Where to? -- Third of the Trilogy.
olivermellors
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$500,000
That seems like a reasonable amount to spend each month on what we need, with a healthy amount set aside as reserve.
We are generating about $300,000 now. From where shall come the balance? Region rentals might be worth looking at. The most likely and stable candidate, however, is:
double the WorkTax rate coupled with motivating every Canadian to get a house and work twice a day in eCanada for market wage. That would do it.
It is painful to give up part of what you already have. In order to persuade players to do this you have to build a common mission and a cohesive sense of community. We need that anyway. The effort, striving and dedication you will expend building a co-operative eCanada may produce a more valuable commodity than the cash which is its by-product. You will be left with a healthy community which incidentally gives generously to a rich treasury.
Hippy talk.
Regards
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If we want to continue being serious about waging war, we have to increase the WT. Tax, by its very definition is unpopular but it can't be avoided. It helps to remember that in this place, at this time, all opportunity also comes from tax.
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I like your idea. As long as Q1 house prices are
What's the motivating factor to get a house and work twice a day for a Canadian employer with a higher work tax? A week or so ago I read your comment about taking two minutes to move south, get a job there, and then move back (thanks for the tip, btw).
1. Raise work tax
2. Buy house to work overtime
3. tbd
4. Pays dividends towards sustaining a healthy community (ie. profit)
Great trilogy: solid build-up, detailed plot, cliffhanger ending pointing towards a sequel.
I agree with Azarius on this one, oliver. I think I'm going to have to call you out on this one.
1) What makes $500,000 a reasonable number for spending. Considering what we do spend our money on, that actually seems like quite a bit. Do we need to spend money on COs at a rate of 4:1 compared to MPPs?
2) If every Canadian bought a Q1 house and worked overtime at market wages every single day we still wouldn't come close to doubling our monthly tax intake. The Work Tax rate is set to 5%. The current highest wage is $43. That makes for $2.15 in taxes, Rounding up, there are 800 Canadians so that would bring us in $1,720 a day or $51,600 over 30. That's 10% of what you want to spend.
3) All those numbers would be subject to change in any hypothetical scenario where everyone's buying a house a week but the most obvious one would be in the price of houses themselves. I imagine they're cheaper elsewhere but in Canada they (which is to say two) are currently selling for $265. The price would have to rise to just $285.95 before the price of a house would equal the extra wages earned by working a market wage job during overtime every day (I took off the Work Tax from the highest wage, which would surely fall if we were to double our labour pool).
4) We wouldn't, in fact, be doubling our labour pool because a lot of players work in communes. But that's actually a good thing. If you work in a country with at least - I want to say 30% but I haven't done the math in a while - housing bonus, you can manufacture at least one Q1 house each week by having your OT work allocated to a combination of quarry and house company. You would just need to make sure that your commune has the necessary infrastructure - I think it was around 35 gold worth per person but I forget where I wrote down my math.
current spending plus reserve.... but how we can make any decisions or have intelligent discussions without good historical information is beyond me. I speculate that of our present 300k tax revenue, 80 percent is from WorkTax such that doubling the rate would give us 200k more. VERY grosso modo. But again the whole point is the need for information before we make decisions. Even more important if we want to mobilize the whole population to work selflessly toward a common goal... Thanks for your useful contribution. Regards
Sorry, I got hung up on the house part of that section in bold (I assume it was like that when I read it earlier). Yes, of course you're right: doubling the work tax ought to have a huge impact on tax revenue.
As for having information in order to make informed decisions this has been a very hard endeavour in the (distant) past. It was next to impossible to isolate factors like you can in real life. Tax revenues might go up because of a war or a tournament - one of several sources of large deposits to the Treasury. Or they might contract because of population declines or changes to the economic module. Things might have calmed down since then, along with the general simplification of the game, only recently interrupted with the reintroduction of houses.
I would propose approaching economic planning from another angle: decide what we want to be spending our money on first and then decide how we want to get there. Are MPPs a priority? How many? How much do we want as a reserve in case of a war? How long do we want to take to get there? What changes are we willing to make in order to ensure it happens?
When we've set our goals we can then create a general budget. x dollars spent on MPPs with y% of the remainder going to COs and x% to savings unless y%+z% fall below a dollars at which time we re-evaluate. Unless we really want to set a specific amount rather than a percent, this type of a template could work as an overarching budget plan.
I'm not sure if we agreed on the same thing but basically the ideas appear to have potential yet I just didn't know what would motivate the average joe to pay more tax and buy Canadian-made homes (obviously, something should be done to help out those companies) . Maybe the government could get it started or maybe another series like this one could get it rolling. I'd expect the main motivator factor would be a some good leadership that can explain why this is a good idea
Good to see a conversation like this going on OM - agree with you generally, not sure about the specifics - eCanadians want stuff going on and to be relevant so we need to generate the revenue to do it
Agreed with raising Work Tax. Disagree with arbitrary numbers. Undecided on value of buying houses.