What, then, needs to be done?
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by Arthur Wellesley
These are fascinating times for the eUnited Kingdom. For the first time in months, we have a major domestic political battle, but not for the first time it is over the House of Lords. I charge you, the citizen, to consider the facts plainly.
The House of Lords is undemocratic:
This is simply untrue, and to believe it is folly. People charge that because they are unelected, that they are unfit to represent their country. Number one, they are the only national representatives that our country has. Number two, their appointments are wholly dependent upon the House of Commons, the body that is cherished by critics of the Lords as being our democratic representatives. Well, I say this to you all: when the current MP of Scotland, Malta, who has also been appointed to the House of Lords, leads the charge to abolish the House of Lords after having been elected to the Commons with 14 votes, how representative do you think he is to the rest of the country? Or any other MP? Constituency services is NOT, nor has it EVER been, a top priority for our MPs. I was an MP for three months, I've seen it from the inside and out, and that body is just as 'undemocratic', as they say we are. If the House of Lords is to be abolished, then I say abolish the Commons as well and let anyone who wants to get into the Congress mechanism in-game have a field day.
The House of Lords should be abolishe😛
Wrong. The House of Lords needs to exist. It used to serve an important function in the governance of our eCountry, until it was emasculated and it's voting powers largely stripped from it. The House of Lords needs internal reformation from it's own Lords, into a more active and energetic body that actively promotes goals for the UK, instead of silently standing by while domestic arguments embroil us all. I hereby pledge this to you as a Lor😛
Save me the House of Lords and I will give you an active and energetic body of the Lords. Give the House the support it needs, and you will have an upper house that does the best job that you can positively ask of it. Save the House of Lords, and you will be thankful you did it.
Furthermore, it is high time that we draft a Constitution to govern ourselves! One codified piece of legal framework, on which we can all rest, in which all our institutions will be framed and we can work with. JerryGFL has said it, John Bartlett has said it, others have said it, and I second it loudly. Let us have a Constitution, let us have the House of Lords, and let us have government.
I am, etc.
Arthur Wellesley
eDuke of Wellington
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Viva la Constitución!
Viva la Revolution!
Abolish the Lords in order to restore total democracy to the eUK political system.
"Number two, their appointments are wholly dependent upon the House of Commons, the body that is cherished by critics of the Lords as being our democratic representatives."
O rly?
i didnt really see any defence on why we shouldnt get rid of house of lords other than the house of commons are as bad as us and we will get better honest.So doesnt really give a reason not to abolish the house of lords
Once again voted by an org bank not by people, making it look like there is more support than there is.
¡Viva la Libertad!
This article really does read as a plea for help. It offers nothing new to the worthiness of HoL debate and if anything at all, highlights the confusion surrounding the whole fiasco.
If HoC were to bring in measures to regulate the HoL I believe that would do little to restore public faith in the system. Allowing the HoL to regulate itself is just plain pointless.
The House of Lords to the laymen eye is undemocratic, shrouded in darkness and without visible merit.
Its time to scrap the HoL.
I am not suffienciently familiar with the inner workings of our eParliament to say whether the current eHouse of Lords is with or without merit. What I will say is that since the 1908 Parliament Act the purpose of the RL HoL has not been as an equal partner to the elected HoC, but as a valuable revising chamber where the great and good can consider and amend hasty or bad legislation from the Commons, on the understanding that the elected HoC has the final say. If this relationship is being or can be simulated in-game, then there is no problem. If it can be codified into some kind of constitutional settlement, as Sir Arthur suggests, so much the better.
If the House of Commons is ineffective and unrepresentative, it is for the people to hold them to account through the ballot box, not for the Lords to circumvent them, no matter how well-intentioned such intervention may be. Despotism, no matter how enlightened, is still despotism.
The Lords in Erep serve mostly as an advisory committee to Commons, to ensure that good legislation is drafted. Over my 4 terms as an MP in Commons, I've seen the good Lords does for the eUK.
Plea 4 help, Plea 4 help! You are not fooling anyone you know, this is a last ditch attempt to save a failing house.
I'm not trying to fool anyone, I'm showing that the Lords are dedicated enough to their job to save the House of Lords, and educating the people about our roles.
Arthur dont you think alot more can be done with people like you in congress rather than in the HoL?
I know you will say some lords are persuing military careers but its their choice to be in the military. Being in the military or in politics requires 100% dedication, we dont need distracted people making the big decisions, we need the guys who really have put alot of thought into it.
If i really thought it could change..."Yes".....But do i??? Im not sure.