"L'égalité pour tous ou mort à l'union!"
Slivever
L'égalité pour tous ou mort à l'union!
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/working-for-unity--938015/1/20
Mark Decidius, membre du parti nationaliste GLD (et tellement honteux de cela qu'ils sont incapable de se l'avouer) nous a pondus un article dont les nationalistes néerlandais et flamingants ont le secret.
"Nous sommes pour l'union, le problème c'est les méchants belges qui veulent -tenez vous bien, c'est horrible- faire comme s'ils étaient chez eux!"
Bref, le blabla habituel.
Prenons ici un passage absolument croustillant
"Union is like marriage, and I’m sorry that the Dutch had to be the husband in this marriage, and the Belgians the wife (by the way, with husband I do not mean: The dominant one in the marriage"
Je traduis
"Une union c'est comme un mariage, et je suis désolé mais les Néerlandais représentent le mari dans ce mariage tandis que les Belges (plus de la moitié de la population), la femme. (mais ca ne veut pas dire ; le dominant dan le mariage)"
Hé bhé, si ca ne veut pas dire le dominant... cette phrase ne veut rien dire.
Nous avons donc deux possibilité. Soit ces gens ne savent pas ce qu'ils racontent (certes, c'est vrai pour certain) soit ils cherchent en permanence à camoufler leur vrai sentiment et idée : un nationalisme néerlandais et/ou flamingant!
Oui, ils sont pour l'union. Tant que les belges restent à la cuisine et se taisent.
Mais attention, que les belges s'organisent à travers un parti, ce qu'était le puissant BP... et là, chassez le naturel, il revient au galop!
Je vis dans ce pays. J'en ai été Premier Ministre. J'ai été Président du premier parti du Pays (le Belgian Party). J'ai été attaqué, moi et mon parti par ce genre de personne, tout les jours, depuis plus de 3 mois.
En vérité, je vous le dis, notre pays file un très mauvais coton!
La Stratégie de lutte exclusivement politique EST un échec.
Les francophones du pays doivent s'unir dans une structure communautaire solidaire d'entraide et d'action qui ne soit pas un parti. Des propositions en ce sens seront formulée prochainement.
Je vous souhaite un bon jeu et une meilleure journée encore.
Slivever, en tant qu'indépendant.
(it will NOT be english translation. Complain if you want)
Comments
Please, will you read the article first, and than create a fuzz about it?
English please. don't be a wuss using french to only orient to most belgian players.
Hmmm , I am glad that you can read it Mark! Pls tell me what there stands so I can react too!
(it will NOT be English translation. Complain if you want)
Don't forget to complain...
Frans? En ik maar denken dat hij voorziter is van de Belgiese partei en niet van de "waalsche partei". Hoe kan hij nu nog de belangen van alle belgen verdedigen alsch hei in een taal spreekd die niet alle belgen kunne verstaan?
Well, as far as I can tell from translate, I understand why you won't translate it. It's complete bullshit and that's not worth the KB upload on erep's servers.
Fijne bruggenbouwers. Of is het bruggebouwers.
*complaining about the fact that there's no english translation* >:3
Tellement vrai malheureusement, malgré qu'il y a plus de Ecitoyens francophones, nous sommes traités comme des gens moins importants que les néerlandophones. On veut une égalité point barre. Nous avons grandi en population et cela ne vous plait pas, cela vous fait peur,
Tant que le BP ne représentait une menace à vos yeux c'était "tout le monde, il est beau" maintenant, c'est "cachez le naturel, il revient au galop" Vous developpez du nationalisme pur et dur envers une partie de la population qui doit corvéable
Shortly he is saying this:
Equality or death to the union!
Mark decius wrote an article in which he says "we are for the Union", the problem are the evil belgians that want a good place, it is terrible to have them.
Slivever, independent
the same blablabla
Then he mistranslates a passage of mine:
"Union is like marriage, and I’m sorry that the Dutch had to be the husband in this marriage, and the Belgians the wife (by the way, with husband I do not mean: The dominant one in the marriage"
Into:
"Union is like marriage, and I’m sorry that the Dutch had to be the husband in this marriage, and the Belgians (more than half the population) the wife (but he doesn't mean: The dominant one in the marriage)" And than he says that the sentence with the dominance means nothing.
there are two possibilities:
1. They don't know what they want
2. They are trying to camouflage their Dutch nationalistic views.
Yes they are for Union, as long as the belgians stay in the kitchen. But hear, the Belgians have organised into the BP (the strong BP) and we chase the obvious: change
I live in this country, I've been prime minister, party president. I have been attacked, me and my party, by those persons, during the last three monts
The truth is, i'll tell you, our country goes down the wrong road.
political strategy to fight this IS a failure
De frenchspeaking inhabitants of this country should unite into a community structure of mutual solidarity and action (not a party).
Plans for this will be made soon
I wish you a good game and a better day
"slivever, independent" is placed wrong, that is placed at the bottom, I just didn't scroll all the way down.
Now we know your opinion about the union also slivever. It looks you are doing a lot to ruin it these last days (ingame, on forum and on irc). You are using Mark's personal opinion against GLD, so based on that the BP doesn't want a union also.
Especially with a position in the government this isn't the way to discuss with the citizens of the same country.
Slivever, what exactly are you trying to achieve here? To prove to everybody that GLD is a nationalist party? Sorry, but that is just not true. We released numerous articles stating we're in favour of the union, and yes, we also wrote cricital ones about some things. Not everything is black or white my friend. And btw, this article is the opinion of Mark Decius, and not an official GLD statement (although I can assure you I have not much against it either).
But anyway, I see you are doing your best to unite everyone as well, looking at this remark you made:
'Les francophones du pays doivent s'unir dans une structure communautaire solidaire d'entraide et d'action qui ne soit pas un parti. Des propositions en ce sens seront formulée prochainement.'
Way to go buddy!
Tous les belges ne sont pas francophone....
Je sais ça Dylan, il y a de belges Allemagne, et de belges néerlandais (flemish).
Is this an article from the PP from BP or did you write it as prime minister?
Or is it an article from someone who quites the game the 20th?
i think it the last one. Just someone with a bad temper.
he is not quit the game at the 20th, he just quit active politics here. It is not the same
What are you trying to get with this article?
Desperation is one of the worst human feelings and it makes us do crazy things. With this article you demonstrate you´re desperated and you don´t realize how much damage you cause to your image (I think you don´t mind it) and to your party's image.
Please, reflect about it and for the sake of everyone especially your party, try to rectify it(I know you won´t do it).
@kravenn, you are right, but he behaves like he quites the game. And doesn't care what will hapens afterwords.
Mon total soutien !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Voted of course !!!!
Je suis tout a fait d'accord qu'il faut que les francophones puissent défendre leurs intérêts . Néanmoins comme le dit la devise l'union fait la force . Surtout ici .
I realy don't like the way Slivever is reacting on anything and isn't trying to debate on a normal level.
You are for union. Where Belgians shut up.
Things are very complicated. It's not just GLD. (3 month of daily attack against BP... so FAIR.) But's all of this is disgusting.
We are not desperate! Really not. And I say "WE".
We dream about a whole eunl community. You kill it. You not able to recognize it. And yes, it's SHAME!
A new eunl will birth from this dream. Without the Old BP. But, I hope, with a powerful and structured French community that will serve as interface with the eunl government (and become the counterpoint of Dutch hypocrite nationalism).
If this wasn't the party president of the biggest party and the prime minister of our country, I would say: Don't feed the trolls. Really, what do you hope to achieve with this? I hope this is just your personal opinion and not BP's view.
And thank you I may complain, for I will. Not releasing this article in English just underlines how you are far from working for an Union. I'm glad you will be done as the party president tomorrow, for it seems you are completely incapable of a rational discussion on any level, thus only hurting your party's imago yourself. A truly disappointing article.
I think you're losing the point Slivever. Just stop fighting against nothing and making a real fool of yourself and the BP. Sorry for these though words, you know I always supported you but I think it must be done now with all these fucking articles.
We should unite all BP members and talk seriously about it. No, the Party President does not represent on his own the entire party position and meaning, the members does too so we should debate about the BP and his future with as much members as we can.
You are right Orango. I hope we can start a constructive debate tomorrow.
I like this silvever.. Very mature in arguements, giving everyone a chance to talk with him. Explaining all the questions and stuff..
And just yelling names and stuff without no reason..
NOTTT
why are you so childish?? WTF happened
He blames a group of people on attacking him during the last three monts. As, I am probably one of those people I can tell you that attack should not be taken literally: I've critized the way his party works.
If this is called attack then it is also so vice versa. There are some Belgians always 'attacking' the citizens of the eUNL, but not all Belgians do this. Also not all citizens of eUNL 'attack' you, so you shoudn't put all in the same corner.