Blame It On The New Rules
St Krems
Allow me to layout two basic foundations for the rest of this article. One is simply empirical and can not be argued with, the other is a normative statement in the fact that it can not be tested or shown through figures but I’ll try to prove it anyway.
The first foundation is that EDEN is a stronger alliance, in terms so of GOLD, population and military damage, then Phoenix. This is a fact that can be checked through a number of means, though I recommend reading Bogdan_L’s paper From The Shelf.
The second foundation is that Phoenix HQ is smarter then EDEN HQ. This obviously can not be proven through figures but I need only point to the poor communication that lead to the USA/EDEN stand off several months ago, the poor planning that lead to Croatia getting wiped, the failed Croatia to Asia land bridge and I need only simply mention the words World In Flames to really drive home my point. Opposed to this we see the detailed and long term planning that lead to Serbia getting into Malaysia, the South African PTO and the long term propaganda effort that cost the USA their High Iron region.
For a very long time these two powers have faced off against each other, their different strengths adding to the dynamics of the struggle and making the game enjoyable for everyone. Neither side ever managed to gain the definitive upper hand and they were fairly even matched.
With the introduction of the new MPP rules, we have seen a massive shift in the balance of power. The brute force of EDEN can now be brought to bear with very little effort at strategy and we have seen the recent effects of this in Europe where Phoenix is on the run on most fronts. The new MPP rules have shifted the balance of the game away from rewarding good strategy and long term planning to rewarding brute force and money and it is killing Phoenix.
At least, that’s what is being said by any Phoenix leader you speak to these days.
Personally, I don’t completely buy this. A fact that is conveniently overlooked most of the time by these people who have been ‘hard done by’ is that Phoenix had lost some of their most important regions (Lion King and all of Western Russia) before the new MPP rules were implemented.
The growing importance of Time Zones in battles, both in V2 and V1.5, are usually ignored but they are one of the key shapers of foreign policy at the moment. Firstly, time zones decide battles. We saw this in Russia and we saw it again in LK. Phoenix woefully ignored this prior to, and right after the implementation of, V2 and are paying the price for that now while EDEN anticipated this and began to build USA, China and Canada relations to the point where they are unrecognisable from relations prior to the war module change. The second effect of this has been, again, the relations. EDEN have become dependant on China and the USA in most of their battle plans and this has naturally resulted in stronger relations with the two countries. The growing support for EDEN in the USA and China’s growing strength has resulted in larger damage outputs from both countries and this has been enough to tip the scale in most battles now.
In summary, yes the new MPP rules do favour EDEN’s brute force and yes they undermine the concept of strategy but Phoenix was in decline well before they were introduced due to a variety of other factors such as the conquest of timezone warfare, the concentration of power and the tide of wars. But go ahead Phoenix, blame it on the new rules.
Yours in niggardliness,
St Krems
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blame it on the credit cards
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blame it on the al
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alcohol baby
brobama?
agreed, they were in decline, serbia and hungary were on the rise but the indos are dead, iranians also
krems as much as i dont like you i like your thoughts and your articles vote and sub ❤
phx start winning v1 - admins make v2
phx start winning v2 - admins make ??
when phx start winning ?? - admins will make ??2
Yes Jazar, admins spent god knows how much money IRL on developing and coding an entirely new module for the game just because they are that biased.
Grow up.
Krems is right, as usual.
A++
I liked it.
Krems is the Best Muahahahaha
well written krems! voted
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Good article Kremzie.
Honestly the only thing I find odd is that admins always tried to balance eWorld. Always. And now they've done exactly the opposite. Result? A 1 sided-eWorld. Congratulations!
PS: Yes, they should remove every single "Strategy" word that is on the Homepage and Wiki. After all, it doesn't matter anymore.
It is annoying that strategy now consists of HOLY NIG GET A BUNCH OF MPPS AMIRITES GUYS!
Phoenix, you could also complain about the nonexistant advantage of credit cards. Max is in Pakistan, and Frost is somewhere.
There's strategy now?
I thought all I had to do is click a button in one of the 15 battles available on my homepage.
One sided world?
Does nobody understand that if (or when) Phoenix is "wiped", that EDEN and Brolliance will begin squabbling, thus making another series of epic mega-alliance battles? There is no such thing as a one-sided world in eRepublik. Not for long, anyway...
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Not at all Gagah, the biggest screw up I listed for EDEN was World in Flames. You can say that them taking more risks is not neccessarily bad strategy but I'd disagree with you. Again, take world in flames. I'm not trying to make a case for PHX HQ being smarter then EDEN HQ, I gave a breif overview for people not too involved in the two alliances but the main gist of my article was below that. That was simply one of the foundations of the article that you can either accept or not accept and my conclusions are based upon it. If you disagree with that foundation to such an extent as to disregard my to conclusions then that's your right but please try to focus your comments on what the article is actually aimed at.
>The first foundation is that EDEN is a stronger alliance, in terms so of GOLD, population and military damage, then Phoenix.
>The second foundation is that Phoenix HQ is smarter then EDEN HQ.
I disagree with both foundations. PHOENIX, in terms of population and military damage, has been consistently better than EDEN until the V2 exodus. In last PHX official report they were even admitting they were bigger and had more numbers. In gold both alliances were equal. When WW3 started, EDEN was way weaker than PHOENIX in all terms.
Also, while the landbridge to Asia and the World in Flames backfired (although world in flames did not end in a huge PHX victory), PHX leadership also had major blunders, like their first conquest of Croatia (when Serbia and Hungary monthly wasted thousands of golds into attacking NW and slavonia), the fact that Hungary lost HelloKitty in a unsupervised RW, or the EMC kamikaze tactics, which made EDEN win a lot of battles without losing gold. While PEACE HQ was smarter than ATLANTIS one, I for once doubt PHX was smarter than EDEN, specially as it is just those last month when EDEN has started to be stronger than PHX in terms of population and raw gold production. (check bogdan or dsokre older stats if you don't trust me)
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Under the old rules, the weaker alliance could hide behid MPPs until it became stronger. PEACE did that, EDEN did that.
With the new rules, the alliance that is stronger at the moment will be wiped out in 1 week. Actually EDEN is showing a big clumsiness at the moment for dragging it out so long.
While I admit EDEN is stronger then Phoenix, and surely deserves congratulations because of this, the current campaign has nothing to do with strategy. It is simply brute force.
The only good thing is that if the game does not get shut down in 1-2 months like I hear, it sets an end to the current alliances. EDEN will crumble in less then 2 weeks after Phoenix is gone.
sure is alot of reading the first 2 paragraphs then jumping to comments up in here.
Krems, Although your foundations are arguable, at this point in time they seem accurate, and your conclusions based on that fact are quite well said.
I say bring back old MPP rules and retreat, and enjoy the tactics again.
One of the best parts of this game was seeing PHX come up with a new and intresting plan and going "Damn, thats clever, How to counter that?"
Yes, you are right that we are not completly smarter than EDEN. But we had a LOT of strategicly better planed actions.
And you can't deny EDEN relying mostly on gold and outtanking us like in all that fuss about RA, BaB in Poland.
Do you know how many times did you attacked LK and HK eather trough RW or direct attack from China(more than 10 times for sure)? Not to mention 5-6 attacks on Vojvodina alone without ES, 2 attacks on CH. Phoenix only attacked 3 Polish regions with about 3k-3.5k players each, and ofcourse BaB and RA.
Sum all this up and tell me honestly who spent more gold that time.
the same admins saved hungry 3x in CH.
i didn't see you bitch about that then.
if hungry would have fallen as it should have, no lionking would have ever been possible.
It doesn't matter if you're right or not. Winning just by brute force is not so fun. I like chess and weiki (baduk/go), but I don't like weight-lifting. It's that simple. I will not be gelous on your victory (what takes so long?), and I will not feel myself ashamed for losing.
ITA: people try to argue with conclusions even though there are no numbers to back it.
in other words, haters hatin'
you overlooked something...not the mpp rule,but unlimited health packs.LK was lost because the number of people are far outwayed by individuals with lots of gold.in that battle lk777 alone tanked 1 milion.who has more gold,wins,that's it.that's the problem and that is what is killing the game
whoever says there is no strategy is wrong...because with the magic of unlimited wellness packs you have to organise donations,collect gold from other players,use a plastic card to make gold and after all this you have to organise the task of sending all the collected gold to one player and win the battle.strategy,ya
FavoUr.
I like playing poker, I liked it when eRep had strategy. Nowadays eRep is a slot machine and I am just pushing the fight button.
Though the battle hero jackpots are paying out more frequently.
thats why the v2 millitary module was the best idea till now in erep history
I still dont understand why they removed it. that module was for brain training . cmon we are human beings after all , why a game with clicks only and not one which trains brains ?
Sure is a lot of tl;dr here.
>If you disagree with that foundation to such an extent as to disregard my to conclusions then that's your right but please try to focus your comments on what the article is actually aimed at.
Just a small piece of advice: if one disagrees with the claims you make as your foundation, then your conclusion is basically defunct. Therefore, securing your foundation would be of primary importance to the writer.
>if one disagrees with the claims you make.
your opinion of affairs that took place while you were afk do not interest me in the slightest.
There's a more thought out response that you could have responded to, also you failed to address the meat of the issue in my comment. Not an uncommon problem for you.
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