[Actualidad] Some random opinion from a spanish player about eTurkey (EN/ES)
qablo
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Versión española PINCHAR AQUI
WARNING, TOCHOPOST AHEAD WITHOUT PICS
Looks like everyone is allow to talk about what is or what is not eSpain. Well, then, I can write some things too, why not?
Let´s be clear from the beginning: I AM A CITIZEN, I do not represent eSpanish´s government neither eSpain as a eCountry. If you like to see which is the “Oficial Spanish opinion” check here.
Summary
- Congresist, eGreece, eBulgary and so on
- Durruti and LCI militia
- Cheaters
- Personal opinion about eTurkey and future
Congresist, eGreece, eBulgary and so on
The game is quite absurd, we all know that, so nobody cares about anything anymore. Some of our “failgresist” gave cs to foreign players in exchange for GOLD or weapons because we had all the bonus and many players from abroad come by. Was it a huge mistake? It was, some of us were very clear about that from the beginning, but few cares until it was too late. (Yes, our concept of eCountry in eSpain is not probably as strong as in other places for some of our players, is how we play and the game is also going into an individual thing day by day. So, if you earn money for giving cs, let´s do it /mode stupid congresist ON).
Some of those players got a place in our congress after that, because some party presidents failed hard. Now it seem that everyone is much more focus on try to solve this problem, will see next 25th.
In fact, this actions create a general negative opinion (specially towards Greeks) not seen before for many players here. They came around telling that they will not do anything in politics, but they did, so a lot of players from eSpain really feels betrayed for them.
Personally, since they went away with our enemies, eGreece is an enemy to me. eBulgary and the rest of EDEN/TERRA countries too. As I said before, I hope in the next elections not a single player from outside get into the congress.
Durruti and LCI militia
Durruti is a very old and very good player of eR and a big tank. In this game, we do associate the concept of “eCountry” to some players: Durruti – eSpain, Romper-Algrob – eCroatia, Symex – eMKD, Pedja-T – eSerbia, Ostin – eIndonesia, Nuno – eBrazil and many more. Well, that´s a clear mistake. Day by day eR is turning into an individual game (no global strategy, missions, Mercenary Medal, etc.) leaving apart the team work. We all see this in the battles everyday. So, when I see Pedja-T fighting against eSpain in one battle, does it mean that eSerbia is attacking us? Well, not. Internet is free and you can fuck your GOLD as you like.
Durruti likes to fight against eTurkey, cool. Some others members of LCI (not all) too. It has much more impact because if they kill 20 players they do 400k of damage and they appear on the top. If I go and do the same, would anybody care? For sure not.
Well, I do see Battalgazi or Fernu fighting against us, and they are Turks. I also see players from Lazocraat militia, also see INCI group doing the same since months, but yeah, they do not represent eTurkey I guess.
Did anybody from eTurkey fight for eSpain since we are in ONE? Probably not or very very few. Did anybody from eTurkey fight against eSpain since we are in ONE? Much more, specially in the past war between eArgentina and eSpain, due the mpp rules.
In eSpain, apart from LCI militia, we do have national army, FFAA, we do have other militias and also anonymous players.
Did we fight against eTurkey since we are in ONE? I´m telling you, not. Players don´t travel usually to kill turks. Did we fight for eTurkey? Not either or just few.
Globally, we don´t care about eTurkey, I don´t. I do think is mutual. We do not support eTurkey, but we don´t fight against them, we don´t have an mpp with eGreece or eBulgary, and they have it with our enemies.
Cheating
There are cheaters everywhere, we all know that, it´s part of the game sadly. I remember the “Ru-bots” from eRussia, the mysterious Brazilians or Polish babybooms, the DDos attack cause from someone from eTurkey (admin´s word), and many many more. In eSpain we also had cheaters, probably we do have them now.
But what I do see is a big difference here: in eSpain if you cheat, is for your own personal interest, in other ecountries if you cheat, is mainly a “matter of state”. I have seen few times the National Treasures from some countries been investigated by the admins and GOLD been removed (lately eSerbia and eTurkey for instance), but I´ve never seen something like this in eSpain, because if you cheat, the GOLD is for you personally. It´s how we play around here. Is it selfish? Yeah, sure. But if you risk your account, then all the profit is for you.
So, call eTurkey “cheater´s country” is not true, but is more true than in eSpain (I´d like to add that mostly of the players from eTurkey and eSpain plays clean).
Personal opinion of eTurkey and future
I don´t trust eTurkey and I don´t think they are a good ally for eSpain and probably we are not a good ally for them. Reassons? They don´t care about our enemies at all, just keep focus on their own business. We are far from them in the map and is understandable somehow due our past. But they consider our enemy and ONE´s enemy eArgentina as an ally. We (in eSpain) don´t consider any of the eTurkey´s enemies as a ally (some players likes Greeks, but mostly seems them like enemies) and we do NOT have any mpp with those countries, like they do.
Will this change? This is a game, a white paper, everything can be done, I think we probed it when we create ONE together with some old enemies. But, I don´t see some players changing their way of playing and that is the case.
Is ready eTurkey to give up “something” to join ONE? I wanna see it but i´m not optimistic. They think everyone´s has to adapt to their wishes, ONE and eSpain, and not the other way around and they are showing to the people that they are the victims here, with this “veto” stuff. They threat and they put pressure on some of our allies.
I think they have a clear strategy: kick out eSpain from ONE.
Let´s see what happen, this is eR, but I don´t think this is in the Spanish hands.
Note: All written in this article is my personal opinion, and does not represent anyone else´s.
Nota mental del lector: NO VOTAR, NO SUSCRIBIRSE. ¿Y si el autor es gabacho?
SEIG HEIL PULPO PAUL
Comments
POL POSITION
sub ñax
Votado
Un pequeño resumen en castellano, no estaba de más
No votado
😨 En inglés...
"In this game, we do associate the concept of “eCountry” to some players"
No espero que ciertos países cambien esta forma de pensar. Mucho ultranacionalismo y búsqueda de "héroes"...
Interesante artículo, votado.
It's good to see some articles in English in ur media because after saw 2/3 articles in eGreek; I really started to think ure gently ptoed by eGreeks
Clean this mess then talk about One oriented priorities and for the other countries.
For the rest of the answers; please visit: http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/turkey-spain-one-problem-with-all-details-en-tr-srb-pln--1840474/1/20#comments
+1 qablo
Vaya está no esta en español, pero Votado!
Votado
+2 qablo
Muy coñazo para leerlo en inglés. Cuando esté en castellano lo haré.
Nota mental del votador/suscriptor: Buen artículo.
Buen artículo... supongo que desde ambos lados se verá al otro como el "malo", si bien es cierto que como tu dices Turquía tiene MPP's con enemigos de ONE...
while we ve been erased from efyrom you gave us ehome..thanks and we are gratefull for that . Ofcourse some stupids took over a party but it was just for fun , it wasnt serious pto attempt tho. We ve been good allies in the past and we can be in the future.
¿(EN/ES)?
Publicidad engañosa... :whoknows:...
Totalmente de acuerdo, es usted un jrande, qablo
"while we ve been erased from efyrom you gave us ehome..thanks and we are gratefull for that ." ~ RL Greek.
Ya está en Español Vito, dale al link del ppio
v!
buen artículo y suscribo gran parte de lo que dices.
Hail Greece
Hail Spain
Hail Eden..
Go home Guizas...
Pues sinceramente, viendo cosas así ( http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/fail-spain--1840645/1/20 ) es obvio que no tienen ganas de solucionar nada y que aún un artículo tan comedido y bien escrito como el de qablo va a caer en saco roto. La propaganda ya ha surtido sus efectos, así que es una batalla perdida tratar de hacer ver a los turcos las cosas con mayor perspectiva y sentido común
Te lo voto, está bien, pero ¿por qué los españoles nos "jodemos" y tenemos que ir a un gdoc? 😐
No votado. Cualquier mención a Pluvio en un escrito debería hablar de justicia y correción.
Ahora que lo he leído en castellano: Excelente artículo, y sobretodo opinión más que respetable. A ver si esto se lo leen los turcos y cambian de mentalidad.
voted.
todo bien, hemos luchado a favor de Turquía, siendo yo MoD se envió a las FFAA a luchar allí a petición de ONE ( poco eso si, jijijiji)
SP+MKD kebaps fuera
GRACIAS JUAPETON.... que me paso todo el dia con el ingles y el google traductor y no dan ganas xDD
Ahora ya lo lei en castellano, y coincido con todo lo dicho.
"In eSpain, apart from LCI militia"
Que cansinos con decir que el LCI es parte de españa. Que yo sepa, en el LCI somos pro-one.
Uno de los motivos que estemos entre España y Polonia es que la mayoria de nosotros vivimos RL en estos paises y por eso quizás tengamos más apego a estos 🙂
El resto perfecto 🙂 Aquí cada uno va a su bola gracias a los admin, al final joderan lo bonito que tenia esto en la v1...
Es verdad lo k dice jesser, las ffaa fuimos a turquia a luchar en un par de rw´s.
v
VOTADO.
es culpa de ellos que el kebab sea tan indigesto...
Votado, sin duda bastante mas realista que otras versiones de este conflicto.
Y los españoles hemos luchado muchas mas veces por turquia de lo que lo han hecho ellos por nosotros.
/me likes it
Por fin me entero de algo!!!!!!!!!!
Buen análisis, pero propaganda al fin...
:CAFE:
Gracias por publicarlo en español, como domino el idioma!!
Pobre turcos..., no saben respetar la opinión personal de cada jugador individual...
¿ qué es peor un eargentino o un eturco ?
we are not against all of your nation but angeldav. he is commander of ONE and his personal opinion means ONE opinion so the conflict starts from that. ONE has to take the commander position from him.
Did you see the Turkish MoFA deals million against eSpain? We saw yours at opposite side.
no votado no suscrito, el autor es gabacho y no sabe escribir en castellano
+3 Qablo
Turquia debe decidir.!
Hail Spain
Hail One.!
@ qablo
As far as I understand from your comments on other articles and this article, I can say that you are unbiased and a logical player.
ONE is a new alliance and it has new enemies. Spain is fighting against Brasil,even though they were our old ally and we signed MPP with you before you attacked them, and USA. We are willing to support you against these 2 enemies. However, you really don't respect our priorities and interest in the alliance. We just asked you not to fight directly against Argentina and indirectly with Peru. It was our only request from Spain and other allies, but it was ignored.
Spain is not in a position to make all the rules and decide every strategy in the alliance.
As you can see, our enemies are very content with our interior problems. We can only solve this problem if Spain revises its policy on Argentina, at least you should do this for the sake of Turkey.
@karagouz: All our allies in ONE are allies of ePeru, eParaguay, eVenezuela, eMexico, eNew Zeland, and those countries are also a friends of ONE and they help us a lot when they can. Also we do help them when we can.
So, if eBrazil or eArgetina attacks them, they are also attacking a friend of ONE, like when somebody attack eIndonesia I guess, or eTurkey.
So, first of all, not eTurkey not eIndonesia are in the position of demand anything from ONE because you are not member of the alliance. You can have your opinion and your wishes, and I´m sure they are listened.
I want to give you other point of view about your last sentence:
"We can only solve this problem if Spain revises its policy on Argentina"
Why don´t eTurkey or eIndonesia revises this policy with eArgentina and not us? The opinion of ONE is clear, we do fight against eArgetina in many fronts.
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