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The citizenship options of the eUK

Dia 1,825, 09:34 Publicado em United Kingdom Reino Unido por Count Drakula

Hello fellow eUKers!

I recently thought that I should start writing more articles (the last one I did was 80 odd days ago and the one before that was 100 days ago) and that the topic should be something that all eUKers could relate to. For this article I’ll be talking about the way that citizenship is handled. There are numerous ways that have been discussed but the argument boils down to Minister vs Committee. Both ways have advantages and there are a few different ways to organise a committee (the main two ways would be PP committee and congress committee). To fairly judge the different approaches we have 4 criteria:

1 - It must stop PTOs from occurring.

2 - It must allow legitimate citizenship requests to the eUK.

3 - It must be enforceable, to some degree (we can’t really get rogue congress members to resign can we?).

4 - It must be reasonably quick to decide on whether or not the citizen is accepted.

For those of you who don’t believe that we need a form of regulation on citizenship requests just have a look at what is happening across the atlantic:

To shorten a fairly long story: the USA is getting PTO’d by various different groups that are all in the American Freedom Party which currently controls 32% of congress. Within a few months they could control more than half if they keep expanding, which would be very bad for America :3

The Minister Option:

This was the option we used for several months with Iain Keers looking after our citizenship requests, however he recently resigned from the post leaving the eUK with the ability to choose how it wants its citizenship sorted. The main pros of a ministerial role sorting out citizenship is that it is very quick, as there is only 1 person involved rather than 6+ in a committee (though it does depend on the minister ofc), and it would definitely stop PTO attempts. The main faults to a minister is that it’s not as enforceable as the other options where the citizens who are sorting citizenship applications are directly democratically elected and that some citizens would consider it biased (unless the minister in question was apolitical and thus had no reason to be biased but even then it doesn’t include the opinions of congress or PPs).

The PP Committee Option:

The first of the committee options involves the 5 PPs working together to look at citizenship requests. This is the only option of the three that hasn’t so far been implemented (possibly due to the different options of different PPs/parties on the way that citizenship should be handled). The pros of a PP committee would be that it is more enforceable than the others (as PPs can choose not to re-elect congress members that don’t follow the rules) and that PPs are usually active individuals it would be done quickly. However, there may be some bias by PPs who see that citizens want to move and join their party and there are some parties that do not agree with a formal way of citizenship (UKPP policy is that the congress member should make their own decision and as such they may not want to be involved in a PP committee).

Goku Jones wrote an article you can find here

The Congress Committee Option:

The last option of the three involves members of congress itself forming a committee to look at citizenship requests. History paints an unusual picture of congress committees, the last congress committee was terribly slow but the one before that worked well. As such it is all down to whomever congress decides upon to have as the committee members as to how well the committee works. The benefits of this type is that are will combat PTOs and would be less prone to bias than PPs (I would hope that people run for congress to better the eUK rather than their own party/ their own pocket). The costs of it however are that they don’t have the same ingame ability as PPs to block congress from running and that the larger it is the slower that it would become.

Iain Keers wrote an article you can find here

Over the next few days I’ll be sending off a PM about this issue and getting feedback from the eUK and including it in my next article. I don’t exactly know what to write about for the next article, feel free to suggest future topics in the comments or PM me with ideas/feedback about this article.

vice Country President

Count Drakula


Emergy Maxfell
Emergy Maxfell Dia 1,825, 09:37


Kamoris KSC
Kamoris KSC Dia 1,825, 09:45


Lord Lewis Cromwell
Lord Lewis Cromwell Dia 1,825, 09:59

Option 4: Expand the Minister option to include a staff of willing and capable people like every other ministry, each with the ability to sanction applications as "safe" for national safety therefore fulfilling duties and having work done by those willing and able to do it rather than those voted into positions due to PP favour and popularity.

Send love to Plato
Send love to Plato Dia 1,825, 10:44

Brilliant and informative article. Pleasure to read and to vote for O7

lancer450 Dia 1,825, 12:52


Niemand Dia 1,825, 14:00


Sir Humphrey Appleby
Sir Humphrey Appleby Dia 1,825, 17:03


Samoss The Great
Samoss The Great Dia 1,826, 02:58


Topher Fair
Topher Fair Dia 1,826, 05:59

I don't want a congress member commitee, why did you include me under that!? I clearly in my article suggest the PP commitee...

jamesw Dia 1,826, 07:15

Option 5: jamesw will do it

Mr Woldy
Mr Woldy Dia 1,826, 08:14


Danie Fox
Danie Fox Dia 1,826, 09:23

Option 3 passed with a solid majority on the forums, backed by at least half of the elected representatives of each party.

Topher Fair
Topher Fair Dia 1,826, 09:26

You'd love to force that on us all but fortunatly we are not bound to follow it. Personal choice.

Danie Fox
Danie Fox Dia 1,826, 09:34

You can choose to ignore the advice of the cross-party committee if you decide you know better, even if it was backed by 4 of the 5 NE congressmen that voted (1 abstained).

WayneKerr Dia 1,826, 11:38

If congress have chosen how to issue passes then someone needs to take charge of the committee, and start enforcing it.

Danie Fox
Danie Fox Dia 1,826, 13:12

It is enforced by PPs, if they decide they know better than congress there is nothing we can do.

WayneKerr Dia 1,826, 14:31

'The Committee will have six members elected by congress. All members of the committee must be elected congress members themselves. The exception to this is if the UK elects less than twenty congress members, in which case membership is open to all UK citizens.'

This 'passed' days ago, and I'm assuming it is endorsed by the current gov? Yet no action regarding it has been taken yet. Why is that Daine Fox?

Danie Fox
Danie Fox Dia 1,827, 23:34

Goku said he will not punish those who go against it and let in people deemed PTOers by congress. As such we have no way of enforcing the system that congress passed, as it relied on the PPs promising not to reselect those who let in PTOers as its only ingame punishment. He demands to be on any committee that is set up, and it looks like he is going to get what he wants.

Grampa Alfagrem
Grampa Alfagrem Dia 1,827, 23:58

UKPP policy also allows for anyone elected to congress to ignore dictates from off-site (or indeed follow them) without punishment. choice.

Grampa Alfagrem
Grampa Alfagrem Dia 1,827, 23:59

and if they wish to be on the comitee and get selected then they do so privatly and not as a representative of the party.

Same as Minister BigAnt is BigAnt and not BigAnt of the UKPP.

Topher Fair
Topher Fair Dia 1,827, 08:50

4 New Era congressmen voting for is 40% of our congressmen. Stop calling that a majoprity of our congressmen Danie!

I am not demanding to be part of a committee on individual applicants because that isn't what I want. The PPs all got together on Saturday and decided what to do, and it wasn't a committee with me on it.

Nebojsa M. Petrovic
Nebojsa M. Petrovic Dia 1,828, 04:38

WayneKerr its becouse we have not elected new congress..
This will apply after 25th of this month as i have understood...

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