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would be great to get 1 more so zaracool can get into congress

A vote for UKRP is NEVER ‘wasted’!

It is when all the UKRP candidates have already been elected.. It is a simple statement of fact.

The story here is clear - if you really want to be elected to Congress - join the UKRP!

I would rather the TUP PP, however impartial, not instruct our members/supporters how to vote o/

I am not instructing anyone how to vote I am simply saying that at the point I wrote it any extra votes for UKRP would not get anymore members of congress.. I am simply stating a mathematical fact.

A headline 'don't vote UKRP' seems pretty instructive to me tbh. If you want to make the point that a vote for your/another party would give an extra seat in total that's fine, but as a sub-point rather than a vague header.

Plus it's also annoying from our party perspective for obvious reasons. It's like me opening an article saying 'don't vote TUP as they're never meaningfully in government' >_>

I would have said the same thing if voting for the TUP would not gain any more seats

The concept of 'wasting votes' doesn't even make sense, say some UKRP people saw your headline and voted TUP and you gained an extra seat. UKRP would have diluted their share of congress for no reason.

Or if they voted for the WRP they could have given a seat to them rather than the TUP. As I said if the TUP was in the same position I would be advising people not to vote for TUP. Having a UKRP congress member vs a vacant seat I would choose UKRP every time

Field more candidates or vote TUP. Its basic maths.

A few more votes for TUP would have got a new player into congress, a few more votes for UKRP would have changed nothing.

If you need help getting your knickers untwisted I’m happy to oblige.

It's not basic maths, it's some make-believe you'all invented to justify Keiths aggressive tinkering in elections.

If you want to get a new player into congress... move them up the list. It has absolutely nothing to do with any other party.

But I'm sure 'insert new player name' will really miss out on voting yes to some fish export.

It doesn't look good for the UKRP to be so sectarian, the TUP has always supported working closely with other similar parties, so it is very disappointing to see some members of the UKRP basically arguing that an ideal result of the congress lection would be UKRP 8 seats and 32 vacancies. I have stated that if the maths say that a TUP votes would be wasted I would advise people not to vote TUP ... Would we get the same allegations of 'tinkering' then? I want parties to work together especially as we have had to put in a lot of work to get a full congress of 40 (now 39 sadly)

It doesn't particularly give good optics to then change your headline to 'TUP record seats' either really, as if to demonstrate the point entirely 😛

What would your headline be journalistically? No party has got 18 seats before under PR that certainly is the most newsworthy aspect of the results.

Well taking your point, if I'd released an article with the header "don't vote TUP" and then changed it to "UKRP record seats" I think I'd sympathise with folk from TUP being mildly ticked off about it

I only said don't vote UKRP at midnight because there was no point in doing so. In fact there was a risk that instead of wasting their votes subsequent UKRP night voter might have voted WRP and deprived TUP of a seat so my post was not partisan! If the TUP was in the same position it would have said "Don't vote TUP" .. When UKRP wins 19 seats the headline will be record number of seats for UKRP. If anyone in the TUP was upset with these headlines I would tell them not to be so daft and not to be so sensitive. I sincerely hope that next time the UKRP gets its act together and encourages more of its members to stand then you won't get all cry baby when I state the mathematical truth. The TUP feed is full of requests for candidates and we got 19 .. I would have been happier with 20

I'mm not aware that the TUP PP is instructing me how to vote, and never have been. He simply states the facts as they are at that time. For example, if a party only has, say, 8 members, then it clearly cannot win 9 seats.

😁😁😁😁😁😁 this all makes me glad i didnt vote/forgot to log on

A much better headline might be: “UKRP once again get ALL of their Congressional candidates elected”


Reiterating - if you really want to be elected to Congress - join the UKRP

(Rather than WASTING your nomination on one of the other parties)

I don't think that would be a very good headline.. UKRP not putting the effort in to get people to stand is what causes this issue. I wish you could be more cooperative with other parties, rather than trying to make out that your party is somehow the best party because you failed to get enough of your members to stand. You have done better this time but only because you stood 8 candidates rather than 6 my figures show that (+2). Your headline sounds a bit like politicians after a by election all trying to claim victory somehow. If you only stood one candidate than that would be your headline for all congress elections. In fact we could all do that so all 5 parties could claim a fantastic victory. Perhaps you could do what the TUP did and offer a seat to one of the minor parties?

Can we stop this pointless and unproductive tit-for-tat exchange now please.

A very simple way of resolving this particular issue is to persuade Mr Woldy to run on a UKRP ticket in the next Congressional elections. This would reduce the number of TUP candidates by one, to match the number of votes that TUP can muster, whilst increasing UKRP by one, to match our historic ‘over-vote’ issue.

Of course this would mean that the total number of ‘TUP seats’ would go down, but is would mean that the chances of getting all of your candidates into Congress is much increased.

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I thought here was an unwritten rule that we don't poach from other parties.. is that rule broken?

woldys from the spamicans surely?

Woldy, as Constitional Monarch, is apolitical, viz, not a member of any political party - and therefore is free to take a slot in the Congressional elections with any political party

Perhaps a competent party leader would be able to encourage enough candidates from his own party to run for election. Otherwise the UKRP seems to lack that quality

lol