[MoFA] Report
Foreign Office
TL,DR - don't expect anything good
When I was approached to become MoFA I've asked autonomy in my work, to do things on my own. When that was confirmed I went straight away to work, because in this game terms are 1 month, not 5 years like in RL, contacted relevant people from occupying countries to gather information about the current situation and how we could resolve the problems, but after 1 day in office I can tell you that that's it for this month.
France and Finland, we could easily arrange things, would be some TWs on our territory...BUT everyone has one requirement first, that we sort out our stuff with Ireland, being that they consider Ireland a friendly country. Which is the part where it gets complicated....
Being that the previous deal offered was rejected by the UK Congress, all previous deals are off the table. That fact, the counter proposals offered by the UK Congress (which were received as unrealistic) and the time that it took Congress to decide on things makes the UK Congress an, to use a nicer word, unreliable partner. Another thing, there is also a huge distrust towards some members of the current UK government (that were also in previous governments) and their past actions and abilities, which also makes them unreliable partners. Which in general questions the thought process of the general electorate...
So based on all the feedback gathered and major personnel obstacles in achieving anything I'm finishing my job as MoFA for this month. The government is free to keep me if they need me for some other things not related to this issue or until they find a suitable replacement.
Kind regards,
Pannonian Nomad
eUK MoFA
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Breaking news: Ousted Dictators have 'huge mistrust'
You couldn't make this **** up...
Translation Alpha does not like who who elect therefore we are wiped forever
Should we ask our master who he would like us to elect?
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'sacrificing her own security and sovereign goals'
Is this a joke or are you genuinely suggesting we pose a threat with all your bought accounts?
Yes you must be really scared of all the eUK players who have been defeating you in all those battles. You are just a bully and a joker!
Just give us a list of all the players you would find acceptable to be our CP then. If we do what you command can we have our regions back please?
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"Ireland has never claimed to have any choice or nor does it seek to mandate who the UK chooses as leaders and it has never sought to influence that decision."
That would be a lot more convincing if you and Irish CP Nerusia hadn't led a coup that installed yourselves as dictators of the eUK.
So just be clear O master Alpha what do we need to do to get our regions back?
Or are you just determined to make sure the eUK is perma wiped?
You are disingenuous in the least and the idea that the weak eUK has ever been any threat to e Ireland is just plain laughable, or are you scared when I appear on the battlefield?
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Ah; so pissing off the Netherlands and Slua pissing off Romania, then pissing off to Ireland was all part of the glorious plan?
If you were resigned to the liberation why did you contest until it was obvious we had an allied VISA of our own?
I also remember you posting a rather happy 'Woooo!' in the early hours of the launch which was deleted after you ran off after R1...
You can cast yourself as a benevolent sociopath all you like mate but it just makes us more determined when you take an interest
So what you're saying is that you overthrew our democratically elected government and undermined its efforts during a major event for the eUK's own good? Aside from calling bullshit on that, you just acknowledged that you and Nerusia both "sought to influence" UK leadership, which you were trying to deny.
And arguing that it's hypocritical that the eUK then continued to work with what the dictatorship had left is absurd; it's like kicking in somebody's door and then claiming they're a hypocrite because they didn't then burn the entire house down.
As for Chaz, he's not the one here pretending the coup never happened.
Oh, whilst we're at it there's the whole threatening to dissolve our orgs bull**** you tried to pull
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Chaz was MoFA - the idea gov was unresponsive is a joke given most of the work was dealing with the fallout you were deliberately causing with our partners (again)
Control was not 'handed back' either - you literally ran away when we brought in an allied tank of our own!
'Handed back control' - R1
https://www.erepublik.com/en/military/battlefield/316824/0/fighterStatistics
Bloody hell, that might be the least effort anyone has ever put in to a government office. Even someone who spent all their term AFK would have at least served out their term rather than bugger off within hours.
Sorry, what did you ever do for the eUK? Why waste time on something that can't be solved at the current time with the current people...
So what needs to change ? Or are we just screwed?
"Why waste time on something that can't be solved at the current time with the current people..."
A poor argument when you're the "current people" not solving anything. Also, I'd love to see an actual politician being asked why they didn't even try to do their job by saying "well, what did you do as foreign minister?".
Yes, we are screwed. I'm not even sure why didn't you guys accept the previous proposal ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ We sure not gonna get anything better anytime soon. And you don't have to be genius to figure that out, just talk with people from CODE and Ireland...
I was asked to be MoFA, I accepted, I've tried to sort out the situation, there is no solution currently, someone else can take the job. Feel free to take it and let me know your results at the end of the term o7
"Feel free to take it and let me know your results at the end of the term o7"
Sure; all I'd need to do is last 48 hours and message the Irish twice and I'd have put in twice as much effort.
Calm down lads, we're on the same side
And you will come to the same conclusion as me and I did it in half the time it would take you... efficient
Sorry, but I've never seen this guy do anything constructive besides complaining in comments. But I won't waste my time on him further...
I voted for the proposal .. it was a bit rubbish but better than we have now.. is that proposal still on offer? Or has it been withdrawn?
Nope, it's off the table. Same as any other previous offer. And currently there is no interest for a new one... I mean we can make them an offer, but it would have to be worse for us than the one that was rejected.
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You wanna sign the previous one? 😛
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Alpha miust have been delighted when the eUK turned the offer down.. Just to be clear is it still on the table?
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PN stated his reasons which seem fair enough - given the comments from his Irish alternative they make perfect sense.
And this is **certainly** not the 'least effort' put in by a MoFA, if you want to ask AMD 😛
I dunno, did even AMD quit within a day because they cba actually doing anything?
As far I read it, PN tried, Ire said no, and so that was essentially it. Unless Frix needs him to do/prod someone else he's sort've right he's finished his job
Yup, I finished the job that was planned for me for this month. I'm still here if needed for other tasks, not related to Ireland...or am ready to be replaced by someone else if the CP wants it
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"The government is free to keep me if they need me for some other things not related to this issue"
Free to keep me as long as it's not related to the largest foreign affairs issue lol
That matter is finished for this month. Congress or whoever is free to draft a new proposal to be presented to Ireland, but it has to be worse for us than the last one that was offered to us. That proposal and all other previous ones are off the table.
we need a dicktractor.
I did'nt hear what the previous offer was, only that it would be unacceptable.
Maybe Congress should have voted on it and let everyone know which way they voted and why?
Alfa UKSF
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Frerk knows why UK didn't - 4 Free regions, 5 Training Wars for UK, all money returned and all guaranteed by CODE!
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I don't believe we had any congress for the last 2 terms due to current status. I cannot remember who was in Gov then. Certainly was before Huey. That would explain why the terms were not freely advertised or voted on.
If anyone can add anything constructive to this please feel free.
Congress was in place and there was a Congressional discussion and vote on the "offer". The "offer" was rejected based on a variety of concerns raised (see below). It should be noted that Congress did indicate that if their concerns were met and more acceptable terms brought back they would take another look.
However, as you'll see in the conclusion of the last round of peace talks shared below discussion wasn't taken further...
Huey George (UK), [30.03.21 07:46]
I’m afraid the UK cannot accept the offer tabled by Ireland, Finland and South Africa for the reasons
The minimum 2 months is too vague, we need a specific date in regards to the return of Northern Ireland in the peace treaty.
Ireland (and others) need to return UK tax revenue every 30 days minimum.
The treaty seems to allows Ireland the potential to bring “anyone” into Northern Ireland, it’s unclear how the return of UK tax revenue would work in this situation
It’s unclear why Finland needs to hold two UK regions. If the UK holds London TWs could be more efficiently run. We’d also need a separate and agreed TW agreement with Finland in regards to the conditions of the TW.
The UK Government or even the majority consent of our population cannot control if a RW is started in Northern Ireland as it only takes 10 citizens, (they don’t even need to be UK citizens), or who fights in a RW in Northern Ireland so we cannot accept that “Ireland will merely retake the region and any occupation cash that is in escrow to that point will be forfeit”. It’s too open for manipulation and doesn’t account for the mechanics of Erep. It should be, the UK government cannot be held responsible for that unless they support the RW, fight in the RW or order others to fight in the RW or another other wording that is agreeable to both the UK and Ireland around this sensitive subject.
The line “freedom to organise any TW's from the ceded regions” is too vague, if other UK regions are involved it would have to be a nation that the UK has agreed to host.
If the points above can be covered to the satisfaction of the majority in the UK, we are willing to continue peace talks and transition into TW discussions. The wider TWs proposed by France, Hungary, Slovenia and Turkey as well as the occupation of Scotland were seen more favourably however we’d like to have a TW agreement in place for these too.
We remain keen to see our regions released as soon as possible and not under the threat of constant attack with stability in this part of the world restored however we can only enter into a that improves the situation and clearly offers long-term stability.
Alfa ICA, [30.03.21 08:32]
We thank everyone for attending this unsuccessful attempt to reach a comprehensive settlement, especially @alimight for chairing the proceedings.
The channel shall remain up for 24 hours should anyone wish to take screenshots or notes for archive purposes and then it shall be deleted.
AlI Might 🇫🇷, [30.03.21 08:45]
Thank you for having taken the time to think about a deal.
Northern Ireland is a non-negotiable on the part of our Irish partner. That is why we cannot continue talks for a lasting peace in the region. See you
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A lot of what you've said wasn't really explained at the start of the proceeding however probably a fault of mine, these "unwritten rules" or "assumed etiquette" or "meta" does pass me by, so I wouldn't have been able to pass it onto Congress. South Africa was and still is at the time holding UK regions, so I don't see how they wouldn't have been part of the final solution as game mechanics would require they would have had to concede regions to the UK or other nations, however again there may have been the assumption that as Ali told them "Sorry SAF, but you are not part of the plan" to no official response from South Africa the matter was closed and they would have just withdrawn without official inclusion in the treaty...again I probably missed that subtlety and failed to pass it over to Congress. At any rate, I'm not involved any more at the moment with foreign affairs with more capable citizens in place, so it's probably a good thing 😁