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It's in Hungarian all right, but it's written in an archaic dialect and is extremely hard to read.

thank you on information, any help is welcome.

are you sure it is hungarian?

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Gyanús, hogy valamilyen kevert, de néhány szó érthető is, pl. Batthyányi, jobbágy, illetve az eleje: "Szulejmán Pasá(nak), (aki) az Istennek akaratából a török császár helytartója Budán, és gondviselője Magyarországnak"

hát eléggé macskakaparás

problem je sa staro-mađarskim jezikom jer je i prosječnom mađaru većinom nerazumljiv, čak one stare
tek 100 godna

eto kolko se jezik promjenio

kolegica, dipl. hungaristike i sudski tumač za mađ dok je radila u Arhivu nije mogla prevodit
te starije dokumente

jednostavno, treba nabasat na mađarskog jezikoslovca koji je to specijalizirao...

hvala

Although I don't have a degree in it, I have a pretty good understanding of archaic Hungarian. I studied it in primary and secondary school, and I can actually make sense of it at a logical level (it's a strong disadvantage for people with today's lexical knowledge). The colleague you refer to does not, I think, fully understand Hungarian, even if he is of Hungarian origin. Unfortunately, a lot of people here cannot use the Hungarian language correctly even when they are adults, which is why they cannot learn other foreign language/languages. That's it, Hungarian is a difficult language.

And yes, languages do change, constantly. But note that at that time, due to external influences, the lords living in the border areas wrote their texts in three languages, mixe😛 German, Turkish, Hungarian, and in some places even Croatian.

In my case, I have two problems: resolution and handwriting. I notice the patterns, there are similarities, but for example the same letter is "drawn" in many different ways by its author. I also notice some proper names, which would bring me closer to the solution.

If I find something, I'll let you know. On first reading (10 minutes) it looks to me rather like a correspondence about prisoners.

Have you tried Reddit? There are subreddits for that, I'm sure there are guys who solve it in less than 24h

Very beautiful. Latin alphabet yet looks a bit like Islamic calligraphy. Can't read the cursive only make out the odd word, jobbágy - poor serfs. The writer at the top: Us Suleyman pasha from Gods mercy, servant of the Turkish sultan, governor of Buda (western part of Budapest for you but obviously referring to the entire pashalik governed from Buda), patron of Hungary.

Huhh, it is a real hungarian text, but ancient and only fragments are readable.

First page:
What I understan😛 name of Suleiman Pasha is in the first line.
first two line:
"Suleiman pasha : For the wish of the mighty god.."
Original: "?? Szuleyman Passa: Az hatalmas Isten akarattyabol"
Theireok (??) csaszarnak hely tartó Budán:
"For Theoreok (??) emperor who is a warden of Buda" (Buda= Western part of Budapest, at those times there is no "Budapest", but two twin cities: "Pest and Buda".
"es gondjairavieleore magiar orszagnak" (old hungarian) --> "és gondviselője Magyarországnak" (new hungarian) --> "and protector of Hungaria"

Second page:
A name found!: https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batthy%C3%A1ny_Ferenc_(horv%C3%A1t_b%C3%A1n)
end of first line: "Nagos Vrnak" --> "nagyságos úrnak" --> "to your majestry"
Batthányi Ferenc, he lived at those times. "Batthányi Ferenc De Németújvár " (?), second line."
Maybe it is the adressing: "to your majestry Batthányi Ferenc De Németújvár"
third line: "szabados uramnak" --> "to mr Szabados"
a fragment at the end of 4th lin and start: "Barátunk- nak" --> "to our friend" (??)


I cannot read the further texts.

But, there is an interesting stamp on a text: "Battyhányi hercegi levéltár Körmend" --> Duke Batthyány Archives Körmend.
Batthyány --> famous Hungarian noble familiy
Körmen😛 hungarian city.

The archive still exists!!!: http://bok.kormend.hu/main.php?Lang=EN
They may help you, more than me! contact page: http://bok.kormend.hu/Contact.html

It is an original, or a copy?

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this is copy, recived from hungarian budapest state archive. But belive it or not, they do not give translation to any forgein lenguage. just copy of document. Thank you very much, I have new path to fallow.

I wish you good luck. 🙂 Sorry that the Budapest State Archives did able to not translate it 🙁
What is your story about this doc? (if it is public)

My direct ancestor is Suleiman Pasa. My family and I are researching his history.

Correction: https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batthyány_Ferenc_(főispán) hi lived at 1599.

hi hi hi taliban

Jó kis puzzle.

Az első bekezdés a küldő lenne talán. Mi Szulejmán Pasa, A hatalmas Istennek akaratából, Török császárnak fő helytartója Budán, És gondviselője magyar országnak.
Wiki szerint (31.) Dív Szulejmán Pasa regnált éppen akkor. https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budai_pas%C3%A1k_list%C3%A1ja

Zseniális, az első szó az, hogy "Mi", ezt nem tudtam megfejteni.... pedig annyira tök logikus! 🙂

Az a durva, hogy a szöveget még csak-csak megérteném, de ezt az írásképet már nem.

Röviden és magyarul: az iraton a Batthányi hercegi levéltár pecsétje van, és a szövegben olvasható Batthányi Ferenc horváth bán neve is, aki pont a keltezés idejében élt.
Ami jó hír: a levéltár létezik ma is és van honlapja!

Nagy vagy, talán ott található több irat vagy megfejtes

Nincs kizárva, hogy a levél már szerepel valami levéltári kiadványgyüjteményben. Ez esetbben már van profi átirat.

Most dobtál tucatnyi lekérést a levéltár weblapjára, részemről +1
🙂

It is a nigerian prince from Wien, Austria. 😉

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Bla-bla bla
the HURRICANE came
Blood
Blablabla
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Szlawa Hunkakaricum!