Should Countries Be Removed From The Game?
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by Nikola barun Jurisic
Over the years eRepublik has added new countries into the game, most recently being Armenia, Georgia, Nigeria and Cuba who were added 4 years ago this May coming. Since their addition to the game there has been calls for more countries to added to diversify the playing field and make the game different. I’ve personally seen calls for the addition of Iceland, Jamaica and even Kosovo. Whilst the calls for new additions has seemed to died down and there’s more people raising concern over the balance of regions, I find myself asking whether Plato should in fact remove countries from the game.
Throughout the years the game has suffered major declines in player numbers and with that entire communities have ceased to exist. In Version 1, Ireland would constantly send players over to Bolivia to take part in counter-PTO measures, a practice called ATO (Anti-Take-Over), a term that is no longer relevant in the eWorld at this stage. With the introduction of the Dictatorship module we saw MTO (Military-Take Over) come into fashion. Regardless of international allegiances, citizens fought actively to protect nations democracies from the super-wealthy who looked to turn individual nations into their own geopolitical tools. It was during these times that a nation held some sort of value, independence and free-thought. However, times have changed.
The first country that I believe should be removed from this game is Malaysia.
Malaysia has been PTO’d, MTO’d and has no place in this game as far as I am concerned. From what I can gather, they have been under Dictatorship for months on end. They as a nation haven’t signed an MPP in over a year and the only administration proposals made by their ”Government” is 9 Natural Enemies, all to Poland.
Their economy is also ineffective, with them earning on average weekly:
Work: 41cc/week which translates to two workers working a day.
Work As Manager: 7cc/week
VAT: 12cc/week (Sales of 1200cc).
Not a single sale was made in the Malaysian market on 6 out of 7 of the past days prior to the publishing of this article. It is also worth noting Malaysia suffers a loss of 70/cc a week to Poland which equates to half of their tax revenue.
The following image also sums up why Malaysia should no longer be regarded as a country in this game and in my opinion should be removed.
The next country I believe should be removed from the game is North Korea whose addition amazes me as real-life North Korean would not have access to the game giving the country an automatic severe disadvantage in terms of population.
Similar to Malaysia, North Korea has failed to sign a single MPP over the past year and the only administrative action seen by the country is the proposal of 10 Natural Enemies and one single donation. 9 out of 10 of the Natural Enemies proposed have been on China, the exception being on Russia. North Korea is under constant occupation by China.
The North Korean economy is relatively strong considering its failure as a nation as well as the fact that in their last election they only recorded 8 voters (13 active fighters this week).
China has received more than 15,000cc (over 3 times the revenue of North Korea) in tax revenue from North Korea this week while North Korea has taken in the following:
Work: 2046cc
WaM: 1670c
VAT: 32cc
Assuming their revenue to China has been evenly distributed in the following ways, its fair to assume that North Korea generates roughly 8,184cc a week through Work Tax (2046x4). Further reading into these numbers and calculating backwards from the 5% Work Tax, the amount of wages paid in North Korea equate to 163,680cc a week, 23,382.85 a day or using the current high wage of 355cc we can estimate North Korea to have an active workforce of at least 65 people! A rather high number of workers in a country that only has one production bonus – iron.
While this extra work revenue could be down to overtime work etc, it does strike me as alarming considering the resource bonus and actual population.
Other countries to note who I believe could be shortlisted for removal from the game:
Armenia
Votes in last election: 10
Fighters this week: 13
3 fighters who hit over 100m damage.
1 MPP in past 6 months
Austria:
Votes in last election: 10
Fighters this week: 32
7 fighters who hit over 100m damage.
1 MPP in 9 months.
Czech Republic:
Votes in last election: 13
Fighters this week: 22
8 fighters who hit over 100m damage.
Saudi Arabia:
Votes in last election: 8
Fighters this week: 19
7 fighters who hit over 100m damage.
5 MPPs singed in past year. All signed together 6 months ago.
Singapore:
Votes in last election: 10
Fighters this week: 9
3 fighters who hit over 100m damage.
3 MPPs signed in past year.
Same MU as Malaysia present – Brothers In Arms.
Slovakia:
Votes in last election: 12
Fighters this week: 27
9 fighters who hit over 100m damage.
2 MPPs signed in past year.
Hungarian PTO.
Please note, numbers are subject to change from time of recording.
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Nicely done! I totally agree with your opinion.
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Slovakia belong to Great-Hungary! 🙂
Keep calm, bro 😃
hehe 😃 I m not serious, this is a game, but if it is a game only, why not ? 😃
Remove Russia please
Add Soviet Union please
& mighty red army o7
how about we incorporate austria into hungary and turn it into a dual monarchy
Sound like a great I wonder if anyone thought about it before
Thats not enough
Jeux sans frontières!
http://i54.tinypic.com/u6mic.png
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V+S Dont can opine bcs i ask for 1 region. Good articles.
Voted for good journalism, but I disagree with your conclusion:
Small resource-poor nations being subjugated/manipulated by larger nations and ambitious outsiders is about the only realism in this game.
well written article
Yes, about the damn time.
Removing dead countries would reduce the amount of bonuses in game, force nations to compete from them, cause more dynamic alliances and tightened competition.
It'd be good to compound it with bigger determination bonus, though. That'd further prevent bigger blocks.
I think that's right!
So admins have to clean up what you did?
Pretty much yes. Admins set the context for my playing, in which I play as well as I can.
I don't think it's possible that admins could play against the players if the players don't want to play against each other. They introduced MPP deployment for example and it had no use, situation has become just worse since when it was intorduced.
I cannot force people to play better, unfortunately. Nor I wish to play worse. It is, in my mind, the task of the game developers to incentivise the game so that it enhances a sort of balance. Deployment limit was a step to the right direction.
Deployment was "a step in the right direction", but it had no substantial effect. In my opinion admins won't be able to influence the fate of this game, because the origin of the problem is psychological and not technical.
Theoretically nothing hinders the competition for bonuses and territories, yet most nations find it easier to make a deal with the biggest block instead of competition. No matter how you decrease the number of territories and bonuses, this rule will apply, it will always be easier to make a deal than to compete.
And by increasing determination, you can influence only the frequency of resetting regions, but this will not prevent bigger blocks, it will have no influence on it at all.
People are playing according to the rules given by admins
Remember v1? There were only few regions which gave a great boost for the economy and the countries/alliances without high iron region were losers. So there was a real competition.
Now everyone has neccessary bonuses (thank to resourse wars) and no need to fight because even without any bonuses you can produce sufficient number of goods. There is no any sense to risk. You shouldn't blame players for that
All countries with less than 50 voters and which serve only so big countries could farm their resources and TP should be delete😛
Armenia
Australia
Austria
Belarus
Belgium
Bolivia
Czech Republic
Denmark
Egypt
Estonia
Georgia
India
Israel
Malaysia
Montenegro
Netherlands
New Zealand
Nigeria
North Korea
Norway
Pakistan
Paraguay
Peru
Philippines
Saudi Arabia
Singapore
Slovakia
South Africa
South Korea
Switzerland
Thailand
United Arab Emirates
Uruguay
Remember, voters are active players + two-clickers, which means their active communities are even smaller, if they even exist. They have same governments for months, even years, because there are no other players in their countries. Half of those countries don't even have native populations, but big country players who cannot become congress members of CPs in their countries because they don't know how to do the job and/or nobody likes them back home. Others actively try to recruit players from other countries. Seriously, what's their purpose in this game?
Instead of eliminating these countries, why not make a formal arrangement to combine some, as has been done with eBE and eNL in the past, or Germark. There are multiple possibilities here.
Only if eRep would make a possibility for two or more countries to formally ingame join together, and their country would have a new name, and without a possibility of raising RWs there, and all citizens of joining countries would receive the new citizenship and TP progress... You get what I'm saying? They won't do it.
Besides, like it would be difficult for Canada and Latvia to split former Dutch and Belgian territories between themselves. And most of these countries don't share languages and cultures, how are their governments supposed to work, etc...
Cypsrael \o/
all will follow the way of the goat
nation of all we call it - new Goatistan will rise, all infidels will fall before the great herd.
Peru should be removed 🙂
they should be! regardless of this article 🙂
I know what king trito fisher thinks 🙂
Can u pls tell Egypt which country Serve???...Beware Egypt was the 5th force in your AS
It wasn't Egypt, it was a few Visa players with Egyptian CS, that's all. And they are probably not even RL Egyptian.
ok i agree with that but look you also have tanks that are not rl Croatian
Yes, but those tanks are invited and controlled by our government. They cannot be congressmen or presidents like in other countries. We get deleted in real wars, not like you in TWs.
We still actually have a working country, government, active community, and 95% of the people are Croatian.
no respect to your allies as i see and you are a congress memeber ...
Delijohn
1) it's cold facts, not disrespect. Don't be a butthurt snowlake, grow up.
2) just because we are allies, doesn't mean I'm going to turn the blind eye.
3) yes, I'm a congress member, specifically dealing with economic issues. I have no relations to any of our allies since I work neither in defense nor in foreign affairs
4) the game as a whole is more important to me than even Croatia, let alone allies. Egypt as a country of multies and aliens and being Asteria's colony is not a contributing factor to the game.
No, just no.
This is an interesting proposal. Several of these countries have been under long-term occupation and/or PTO. There is always the problem of RL citizens of smaller eCountries, who have a natural desire to play in their own lands, but have no realistic chance of being fully autonomous. A combination of two countries, such as n0s3 suggests, has been done in the past by agreement, but it is always somewhat unstable as the player base changes or neighboring countries are not respectful of the arrangement. Perhaps this would be more viable if Plato participated in formalizing these arrangements.
Hahahha
North Korea is in eRep Kosovo not
😂😂😂
North Korea haven’t access on internet
Kosovo has 93% albanians and has 10 years as Independent country and in eRep is serbian region
Great Plato 😂😂😂
Calm yo' tits, lad.
Plato has organized a fair referendum. Serbia won.
=> Kosovo je Srbija
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Hahahha little pussy
referendum was really fair 😂😂
No albanians in the game in that time even Albania haven’t existed, 8000 serbians vote pro serbia and the final result was 500 more votes for serbia side
Take your serbians friend and your mom and come in RL and take Kosovo
Happy 10 years of Independence Kosovo
Hail Usa Hail albanians
🇽🇰🇦🇱🇺🇸🇭🇷🇬🇧
The game needs a large-scale geographical reconstruction in regards of adding(?) or removing dead countries as stated in the article, and redistribution of the number of regions to make it at least equal, not like, e.g. USA having 50+ regions while Macedonia has only 3. Just for comparison, only in the one region of Eastern Macedonia (the same ammount of territory) Admins could fit EVEN 6 regions for UAE. The regions were virtually unable to be viewed properly on the old map, so they made the new map, and you have to zoom-in to the max, to view the regions.
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So, I suggest they get a new smart-pants to distribute the regions (if they plan doing so) because so far, they have done a "flawless" job.
poor uruguay has only 1
np @Trend
I disagree
The problem is not countries under TO or dead or small
What you should criticize is :
1. Erep Labs added countries based on an internal vote and not on a growth plan to attract players. Obviously when you add countries via forum vote countries like Cuba or Jamaica will score high (cause you know|) or you will get petitions for Kosovo etc (given the RL background of the existing communities)
This is not healthy for a platform that has even the slightest idea on expanding and reach out to new players . In any case this is only the tip of the iceberg given the incompetence of the developers and owners.
2.IMO we should have as many countries as possible but with the current war system and existing modules you will never see a properly balanced or interesting game since right now there is reward to the farming empires whilst in other games the weak is given bonuses to fight back and make it more and more difficult of having countries accumulating vast empires with low cost to maintain.
3. When was the last time they reviewed the region bonuses?
You remember with what hilarious processes they fixed bonuses?
You still think these people will listen ? 🙂
Anyway good article to trigger the conversation but we all talk to a wall here when it comes to improve the game
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I don't think Plato would remove countries, but there should be some policy against take overs for sure.
Also nowadays baby boom doesn't have a sense anymore, because players stay little in the game, and your referrers don't give you gold anymore for their most achieved medals (ff, tp...).
What I'd really suggest to do is to introduce some policy of recycling old accounts, that should work like this: old players leaving the game could sacrifice their accounts to help their country, for example 3 sacrificed accounts could pay an airstrike.
Those sacrificed accounts could be "offered" to new players achieving level 25 in the little countries, if they prove to be RL players of that country. They would stay referrals of who invited them, and start being valuable as referrals. This way Plato could partly stop the purchase of accounts, encourage old players to remove their account instead of becoming potential fake voters and help baby boom and the little countries at once.
But yeah, I know, it's just another fanaxwish.
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A possible solution can be to allow countries to merge their congress and CP elections using a voting law.
For example, country A with 2 regions merges with country B with 2 regions, creating a federation of 4 regions, uniting resources, political parties and rankings.
Less destructive than simple delete a country, and more fun. We won't need Einstein to create this in the game.