On the MoNC
Day 4,162, 22:34
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by Janty F
Greetings, citizens of Netherlands,
the Congress has been so silent lately - instead of making proposals to help the country (like fixing broken referendum, monetary policies, or solving the dCoC issue, which paralyzed the Congress for quite a while), it has been busy producing MoNC against person, who actually helps the country. Not the first time this happens - MoNCs are becoming a standard in our politics, and only very rarely are they motivated with good reasons (the last one I remember is MoNC against inactive CoC Spir Tus). And with the last rushed MoNC against my person (launched as usual during weekend midnight, because you cannot defend yourself while sleeping), the reasons for this MoNC are simply not correct.They are not based on actual data, which I will provide below, but on personal feelings of certain individuals. They are made up to scare the public and to justify the personal jealousy the author(s) of this proposal feels towards me. And it hurts especially from ElGorro, who has been target of the same methods few weeks ago, and who had to resign, as he was unable to mentally handle the situation.
Either way, the "reasons" for MoNC can be easily debunked, so please bear with me, and read the lines below. It will be long - but I believe justifying something, or proving something, cannot be done on simple feelings, but on the complex facts. And those facts take some time to write down:
Removal of transparency in the finance sheet
- The actual opposite has happened. If you bother to open the sheet (and I would like to ask the requester of this proposal to actually do so):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l24oKF9fW2XJkaXrZhCjQcDm6ix_Tri1ks619l76GoU/edit?usp=sharing
...you will find out a lot of new stuff has been added to increase transparency. Summary Overview Tab, aimed to give our citizens the basic and most important numbers. Graphs have been added to monitor long-term trends. Economic indicators were added to monitor data about both our's and world economy, so we can see the level of inflation or the development of prices on the market. Templates for Programs have been redone from the horror of my predecessor to separate Tabs, that are easy to understand and implement. All can be seen by clicking the link, so I urge Congress Members to do so. Some examples in pictures below:
Lack of recording raw financial data
- Again, untrue. All data recorded by previous MoFs are continued to be recorded, and I even added few other columns to make some calculations easier. Also, with adding comments to each major transaction, I am, once again, improving the quality of the data, because even after many months, people will be able to understand each individual number.
Active trying to undermine procedures in Congress
- How exactly, when I am not even member of Congress? What procedures do you talk about? Is this, because I use your (yes, your) methods, ElGorro? Methods you implemented, like using feed more, or asking questions via articles? How I am the one to blame for something you started? That makes no sense to me...
(Can't post a screenshot or link here, as I am not a member of Congress, so I do not know, what procedures are going on there - besides MoNC, on which I am surprised as much as you)
Not open for feedback of the community
- The 57 (?) comments long public debate made on national feed is the prime example of why is this reason false.
https://www.erepublik.com/en?countryPost=219467
Those 57 comments had feedback in them, and that was, of course, taken into consideration. Mind you - see the language of some people while giving their feedback. As example: First post of ElGorro immediately accusing me of disrespecting Congress and claiming I am "elite" without actual context - is that actual feedback, or just emotional attack? Hard to say. Another example: odan's first post, immediately stating I insult the Congress, and I should seek a new employment as he would throw me out of the door. Continuing below that I am a child (a narrative, which is appearing more and more lately to discredit me). Is that a helpful feedback I should take? Doubt that.
So taking the feedback and separating it from attacks on my person and work has been quite a hard task. And do not be surprised I am annoyed by that, especially if half of the feedback blames me for something my predecessors already established (e.g. the Donation columns), or for something, which I did not even start to work on yet (like spendings of government, as there were no spendings done at the time).
If you read the article about economic indicators, you will see, the feedback has been taken from there as well.
https://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-mof-economic-indicators-of-netherlands-0-2694589
And actually, feedback from the author himself has been taken in the last MoF article:
https://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-mof-how-does-the-budget-work--2694765
Literally anyone can see that those MoNC reasons are false, so I ask - why were those lies produced? Why do you want to manipulate our citizens, do you not believe, they will go out and check, whether or not your reasons are true? Do you believe I will be silent, and let you spread lies about me everywhere? Or do you just hate me so much, you will do anything to destroy me? If you want to know, why I left Cuba - this is it. This is the reason. Because some people went so far with their attacks, it could not be bearable anymore on daily basis. PTOs against my party, actual RL threats of finding me through FB stabbing me with knife, daily articles dedictaed to ridicule me for all the honest work I have done... I ask, are we heading there as well? Because the signs are already there...
What is going on here, is sick. Democratic procedures aimed to remove members of government, who are negligent in their work, are used to satisfy personal needs of few jealous individuals. Instead of solving issues with the law, Congress is debating colors and pancakes. People, who actually want to help this country (be it me, NoTie, Arcanic, Shawtyl0w, Weekstrom, or ElGorro himself) are targeted with attacks, that are more and more personal, and not factual. This MoNC is only one piece of puzzle, one drop in a bucket... but as they say... sometimes, even one drop is enough for things to spill and get out of control. Think about that.
The MoNC has been timed conveniently, as I will not be present much during the next 48 hours (Sunday and all of that, I have RL issues to solve). I assume attacks on my person and my work will continue. I have provided my evidence in the article in great detail. And that is my defense. No need to say more from my side. Anyone can click the links, and see the evidence for themselves. Anyone can see and decide for himself, whether I speak the truth, or not. So... please do so. Make your decisions based on objective reasons and facts, and not based on subjective feelings or political pressure from someone. Only by doing so, your decision will be the correct one.
Janty F
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You are great in presenting only parts of the truth. This article is far from objective.
As mentioned in the debate, I prefer you just appologize and promise to do something with the given feedback.
Atleast I presented evidence, and not feelings, like your MoNC. And seems like you have not read it at all, as feedback was taken into account many times, as my article says.
Either way:
Have you taken feedback, when Congress asked you to to take dCoC?
Have you apologized for using Congress newspapers to attack two other parties and their members?
Have you changed after Bo Kito affair and your own MoNC?
Have you stopped threatening people with your vote, unless they do exactly what you command? (be it this case, DemNL Lawbook, or other things)
In all cases, the answer is: NO. Do not ask something from others, when you yourself are unable to do it. And I cannot apologize to someone, who is stabbing me with the knife, while demanding his apology. Mutual apology from both sides is the only way to go forward, as you yourself are far from innocent 😉 .
Ok. Country feed = bad place for debate. I only read it just now thanks to the link in this article.
Aren't you like dCoC or something? People in positions should be monitoring national feed - and that goes for all citizens, as inportant information is being shared there by both Congress and Government regarding law changes, proposals, TW information, etc.
Dont expert everyone to spend as much time here as you. Weren't you fine for 48 hours?
Well, I am Minister, so I need to be here a bit longer to do my job. And if people have questions, I need to spend additional time replying them. And some people can get really angry, if they do not get reply in matter of hours, as you can probably see. Also, checking feed takes... minute? Certainly less than reading and writing messages or articles, I would say. That's why it was probably introduced - for faster and more direct communication.
But that's not really the purpose here - I am just happy it exists, and I believe on that we agree.
well if you feel that the mood is going to turn sour for you here like it did for you in cuba. perhaps it's time to move on? or take a look in the mirror perhaps? there is a reason the MonC got started and it wasn't some kind of personal attack against you, but due to you not doing the work properly.
Yes, your comment of suggesting I should rather leave my country, is not an attack at all.
Glad you mentioned this though, atleast your agenda is visible to all
what attack? you say you feel like the mood here has turned sour for you and is going to get worse, when it happened to you in cuba you left.
pointing things out is an agenda now...
Yes, so you believe if you push attacks a bit more, I will leave.
Well, sorry to disappoint you, but there is still a lot of work to be done - and I do not run from unfinished work. First job on my agenda - make you actually a good person.
So tell me - what is it you most desire? Maybe I can help with that to make you happy 🙂 .
Janty going Lucifer style
@Mael - I have binged the first season in 2 days, I can even delay next Game of Thrones to watch the second one! I am actually afraid I will turn into Lucifer eventually, as I simply love that character... Detective 😉
It's amazing how much you Dutch are able to discuss about the nothing.
Hey we're a fun bunch of drama queens
What would be a month without a Motion of No Confidence against someone. Other countries do impeachment laws, but we have our own methods 😉 !
Janty F damaged the Cuban economy & strategy. He made deliberate "mistakes".
if you have more info you can share please do. getting a complete picture about his history, given his attitude might just be very important.
blaming and judging other players - while harming their integrity, nationality and respection at the same time - is not the best approach in this game. I believe there are other ways to get things going. I believe this player is in position to answer and analyze his service in Cuba by HIMSELF. I can only state my oppinion. I cannot get involved in intringue because I never did.
Actively smearing Dutch players by requesting subjective information from abroad - that is public ''information'' anyway. Sad. Janty has been here long enough to be judged on his actions here.
All I can say, is this:
https://www.erepublik.com/en/article/for-scarle-2623387
Vergina sun still burns strong. So do traitors, who tried to destroy newborn Cuban alliances by actively helping our enemies:
https://www.erepublik.com/en/article/los-griegos-ganaron-sus-fyromians-ayer-en-una-batalla-pica-por-macedonia--2623331/1/20
@NoTie112 - scarle was actually never involved in Cuban politics, society or military (as you can see by his small TP damage, 1 Congress medal and no actual Telegram account), he was always more interested in his Greek MU and Greek community. I myself would be therefore curious, what kind of information he can offer... because apart from one article and the Macedonian incident, where he did some huge damage against our allies, he was barely visible in our lives, and I doubt even some of his party members actually know him.
Though, he admits to be my Greek fanboy, so I guess that is... good?
https://prnt.sc/nc9gvc
gathering information is smearing now a days..... you really are in deep tonie.
''Gathering information'' as if we are dealing with some unknown CS application. Janty F has been a Dutch citizen for almost a year by now and you are publicly seeking for questionable incriminating stuff of someone you don't know and is questionable himself, instead of getting you way by ordinary procedures that are relevant to Janty's position in the eNetherlands.. oh wait, that MoNC failed.
@ Janty F:
Hmmm, quite interesting that you keep screenshots as a record! If only you didn't cut your logs on our "kind" conversation...It seems you have plenty of time to keep files for other players.
Maybe you wanted to hide some information concerning you.
Everyone interested can check your article named "Christmas sweets giveaway". It's still standing you didn't delete it as you made with my comments when you REPORTED me.
Everyone can check through your articles your opinion for Greece and Greek people.
You don't deserve to have "funs" believe me you modest boy...
I believe my opinion on Greece is well known, and it agrees with general Dutch Foreign Policy. Greece is not our ally, and in fact, we have had troubles with Greeks (amongst others) in our Training War, so that does not give them + points.
"Ι believe my .... points" 😉