{RSU} Give a man an inch, they take a mile
Revolutionary Socialist Union
Greetings eAustralia,
I know the RSU printing press has been quiet lately, but that was a decision I had made, to ensure that the RSU would not be accused of effecting government. We all remember the "Treachery" article from the ADP CP JackTrout a while ago (even if it was eventually edited because of it baseless arguments and clear lies).
However due to the slack afforded to the government and some of it's ministers, the RSU printing presses has been fired up again, to address some pressing concerns that are going on.
First of all, many in the RSU were surprise by the announcement and support for a Congress member Stojke aka Legendary Viking Dragon who was appointed the ASIO head. This is even after he openly admitted that he let a 'friend' into the country for the sum of 9,500cc.
But shortly into this new term, after the current CP Gudz proposed him as the head of ASIO (he was the head last term, with Guag as his 2IC), he apparently went rogue introduce one law, changed his name, introduce a second law and then quit congress.
Has he given up on his life in eAustralia? has his account been hacked? has he sold his account or has a baby sitter? I am guessing none of it because he is from the APP, one of the parties who have always been on the forefront of multi hunting and shaming other parties.
And more importantly, how long has the account been rogue?
While we are on the subject of immigration, we all remember the ASIO agreement that was signed by some of the top 5 parties. Some refused to sign it due to believing it to be corrupt and 'stacked'. These parties were privately and publicly shamed, but they stood firm.
Now we see an author and a signatory to the ASIO agreement, clearly breaking the rules. This raises the point of the agreement all together. How is eAustralia meant to try an abide by an agreement, when players who created it and signed it, refuse to follow it when it suits their needs?
This whole point was something that was brought up by the RSU. when the discussions were held. But we were told ASIO works. Even with this re-assurance, the RSU. publicly refused to sign it, since we knew it could not be enforced and we knew certain parties will break it when it suits. These 'unwritten laws', these 'laws for some, but not others', need to be sorted out sooner then later.
The RSU fully supports immigration reform, we fully support checks and balances for immigration, but we also believe it should be done clearly and followed by those who agree with it. We hope the eAustralian government, either finds out why one of the signatories broke the agreement, or what can be done to have it amended. But until that time, the RSU. will still not support it and instead we will follow our own in-house immigration policy (and for the record, you cant buy CS, well the true members of the RSU. will not accept money for CS).
While this might be a bit early, maybe it has been mis-understood due to the international aspect of this game, but a worrying trend is occurring in eAustralia. We already have the Australian
Even if it is early, this is something that needs to be addressed and kept an eye on. Granted, each party is run for it's members, what they do is what they want, but when it comes to the point of congress seats and effecting the law proposals (see above for the laws made by a APP congress member for an example) it could lead to a government in disarray or a potential PTO of eAustralia.
Well that will be all for today, but as always, if you have any questions, please feel free to ask them. The RSU. printing presses are now fully oiled up and working, so expect more articles soon (if T.A.X.S.I.R.A. or any other PP lets me....).
Also the RSU will continue to try and work together with the current elected government. Even if there is congressional abuse of power, this is not RL Brazil, we will not be proposing an impeachment.
Rusty D
PP of the RSU.
Comments
Give a man an inch, they will take a mile:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-rsu-give-a-man-an-inch-they-take-a-mile-2597478/1/20
Give a woman an inch, and she will be disappointed.
Unless the inch contains your credit card number, then she will be happy
This gal used to stay at my place. I was fixing something and she was pissy because we weren't doing what she wanted. Picking up my measuring tape she pulled out about 2 inches and tossed it at me saying "That's not six inches!". Without hesitation I threw a roll of tape that had a 3 inch hole in the center and said "That ain't a tight fit either.".
I went for a drive.
She was gone when I came back.
I just woke up, read that and have to say 'thank you for making my day' I will be laughing all day today.
Rusty, the plan you were referring to is a hybrid/prototype of a policy which I want to implement if I am able to become eCP within the next few months. The MAJORITY of the plan is the get new people (i.e. Newly born or immigrated eCitizens) to come to eAustralia and become a active citizen. Now there is a section for current citizens to gain some reward but that is a sweetener for current members to become active participants. You may consider it "Vote Buying", but I just want to make the APP the power that I remember it to be.
I am happy to debate once I'm confirmed APP PP if you want, and we can post the transcript on a third party paper (i.e Non mine, yours, APP or RSU related.)
Not mine, sorry
It is not about debating it (sorry to me that word is more like arguing, I prefer to think of it as discussing it), like I said in your article, I could understand about providing an incentive for people to migrate to eAustralia (but it will have to be controlled so people dont abuse the free money etc... maybe a bit like the JDS with tasks, but more focused on immigration and becoming apart of the community).
Just if it is linked to a party, it can be seen in the wrong way and possibly lead to an abuse of power (not saying you, but anyone who ends up as PP from any party that does it).
More after clarification about it, if it does become a strong party policy or if your lucky to lead the country, government policy.
If there was a good immigration scheme, something to make it more attractive for people to come to eAustralia, I would be very interested in seeing it and offering suggestions (which you could say no too 😛 ).
Like I said, I have been toying with the idea before as I remember seeing other countries doing it to gain citizens.
With the new game changes coming into play, we could also target economic immigrants by offering packages if they move their companies here etc etc.
I do agree that there is a need for barriers, and at the moment the new members have to stay in the APP for one month before payment, and there would be a expectation that they would be a active part of the community. I would consider more controls over time but for now I think this is a good jumping off point for now
Some=One. Is interesting approach to maths.
Damn it was only one who didnt sign it.... one who said it would not work and what has just happened, A person who agreed to it has just bypassed it all together.
But now I know it is not mandatory and only a suggestion. So in all reality it means nothing now.
Take out the lies "Author"
Please show proof of the corruption and stacking as you have been asked on numerous occasions.
All hail RSU - Revolutionary Suckup Union
Who am I sucking up to.
Evidence of you helping create it is in the link to the article.
Where is your proof?
Well since you need everything spelled out... I will also try and keep it in date order:
Day 3074: https://www.erepublik.com/en/article/immigration-and-you--2593343/1/20 article written by you pushing for the ASIO concept to be brought back.
Day 3076: https://www.erepublik.com/en/article/asio-act-passed-by-congress-2593741/1/20 ASIO act passed by congress (the one congress said they never voted on, but it was worked out by the Minister of Immigration and the Dep, plus the PP) you were the PP of the APP then...
Day 3080: https://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-cp-aus-finally-2594453/1/20 You being announced as one of the ones who worked on it.
Day 3085: https://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-asio-immigration-and-protecting-your-country-2595150/1/20 An ASIO article written by you
But hey you had nothing to do with it, all these articles with your name all the way through it. I could even drag up other articles with you pushing for ASIO to be brought back...
Where is your proof of corruption/stacking? All you have done is singled me out for being involved in the articles (which not all what you are saying is correct, look again mate) there is no proof of your allegations.
Dont worry Guag that will come.... you just rest your pretty little head now. I know you have a big head ache.
Plus if you read I said some refused to sign "it due to believing it to be corrupt and 'stacked'" just like you believe letting in Diablo with out ASIO clearance is accepted and that your not apart or authored the ASIO agreement. Wait, is that sign of corruption, the fact that the author doesnt even follow his agreement... wait the head of ASIO taking money for a CS pass, is that a sign of corruption....
I guess you will have to wait and see eh?
Not sure what you are saying in between your dance moves as you stated before Stojke was ASIO head about corruption but I am sure Henry already clarified for you about the vetting of Diablo. So again not sure on your author statement either.
You sure your not a real life poli? I mean you memory gets quite hazy pretty quickly. I will let you have a day or two, to think real hard about all the lies your saying, because I can see your getting caught in a few stories that you have made up.
http://tinyurl.com/god3gxr
Hahaha, do you keep that on your wall for when you wake up each morning to remind yourself to start being honest?
Let the donations roll on \o/
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-acp-weekly-update-and-giveaway-2507212/1/20
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-adp-this-terms-manifesto-2478462/1/20
ACP where is that party now?
ADP, yep another ADP giveaway.... hence the name Australian Donation Party.
All from Rusty the one who says there is a worrying trend?
what by giving people from Australia (not one party) food and weapons?
Yep, must be vote buying then, well over a year ago.
Not for buying a CP term though 😉 just of course no strings attached
I never bought any votes. Please show me where I told people to vote for me and I will pay them?
I cant help it if people vote for me, because I have a proven record of good CPship.
But to analysis it...
ADP Article: Gold for people actually writing an article.... yes we had a quiet media then didnt we.
Food for all people, no matter there party... ouch that must be bad.
ACP article: Another giveaway for people, whether they are in the party or not.
God, I hate that fact that I dont require party allegiance, just like well over a year ago.
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I was also surprised that Ruthless Warrior (the player above) was in Australian congress for few months being RSU member. His CS request was approved by Rusty during his dictatorship without any discussions.
I am also surprised that Dinarus the original account name came here, served Australia and only after he stood down, the name was changed and so was the CS.
It just goes to show, that maybe people do stuff against the game rules and give their friends an account, or maybe people are good at hiding themselves. It also shows it is a problem for all parties.
But until we know for sure (hence me asking if it was hacked, sold, taken over or wanting a change), we dont really know the real intentions of these users. But I am sure he might of just moved on, since I know how much you investigate different accounts J, if it was anything incorrect, your investigation would of shown it,
RSU provided all those players in eAustralian congress. They caused problems by running illegal revolution, internal division and acted against Australian interests. When I realized that Stojke is not anymore the owner of current account I reported him and will ask everyone to do that as well.
http://prnt.sc/b47vyq
http://goo.gl/7ZSp1O
Who ran the illegal revolution?
Who created internal division and how was this created?
Who acted against Australia's wishes?
It is visible that a congress member from RSU started the revolution - see again the link and SS.
As individual players none of us here is perfect. Take me, Infowar, Binda, Hugh, James Rellori, pr3zzyy and others live or dead accounts being APP members in the past. The party doesn't belong to one person and always try to follow our national interests. You can't accuse APP because one player sold his account to troublemaker. Some of us already reported him and I asked congress members to do the same before your article.
I never blamed the party. Read what I said, I said the APP is "one of the parties who have always been on the forefront of multi hunting and shaming other parties." I was saying you guys tend to be on the ball, hence why I think it is the same user, but just got fed up or something.
In regards to gbr (a ADP stalwart) being on the RSU congress list, you of all people know that you can not remove anyone from a congress list. We cant help it if someone finds the need to hang onto another parties coat tails to get into congress. And the fact anyone who has access to an MU can start a revolution, you dont need to be in congress for that. So the link to political parties and the relation to starting a revolution, I do not see.
Yes I know that you can't remove the candidates from the list. Our PP and me reported Legendary Viking Dragon and soon our new PP will do the same. I asked all congress members to report him. And I think that this is a proper action.
You don't see the link?
RSU congress member started the revolution in January and it is fine for you but right now an account with APP membership has been sold/transferred or something else and you accuse the party for law proposal? Even more - before your article I messaged the congress with you inside that I reported this account and you must do the same.
Your accusations are pathetic, shame on you!
More the fact J that to start a revolution you dont need to be in congress as it is a military action. Plus if you remember he stood down from the RSU the day after congress elections and went back to his preferred party.
I am still unsure about these accusations, by reading the article you would see that I say the APP is normally on top of this sort of thing, or is that what your saying, that is the accusation and in reality that your not on top of these things?
And your report to congress was well after I raised it in Congress. The fact you even stated that you reported him and had no evidence to suggest why you reported him. Unless you reported him for changing his name?
Also if you look at the time line of events, you would see the first law proposed, I raised the issue in congress, the name change, the second law, I raise it again and finally he quit congress.... Mmmmm yep you did a lot of work there...
That only shows that you were pretty aware that I warned the congress in time before someone except the dragon to vote for his proposed laws. I can't really see the reason of your article but your desire to hurt APP.
I cant see where I have a go at the APP.
I was going to write the article last night, but since it was late and I was sleepy, I left it until the morning.
And yes you did say report him, with out saying why. And that was after I questioned the law and name change, incase it was something legit. I personally dont see reporting someone just for proposing a law as acceptable, but I do believe in asking why they propose the law in congress.
Oh wait... illegal revolution... that was gbr let in by JackTrout in Aug.
Internal division, depending on what one would think, anything could be could internal division.....
Acted against Australia's interest? havent worked that one out yet...
oh shut up...
...truly i'm sorry to say it, but
You are attacking Australians citizens and parties cause you disagree(dislike?) with them, well tough, man up... 'how dare a party offer incentives', 'how dare people who deserve return CS be let in'... i don't care if you're angry, or what/who at. If you have the energy to type up an article why not do something useful instead, cause I know you damn well can! Propose a new immigration system! Nothing is gained from this... Nothing! Honestly what do hope to accomplish from this article except to continue an argument? (and if you dare say public awareness, this could be done in 25 words or less, your personal extrapolation on this whole thing rules that reply out)
You also decide a member is a party and thus a representation of it as a whole, all the while saying ""...well the true members of the RSU"" so this doesn't apply to you of course -.- . You call out someone going rogue/sitting/sold account while holding those who supported them pre-rogue accountable for uncontrollable and seemingly random actions.
You claim the idea of ASIO was doomed to being abused by 'certain parties' when the fact is it is unenforcible and meaningless, as all are aware, it is the sign on the door saying "no D***heads" which yeah should be said to be on the meta-door, be it meaningless or not, its a good ideal (the sign, not specifically ASIO). Meanwhile you say you don't care to follow it, despite being outvoted on it and yet you claim to support the government (but only the parts you want obviously) and call heresy when you say you see it not being followed to its letter. You demand signies of the law be held to it or crucified, logically sure principles and whatnot, but see the whole "meaningless yet well intentioned" not the whole "reason to defame publicly and try to instigate some infighting"
So shush... go PM those who you don't like, go out do parties you don't like, go change policies you don't like... This is weak
WyvernJack, thank you for your comment.
When I raised my concerns about the current writting of the ASIO agreement, one PP launched a personal attack and the other simply stated B***s**t and then it was like talking to a brick wall. When the current ASIO leader was proposed, I voiced my concerns in regards to his character and the role he was taking, the vote ended 3-2 for him, so it happened.
The RSU has had a few bad apples in the past, this is something others pin on the RSU every chance they get, see J's comment for a perfect example. Highlighting this player who did the troll laws, just helps for the greater eAustralia to see that even well regarded or previously vetted people can be a risk to our homeland. This issues is not Australian only or any particular party in Australia, it is something that happens everywhere, hence bringing it to the attention of all.
As you might of noticed I did not say the APP was to blame, I actually stated the APP and in particular J Seemore, tend to always look for multi's, so I was doubting whether the account was sold/multi/otherwise. I am unsure where I have said people beforehand should be held accountable....
I did point out the flaws in the current ASIO system, but this was all laughed at and the people who are exploiting the flaws are the ones who said it will not happen.
The RSU decided to go with the in game mechanics for the usage of assigned CS passes. However when others who question the reasons, then flout the law, they have been trying to force onto the greater eAustralian community, it is something as a congress member, no matter the party, should raise concerns about. After all, we are voted in by the people to represent them?
But now it has come out in congress, that the ASIO law, is actually not mandatory, but suggestive. So all in all, the ASIO agreement is just bits of binary code floating in cyber space and doesn't mean squat. However it took this incident to hear that from the CP.
"So all in all, the ASIO agreement is just bits of binary code floating in cyber space and doesn't mean squat. However it took this incident to hear that from the CP."
Essentially the same as anything you have ever done in this game, it means nothing but you still do it. You were by far the least active person in those immigration negotiations and refused to offer any alternative and your criticisms were almost the same as not saying anything.
Your response to the legislation was essentially, 'The leadership conglomerate of the ultra democratic party, the RSU, does not like point 3,4,6'.
At least show the courage to be daring with your lies.
Well after I said I disagreed with the writing of it, said the reasons for disagreement, then you saying B***s***, I left the thread. Which would make you think I am quiet.... considering I wasnt there.
My response was that? and then you go on about lies.... mmmm.... I explained to you why the RSU did not support those points, but rather then discussing it, your response was a nice and lovely B***s*** which is very common in 'negotiations' isnt?
And yes the RSU and myself still support the CP. As we are aware these actions are not his. However last term as you might be aware, when there was a disagreement, the congress whip, proposed an impeachment. I am just highlighting the fact the RSU will continue to support the democratic elected government.
Also unsure about the line about being unhappy about being out voted.... considering the RSU never agreed to the ASIO law.... we werent apart of the vote.
Bravo, WJ.
Stojke was given the opportunity to work on immigration by me because he was one of the few that showed interest. You, for example were not included as a minister of my cabinet, primarily because of real life business that you felt would not allow time to participate. Guagature participated as Deputy. He was is decidedly not the same political affiliation which helped make presentation to Congress unbiased. Last month's Congress assessed the presentation and gave their approval. Look to that body when making your complaint / argument.
As to the mention of the rogue cs pass, I questioned Stojke and he answered me directly without deceit or delay. I was satisfied with his response and things continued with my oversight. Nothing was done that I felt further compromised the effort. I don't feel that poor choice of action is germane to preclude that which was a group effort.
RSU made the decision to not participate last month. This is not new.
Stojke was nominated by me and confirmed to be ASIO last month with no time to really accomplish anything. Gudz made the decision to allow Stojke to finish the job and again he was confirmed. RSU did not participate at their own choice.
"RSU made the decision to not participate last month. This is not new."
Perfect summary. Thanks. 🙂