[Aries Sun for CP] Metagaming – a deeper insight
Aries Sun
Metagaming is any strategy, action or method used in a game which transcends a prescribed ruleset, uses external factors to affect the game, or goes beyond the supposed limits or environment set by the game.
Another definition refers to the game universe outside of the game itself. In simple terms, it is the use of out-of-game information or resources to affect one's in-game decisions.
The term passed from military use into political parlance to describe events outside conventional bounds that, in fact, play an important role in a game's outcome. For example, the passage of a law might be a game, with the political environment into which that law fits being the metagame. Similarly, a game might be the passing of a law lacking majority support. The group opposing the law, benefiting in the metagame from the passage of said law, encourage their own members to vote in favor of the legislation.
First and foremost, I would like to make clear once and forever that I have as little as possible or not at all interest in the meta-game elements such as eBelgium Forum which has plagued this country since being introduced in-game by whoever introduced it.
The metagame part of the eBelgian society namely eBelgium Forum, or as it is also affectionately termed “circlejerks” in the specialized gaming circles; is essentially reams of 'laws' and 'procedures' that are based not on how the game works, but on how others want their successors to do things or to follow their rules. Such things never last, are regularly lost; and essentially install a never ending cycle of conflict and untrust between other players which don’t want to participate or despise such actions.
The Metagame has many flaws. The Metagame allows the rise of a handful – albeit a relatively large one - of dedicated players to rise to the top and control the flow of information in-game by coordinating voting tactics for certain aspects of the law voting. It also makes it difficult for new players to jump right into the political scene, because they have to get party permissions, try to ingratiate themselves into the close knit communities of the Political Parties / Military Units, and somehow try to make a name for themselves.
Though I won’t insinuate on whether it was a major factor, the Metagame element does also create separation between the various political organizations. Each one has a forum that the others can get, at most, limited access. Or they have IRC channels that require speaking privileges or where operators can easily kick those they don’t wish to talk to. If one political group has a different political opinion or takes traction, then the entire system turns against it.
I was personally falsely accused, prosecuted and banned together with several other respectable players from the eBelgium Forum for long period of time in a farce process organized by some individuals who were pretending to be acting as sort of fake Supreme self-imposed legal entity.
So when some people here are claiming and telling around that none was ever banned from the eBE Forum, don’t believe them simply. It’s not true.
Together with so many other lies and other untruth fabricated over there; those are just few examples of Metagaming fragile practices. This is why I think eBelgium Forum and its functioning can not be perceived as the integral part of this game; and therefore its decisions are null and void.
said Alexis de Tocqueville, was a French political thinker and historian.
Me, I am running again for CP this term, but I am not expecting anything to change or to evolve. Nothing will ever change in eBelgium, because certain people just don't want anything to change as they prefer continuing doing their own stuff by guarding endlessly their positions under the false pretenses; and only being interested in collecting their CP medals instead of doing something constructive.
One eRepublik player once sai
😛”We do not need a meta-game. Unity controlled us for too long by means of the meta-game.”
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Certain parts and excerpts of this article were copied and adapted for use from other articles already published in the eRepublik.
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All Hail Aries Sun The Liberator of eBe
tl;dr more complaining about the "elite" who run the country.
Voting for the change!
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Good luck beer-mate 😉
Actually, you have never said that you were once banned, you always kept claiming that you are banned which is simply untrue. Were you once banned, yes, but that was revoked and the only person currently banned is shadowukcs for creating multi accounts on the forums. Everyone else had their access re-instated.
The separation already exists. We have PM's, party and MU shouts. You can close MU's and keep people of party PM's. Complaining about the separation on the forums while it exists in-game is hypocritical.
Party Permissions are not made by the forum in any way, they are made by the parties which means every party has other means of choosing people. The forum is not responsible if a party decides to have strict requirements, the party and their leaders are, and if the party members vote for said leader, they also vote for said requirements.
Now concerning the medals, I don't care about the medals. As I have said before, I will gladly step down from any positions once you propose vital ideas and plans for eBelgium. We have allies that rely on us doing a good job, being active and there for them when they need us, same as they are there for us for when we need them. We are part of an alliance and have responsibilities there. You can't just run with no ideas, no plans because that will hurt eBelgium in the FA scene and ruin our reputation. If you have concrete ideas and guarantees for our allies, plans for every eBelgian citizen to look at and convince them with these ideas, then I will gladly vote for you if they correlate with my wishes and expectations.
I didn't even want to become president ever again after my first term, it killed my motivation and my energy and made me dislike a few members of our community (not your side that is), yet in September I had no other choice than to step up because our entire community was gone either completely left eBelgium, eDied or went into two-clicking mode. So we were basically left without any leaders willing
to keep eBelgium on the map of relevancy. What would have happened if I hadn't stepped up? Would we still have founded PLUTO, would we still have had great success during the Resource Wars, would we have created a close friendship with Spain? Would we have improved our relations with our neighbors? Probably not.
The situation in eBelgium becomes critical week after week. People begin to leave or to stop. How can we have more activities ? How can we stimulate the people to become true citizens ?
Well, this question remain for months and unfortunately will remain because we don't have a simple answer to that.
I think the main issue we had was the wipe and the general fight between both sides. The wipe was used to get the "bad guys" to leave but the only ones who left was the Old Guard that was active. Many more went into two-clicking. But eRepublik has also been steadily losing people to the point that all communities have suffered. We've been working on a idea to get people active again, but not on a national governmental level but on a smaller level, assemble all those active people and then build up with the base. I hope I can reveal more information soon but right now it is still work in progress.
i thought THE ONLY PERSON EVER BANNED was shadowucks? were u lieing then??!?!?!?
Citizen permission revoked on the forum does not equal banned
I suggest you look at the date of those screenshots... none of them are banned anymore by order of congress almost 2 years ago.
The screenshot shows that the vote was held in may 2013!!!
The decision from back then was nullified over a year after it was done.
None of the names on that old/outdated list are still banned nor have any restrictions upon their forum account.
Well, good luck but if you become CP, what can you do to improve the social activity ? We need it to improve our country.
"Though I won’t insinuate on whether it was a major factor, the Metagame element does also create separation between the various political organizations. Each one has a forum that the others can get, at most, limited access. Or they have IRC channels that require speaking privileges or where operators can easily kick those they don’t wish to talk to. If one political group has a different political opinion or takes traction, then the entire system turns against it."
of course each group has their own way of communicating, do you incorporate all the eBe citizens in every message you send to and get from your fellow political or MU members?
#ebrussels is free for everyone, I can't recall anyone being banned for just being there
Furthermore, just playing by the ruleset of eRepublik is fine, but stop complaining about the actions done by others ingame, they ALL fall within the rules.
i was banned from #brussels. the exactly same bylluboy tacticks as on the phorum
there's some channel moderation, bans are given for excessive spamming of links, swearing, personal attacks, and warnings are given before a ban is placed.
some moderation lol what a doublespeak! removing a person from a channel and preventing from entering again seem quite excessive abuse of warning to me!
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You're right Aries Sun, that's been a problem for a long time.
Too bad those who use these meta-game supports (and enjoy it) keep their mind closed to the simple fact that it is a problem for other players that don't have the same point of vue.
To my opinion, meta-game is fine as long as it is simply a "plus", a bonus, that brings more fun (or more confort in some case) to the players using it... but without making any In-Game difference between players using it and others not using it.
Ex. :
- using forum/IRC with a "eRep friend" to talk about the game in general, about real-life stuff, and so on, for more sociability -> looks definitively fine, that's more fun.
- using forum/IRC with a determined group of people, IF ALL members of the group already use the forum/IRC, in order to talk with more efficiency about a subject -> that's fine, good job, that's more efficiency... as long as you made sure at first that nobody's rejected (and without forcing anybody).
- using forum/IRC for informations, discussions or ressources that could be interesting for the whole population, or for a group containing people not involved in forum/IRC -> EVEN IF you invite everybody to go there, giving the links : some won't go there (no matter their reasons), and that's meta-gaming making an In-Game difference between different players : no, that's not good for the game and its players.
Actually, I don't get how some people (that nevertheless look smart to me) don't realize/accept the problems of meta-gaming. It looks like they just don't want to realize it, just because it doesn't fit to their own feelings and wishes ("it's not a problem for me, so it should not be for anyone").
NB : I definitely lost faith in these players the day when a President was e-Democratically elected, but directly impeach by the Congress just because he said he will not used the meta-game stuff. He didn't even had a chance.
And yes, on the long-run, that made some players going 2-clicks.
impeachment is part of the eRepublik rules of the game, nothing to do with the metagame
exactly! now that's even worse. when u punish player ingame for (not)involving in the metagame activity
Punishing a player using the ingame rules is perfectly legal, you don't need any reason to justify it, a bit like giving or denying CS passes to whomever a CM sees fit.
That's the power of Congress.
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Forza andiamo
Vinceremu
Most of what you talked about happened 3 years ago or even longer.
Until someone can present a better alternative to the versatility of forum/IRC i see no reason to just discard it.
Please tell me the alternative option that replace all functions that forum and IRC holds today?
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