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ElGorro for President o7

Good luck!

I am not hearing about warsies. C'mon, EG, let's have some FUN!

Warsies?

You've not heard of wars, affectionately known as warsies!?

For me warsies are Star Wars fans but maybe its the age.

MdR approved. 🙂

If you want it you can join the team as MoHA. For old time sake!

already going to break the law....

No odan, it will obviously be accompanied by a proper and overdue restoration of the rights of one the most dedicated citizens the eNetherlands had seen - even though we may not at all agree on political choices back then. o7

Sadly your negativity with no purpose except bullying everyone away makes it so that we likely will never see it happen indeed 🙁.

By the way, for clarity, MdR is not even 'blacklisted' and therefore theoretically him being in Government as Dutch citizen wouldn't even constitute a trespassing of Law. So stop making up your own reality! He has an 'outstanding debt' due to some mess that was in fact paid off by broersje and after FIVE (!!) years I doubt we still need to be hateful about it.

I'd know, as I personally oversaw the entire aftermath as CP. I think it's about time to clear all doubt about this situation and revoke the stick that you still swing around five years later for no apparent purpose by completely clearing the name of both MdR and Kordak. REGARDLESS of whether or not MdR ever returns.

Indeed conclusion is that mister de Ruyter is most welcome. Odan is just odan.

he isn't a citizen of eNL so can't be in gov.

he has a debt to the state so shouldn't be let into the country.

kordak paid his share immediately and made amends, spijck fled the country and left us with a lot of shit.

In your world that would be the end. I prefer thinking in ways to do something positive for our country. I will find a way when the man wants to join us.

Can we blacklist Odan for being 100% negative all the time? Poisoning the community as well. That would be a fun vote 😃

you are a cm open the debate.

I was being sarcastic there! No point of opening a debate on the matter, since you havent done anything illegal, just being annoying 😃 .

Looking for a way out?

@nutty fox - doing things legal still can get you blacklisted (or "removed citizenship") easily, so why being sarcastic 😛 . I believe the nation would prosper without poisonous snakes 😉 .

I see that some misunderstanding arises in the eDutch community, therefore I like to clear up some things.
For starters I never "fled" the country. Myself and some other people didn't feel happy with the political snakepit that eNL had become, and were searching to settle in another country, preferably a nation that needed our help.
When I was talking on the irc with the, back then, vice CP of eSuid-Afrika he invited my and my group to come help them against a foreseen PTO by the Turkish MU Lazocracy. Unfortenately for eSA odan and Valeyard/Fhaemita then started spreading lies to the eSA government about us being the PTO treat and we were no longer welcome.
Not much later eSuid-Afrika got PTOed by said Turkish MU Lazocracy.
After searching the eworld further we found a welcome home in eNorway, were we helped them against PTO.

Then there is this myth about me having a debt to eNL society. This too is a complete fabrication by odan and his cronies.
The story is totally different, let me tell you as I remember it. In the latter days of Kordak's government were I was eNL's MoFA, we were at war at needed help. There was a MU that offered their help, but when doing so raised their prices. This was ofcourse a complete scam, so we refused to pay them more then was originaly agreed upon. A later eNL government then got scared by this MU and payed the ransom afterall. And, like NoTie112 already stated here, this was fully payed by broersje and as I think to remember Vergilius, his brother.

I hope this clears things up for the eDutch citizens once and forever.

pto:

"PTO'ing a (pro) TWO/ACT country

Postby van Spijck » Tue 24 Sep 2013, 21:34:49
This is imo an option as last resort. Only if we really don't see any more future for eNL. A very good, and not so hard, option would be eSouth-Africa. This country is already PTOed by pro TWO folks, and even has a Polish CP atm. The natives would greet us with open arms, and together we could take over power in Congress, and later the government. I have good friends in both Argetina and Brasil, and us not being a member of any alliance is a blessing with that. I'd judt want to start this debate, because it has already been raised on open forum."


also i never spread any lies to the eSA government. i wasn't the leak.

debt:

"Kordak is individually held accountable for 20.000 CC.
van Spijck is individually held accountable for 20.000 CC."

kordak paid that 20k
you only paid 10k.
state paid 25k
rest was paid for by private citizens indeed.

due to your actions we got temporarily blacklisted in the mercenaries channel(s). after the debt was paid only you remained on that blacklist.

the mu also didn't raise their prices as you say, they communicated upfront what ridiculous prices they wanted.

Odan is more worried about your personal vengeance against you than the fact an actual community has been PTO'd by Turks (hence GldR etc joining us) or eNL's well-being. I can't deny that back half a decade ago I too was politically against you, even running against you in your last eNL race, but it is sad that after five years some hate-campaign is still instigated against someone who is not even part of the eNetherlands.

Just let me tell you that is not the common opinion in the eNetherlands, in fact we've been revisiting many of the 'Forum playing Court'-decisions recently.