Incompetence in Government and Congress.
Eamonn DeValera
Ok, so, I got elected to Congress on the 25th…..happy days I thought, finally get to propose my rules/guidelines document which I worked my ass of to complete. And by the way, which several others (the people in congress with brain cells) contributed to for over 10 days.
I also, published the original version of this document and the final version in two previous articles which got an excellent response from both Congress members and regular eIrish citizens, so, naturally I assumed it was widely accepted because the legislation was lying for days in the Dail while I was awaiting the Congress elections, and remained untouched by anyone during that period. So, I presumed that everyone in congress was fine with it.
So, I get elected on the 25th and propose the legislation on the 27th which gave the incoming congress members two days to read the legislation, which was in the Public Dail, so everyone could see it, and add their opinions to it. But, not one of them did, so I assumed everyone was jolly well fine with it. Naturally, my next step was to propose it, which I did and it got off to a fine start….those who contributed to it, voted Yes. But then, all of a sudden, I get comments like the following;
“ Nil/No on the basis that it will make things more complicated”
Ridiculous, Read the bloody thing, its quite simple and to the point and clearly defines everything which needs to be defined.
“tbh, i think we need to conference this a bit more. It has no provisions for a military chain of command, etc. I'm sure it wouldn't take too long to hammer something out.”
WHAT!! What has military chain of command got to do with the bloody constitution, that’s an entirely separate issue, one which work has begun on already as you will see in Mr. Dash Riprocks article here: Extreme makeover IDF edition.
“isn't BB right, wouldn't things be more complicated then?”
No, he isn’t but I can see your clearly just a sheep following your leader.
“I honestly can't see how this will fix anything. The problem in Ireland is not the constitution it is the over use of and disunity in the Dáil which is not mentioned in the constitution or your guidelines.”
Eh, HELLO! Did you read my previous articles detailing the whole point of this proposal?? Obviously not.
Here you go, catch up CONGRESSMAN.
My Newspaper.
“I don't personally think it's going to make things any more efficient. The problem doesn't lie in the constitution, IMO. So, it has to be níl/no for me.”
Oh! Really!? Where, in your expert opinion does the problem lie then?
“This is a huge change for Ireland, as such, each section should be broken down and discussed, I know for a fact that there are several good ideas posted on other forum threads that would work great in this.”
Each section! Are you insane? Im not letting my proposal become awash with legality and highly complicated and unnecessary additional legislation. This coming from a man who failed to contribute a single thing to the proposal in the 10+ days it was being discussed.
“there are good ideas in the constitution and of course some bad. I believe instead of a scrapping of the whole thing we should go through it make some changes and write it in a place like google docs, so it may be edited when necessary and read in its entirety by any citizen.”
Google docs!! More amendments to an already over complicated and frighteningly restraining and useless constitution. NOOB! Catch up on my previous articles CONGRESSMAN.
“All well and good attacking people who vote 'no' but do bear in mind there are also members of Congress here for the first time... and although they are not experienced in Congress, that does not make them stupid or less able to contribute.”
Well then why do they vote NO, without reading the history of the proposal and reading my previous articles which I have linked to on the original discussion of the proposal rather than leaving stupid comments which only insults their own “intelligence”.
That is the sort of rubbish that goes on in Congress ladies and gentlemen of eIreland. I am back here less than a month and I can tell you, eIreland has never in my 11 months here, been as bad as this. It is a disgrace in every single way.
We have an incompetent President whom I proposed we impeach once and for all after making an enormous cock up of the State organisations which will subsequently result in the loss of at least 2 companies, weapons I think they are, yet it seems by the voting that we too have 19 incompetent Congress men and women and more to follow no doubt.
So, where do we go from here eh?
I certainly don't know.
I have tried my best, worked my ass off and been shot down as per usual.
eIrelanders, all of you who are not in congress, those of you who have to sit by and watch this crap escalate everyday, please, PM me with your suggestions and I'll have a chat with ya'll about them.
I truly believe at this stage that Congress and the Government is incapable of sorting this mess out and that our future lies in your hands, you the citizens of eIreland.
I look forward to chatting to you. 🙂
Cheers,
~BoS
Bryan O'Shea
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Voted. Good article bro.
I guess you are pretty sore...
A perfect example of why some things in Ireland arent going so well, insted of working with others Bryan shows that he will just throw his toys out the pram when he cant get his own way.
Impeachment solves nothing, helping your fellow TDs resolve the issues, rather than attempting to cause drama, doesnt help.
"A perfect example of why some things in Ireland arent going so well, insted of working with others Bryan shows that he will just throw his toys out the pram when he cant get his own way.
Impeachment solves nothing, helping your fellow TDs resolve the issues, rather than attempting to cause drama, doesnt help."
Dont flatter yourself snake, I never set out to get my own way, after all this proposal was written by me but contributed to by many, your not one of them though.
are you calling congressmen dissagreeing with you stupid?!
"are you calling congressmen dissagreeing with you stupid?!"
Certainly not. I am merely saying that it was wrong of certain congressman to vote NO without researching the Proposal first.
I ran for Congress with the promise I wouldn't support a barebones Consitution because off site legislation is half the fun of living in Ireland. I was simply delivering on a promise.
However, I do agree with you about the current president and I did support your move for impeachment. It may be too late in the term to have any true effect, but at least we can send a message that this sort of disorganization cannot be tolerated.
Dear god why did I accept your citizenship application?
Bryan it's stubborn people like you that are the problem with this country. Don't get your proposal passed so shout and pick on everyone who voted no. Personally i voted no because what we have works and if your proposal was to pass it would be just a canvas to be built upon because there'll be bits and pieces people think you left out. We can simply stay with what we have and not add more legislation. It works, it's there.
Cop on. Don't throw a fit when something you propose is rejected.
"Bryan it's stubborn people like you that are the problem with this country. Don't get your proposal passed so shout and pick on everyone who voted no. Personally i voted no because what we have works and if your proposal was to pass it would be just a canvas to be built upon because there'll be bits and pieces people think you left out. We can simply stay with what we have and not add more legislation. It works, it's there.
Cop on. Don't throw a fit when something you propose is rejected."
Excuse me?
How can anyone in their right mind say that what we have works??
And to think you said it in puclic...I wouldnt be surprised it your were assassinated soon.
On a more serious tone, Its widely accepted that what we have DOES NOT work. and I am pissed off because certain people who vote no did so without even reading and researching the proposal.
entertaining, if somewhat overly agressive, article 🙂
Thank you, as always sean. I do look forward to your comments. I never know what your reaction will be. 🙂
I'm speechless! :0
I had no idea this sort of madness was going on.
To be frank, Bryan has been overdramatic in my opinion at times. However, on this occasion I feel he is spot on! (apart from impeaching JohnSmith 2K9).
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/me pats Bryan O'Shea on the head
"😢apart from impeaching JohnSmith 2K9)."
IFP to the end John. 😛
i do support the idea of making the constitution simpler, but as Kiemar said, eIreland is one of a kind because of its non-game rules 😉
Yes, unfotunately is the Non-game rules which are screwing us.
Hehe, I love how when this administration is in charge it is being too hasty to Impeach.
But when dubh is BAM! He gets impeached TWICE.
Making a point, although I feel there is no point impeaching now with this little time left.
Lets just let this teach us a lesson. Elect better leaders...
Not even gonna bother comment....oh wait
Your frustration certainly comes through there Bryan but I know where you're coming from. I thought we were all behind a simplification of the legislation and for those of you who think "that's half the fun" of being in Ireland, I strongly disagree - it clouds the focus of the game.
While you 'legislators' are stuck in the forums arguing over the wording of article 3, point 4, sub-paragraph 9, the rest of the e-World are out on the battlefield gettin' their jollies, running business empires, negotiating alliances and making this place a more exciting place to be.
Newsflash: Legislation is NOT exciting.
What part of "politics" didn't you understand when you wanted to be involed? LOL
Oh, and I liked the angry "baby" picture - very appropriate 🙂
+1 for H.S Thompson's comment. He clearly gets it!
Bryan: Obviously there are some things wrong with eIreland. We all know...everyone seems to be shouting it at us these days.
But this article and others like it are not the way to handle things. These people are offering ideas and room for discussion. They could have just as easily said "Nil/No" and left it at that.
You can't criticize people who are trying to get involved and participate for eIreland.
I suggest that you take these discrepancies into account and start a Dail discussion where everyone can contribute to working them out.
Do these so-called "19 incompetent congressmen" happen to be the ones who disagree with you?
I understand your frustration (a bit), but this isn't the way to go about it.
"Bryan: Obviously there are some things wrong with eIreland. We all know...everyone seems to be shouting it at us these days.
But this article and others like it are not the way to handle things. These people are offering ideas and room for discussion. They could have just as easily said "Nil/No" and left it at that.
You can't criticize people who are trying to get involved and participate for eIreland.
I suggest that you take these discrepancies into account and start a Dail discussion where everyone can contribute to working them out.
Do these so-called "19 incompetent congressmen" happen to be the ones who disagree with you?
I understand your frustration (a bit), but this isn't the way to go about it."
Again I understand what you are saying Princess, but my point is that all congressmen women who voted NO, never contributed anything to the original discussion and also, judging by their reasons for voting no, had no clue what this was about, hence, you do your homework before voting no to something of this importance.
hmmmm
Legislation is NOT exciting. +1
"A perfect example of why some things in Ireland arent going so well, insted of working with others Bryan shows that he will just throw his toys out the pram when he cant get his own way.
Impeachment solves nothing, helping your fellow TDs resolve the issues, rather than attempting to cause drama, doesnt help. "
No matter how much you dislike that 😁 it is very true.
I do agree the Dáil is full of Incompetence and Stupidity and it's gotten considerably worse every month since January. We need totally new active blood in the Dáil who will not follow others like sheep.
^ And who won't vote 'yes' on every article and expect the same return on their contributions. It's often not a personal attack if somebody disagrees, and they may well have done their research.
How? please tell us. How are they screwing us? The only problem i can see is faulty people in government. Please tell me what the constitution we currently have has done that is not working and is scrwing up our country?....
I knew exactly what the proposal was, and I voted No because it was crazy to erase the whole constitution without going through each part and working through it.
Don't call us incompetent, or you'll find yourself on the side of the road somewhere, abandoned, because if you piss off enough of us, we're just going to vote no on all of your proposals.
Well, that is childish, very childish.
Im not in congress, so what do you expect 😎
No, really some congressman are just such idiots
they dont follow any discussion but when there is a vote they suddenly do have an opinion, if that isnt just for the statistics
inb4 ragequit...