Wind of change?!
Raul Doru
Hello dear readers! Today I want to bring to your attention other (possible) tensions in diplomatic/military relations in the eWorld.
As you probably know, in May 2015 there was a great war between Greece and Bulgaria, that very soon get internationalized. The war was started by Greece in order for them to conquer the last resource they didn't have at the time, rubber, located in Vidin. Greece managed to conquer Bulgaria, but then Bulgaria freed itself along with Republic of Macedonia (FYROM) and the two countries started an offensive against Greece. Republic of Macedonia (FYROM) was quickly defeated, but Greece–Bulgaria War went on.
Later during that May, first Mexico and then Chile Airstriked Saudi Arabia, but neither attacked Greece. Greece seemed to have more success for most of the time, but couldn't hold both countries conquered. The war ended with USA Airstriking Republic of Macedonia (FYROM) and conquering it completely, after which Greece managed to conquer Bulgaria.
Specific detailes about that war you can find here:
http://wiki.erepublik.com/index.php/Greece%E2%80%93Bulgaria_War_(May_2015)
In the end, a NAP was signed between Greece and Bulgaria:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-1344-2534397/1/20 (I don't have the version published by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Bulgaria).
After that, in August 2015, the war in Southern Balkans started again, this time Greece being attacked and conquered by Bulgaria and Republic of Macedonia (FYROM). Then allies from both sides got involved, Greece managed to free some of its territories and the war seemed to go on forever. Finally, a new NAP followed, between Greece, Bulgaria and Republic of Macedonia (FYROM), the so-called Southern Balkans NAP:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-mofa-southern-balkans-nap-2548710/1/20 (again, I only have the version of Greek MoFA).
Apart from the specific conditions of the NAP, what it is really important nowadays is the following: "The preceding agreement shall come into effect immediately upon publication by all three signing parties, on date September 3, 2015, and remain in effect until date November 7, 2015".
It will remain in effect until date November 7, 2015. That's interesting. That date already passed and I haven't seen any article about the 3 countries reinforcing that NAP. And the effects are seen. There is a little tension in the air. And there are again 2 sides: Bulgaria and Republic of Macedonia (FYROM) vs. Greece, Croatia and Turkey.
Even if, till now, no threatening move have been made by either of those countries, the fuse was lit by Georgia, an known ally of Bulgaria. According to the Georgian side, because of the MPPs signed by Bulgaria and Republic of Macedonia (FYROM) with Hungary (enemy of Ukraine, the "real brother" of Georgia) and their agreement with Serbia, Georgia decided to switch sides, rejecting the MPP with Bulgaria and signing one with Greece.
I don't know what to say about this, because Bulgarian MPP with Hungary is 9 months old and about the agreement with Serbia there are no concrete details. But this is for everyone to draw his own conclusions.
About Georgia's official position you can read here:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/georgia-greece-ukraine--2562904/1/20
And there is also a reaction from Valentin Krastev, a Congress member in Bulgaria:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-1344-2562948/1/20
Following that statement, Georgia and Greece have both approved MPP laws. Interesting is that in Georgia whole Congress was in favor of this law, but in Greece there were 10 votes against...
On the other hand, we also have 2 NE laws of Bulgaria and Croatia against eachother (initiated by Bulgaria), but both of them will be rejected.
Anyway, these laws seems to be more related to the desire of both countries to maintain their colonies in India. We know for sure that this is a priority for the new Croatian Government, as it was stated in the official newspaper of Croatian Presidency:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/presjednik-ehrvatske-mihael86-prvo-obra-anje-8-11-2015-2563066/1/20
PS: On that subject you may also like to read an interesting article by Mikhail Zarevich Kalashnikov:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/eilat-times-bulgaria-ready-for-war--2562174/1/20
PS2: Because in the comments costin1989 asked "What Chile will do?", i think this post of Alex Zvezdev is relevant:
and the link to the article published in the past by Chile's MoFA, mentioned by Alex Zvezdev: http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-en-es-mofa-echile-comunicado-oficial-official-statement-1991458/1/20
Now, what do you think the near e-future will bring us? Another Southern Balkans NAP?! More farmville?! Another war in the Balkans?!
LE: We have the first answer: Greece is not interested in reinforcing the previous NAP.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-mop-nap-2563404/1/20 (use Google translate, you'll understand the main ideas).
Remember, stay informed and fight hard!
Comments
i don't know if bulgaria have enough balls to attack greece even if nowadays, greece is a little bit isolated with croatia and turkey and lot of ASTERIA countries will fight against Greece. i don't know what chile is thinking about this because i am sure FYROM will like to get a revenge
we will gonna see!
I believe Chile won't get involved. Officially at least...
It's up to Greece. It has always been.
Voted! I have been also watching those events. It looks like a "cold war" in Balkans by now.
And since yesterday a proxy war in South America, starring Venezuela in "Croatian side" and Peru in "Serbia side". In my opinion it looks like endorsement of Venezuela as a future enclave for drain damage to Brazil. Since Brazil have now territories in Europe.
V+S+E
P.S.: Thanks for comment my article in yours also 😃
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Your newspaper has very interesting articles and a nice vintage design. Is always a pleasure to read it.
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Thank you very much! Yours is also very interesting! o7
Nothing new, all sides wait for the others to do a move.
nah its even simpler than this, as long as the other countries are playing farmville so can the southern balkans.
As it seems all the big countries care only about bonuses and famville I dont see why the others should do the same.
world peace is in the air
*shouldnt do the same
this could be true.
but it will last until one's farmville lot gets too close to another's. then the agricultural wars could begin... 🙂
or until Zdlemmy has another anti-farmers idea. again... 😁
Or until ppl realise that the game has no fun if there arent 2 balanced poles.
1 exists ...it's up to you guys to form the second one 😉
About the Georgia I can say thaty during NE of Georgia by Romania
Most Bulgarians fought for Romania and against Georgian interests.
Not only fought but also shouted to fight for Romanian and Asteria side.
That is all
and MPP with Hungary is not new...
I don't know if they fought for Romania or Romanian COs.
On the other hand, if Georgia knows that Bulgaria's MPP with Hungary is not new, why they expected so long?! Because even the Ukraine - Hungary conflict is not new...
Georgia has good relationship with Peru we had MPP when we are in opposite sides but it doesnt mean that we will fight against our Allie for Peru side.
and the agreement of mcd bulg with hun serb is not only MPP but also the agreement of flowing on the same direction.
MPP doesnt mean having strong relationships. it is just a symbol...
the real Face is shown during Fight and when we hit against serb they opposed us, unfortunately...
in that situation i would stay Mute then shouting messages against my MPP 🙂
Btw I don't know for which campaign you are talking about but I can assure you that we didn't hit against you in purpose. More like the opposite.
Your government is just proGreek&Turk and it has always been. And I'm 100% sure that you decided not to sign with us because Greece told you "We won't have a MPP with you untill you remove your MPP with Lolgaria and Fyrom" like they have said it to other countries. Im not judging you, it's your choice.
Good luck!
Dear Vankata
our government and our country is Pro Turk yes, also Pro Ukraine
and we have friends like spain and so on and on 🙂
Unfortunately it is unacceptable for me to make choice in Allies but i promise if Greece will go against Georgia I will be the very first who will demand canceling MPP with them.
For Bulgaria we have long time relationship, bad and good, both.
we had experienced each other as friends and as enemies
I fought for you against Greece, then Greeks fought against Georgia i remember that time too....
so lets see what will happen.
I dont want you to go to serbia path.
I am not enemy with serbia but they are on opposite side and we cant be all in one boat. The game will not be interesting.
we need changes
Thank you and good luck to you
see Tomm?! you guys just needed a change. this is a more objective opinion than all the fayritailes in Vettell's article (about MPPs and stuff).
and by the way, I consider it a diplomatic mistake to allow an article where you drop your former allies and joined Greece, to be written by a Gama member (I don't have anything against Vettell or Gama or Greece, but it's just too obvious)...
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About Georgian Move I can say this:
It's not always easy to make some moves, and explain the reasons of Moving forward or backwards.
You never know what happens tomorrow , but you can always look at the past and recall what happened .
I may not be straightforward and explain it with ease to be understand,but I'll give it a try.
We always had some communication with Bulgaria, it began with them conquering all our lands,except Capital.
Then it was transformed into the MPP, strange , but it happened, because they changed their attitude towards us for some reasons.
Then in 2-3 months MKD followed their steps and they managed to have MPP with us.
They helped us in many battles, and so did we, we are always where our allies need us.
I always repeat,that I have Friends in primary and Allies in secondary positions, and We repeat that Georgia don't just abandons their allies and friends.
We didn't abandon Lithuania, and try to stay in touch, when so called Wind Of Change hit them, and you know why? because they never went against us , never.
But what I've seen in past 2 months is that MKD and Bulgaria are drifting towards the other side, and their governments(Idk what their people think and how they react) openly oppose directions we have.
Considering what happened when Romania Landed AS on us and then attacked us in BiH , I can't say I see Bulgaria or MKD as allies now, but I see some friends there against whom I don't want to be moving. That's the truth behind it , not the „We'll never have MPP until you drop MKD&Bulgaria“.
I don't think everybody will believe me, and some people may call Me/or Georgia/ BallSucker etc. I don't really care, It's my personal and sincere opinion about this happening , this is how Georgia sees it,I suppose, This is why Georgia has made this hard move.
If you don't consider it hard, then you just don't understand , because it's not quite easy when you see your closest allies harming you.
I understand this more then you know. Once, in this game, there was Cromania. A brotherhood, a family. For the so called dinosaurs from Romania and Croatia it was everything in this game. Unfortunately, it came to an end. And it hurts even now to see Romanians and Croats fighting against eachother.
But one one big, great thing emerged from this ashes. Not just a brother, but a twin: Argentina! Don't get me wrong: Serbia is an important and reliable ally, with good relations in RL. But for me this game will end when (and i hope not, because I plan to spend a few more years here) Romania - Argentina brotherhood will shatter...
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You accuse of playing farmville while you have your mortal enemy at your side and you compete with him to see who can deepthroat better Serbia and blame Greece and Mkd/Bul for keeping peace between them to fight your side \o/
Yes, world is fucked up.
1. I don't accuse nobody of playing farmville, since my country is also doing this.
2. Ask any Romanian, Hungarian, Serbian, Argentinian, Brazilian, Sloven, Portuguese etc. if Romania and Hungary are on the same side. Romania is an ASTERIA member and Hungary is pro-Serbia. For our own interests/desires, we fought, in different battles, against enemies of Serbia. But believe me, Romania and Hungary are not and they won't ever be on the same side.
3. Greece was fighting for and against us. Bulgaria I don't know and I don't care. We have allies to fight for us...
Asteria is your playground sponsored by Serbia, your sponsor demands you to keep the western lands in peace and you say fine.
Quite simple there.
What do you mean by "western lands"?! France is our ally, Germany, Italy and UK are others playgrounds. We'll kick your ass any time for Argentina and Portugal.
And if you're talking about Hungary, we have a very fragile but still functional NAP from way long time.
So... Try a little harder...
I of course meant Hungary -.-"... and you can come to eSpain whenever you wish. We have crashed all the recent empires and adding another to our collection wont be that bad.
We dont play farmville, we are warriors and we will never be slaves like you or Hungary.
"We have crashed all the recent empires"
Daring words from some constantly wiped out by Portugal, Argentina, Brazil, USA. More realistic it will be to count the countries that haven't erased you... Yet!
Daring words from someone that kicked Serbia (twice), USA (twice), Portugal (once), Colombia (lost the count), France (even conquering Paris, its like Budapest for you), invading Peru by AS helping Chile.
We are warriors, not farmers, we havent lost our spirit like you and you words only encourage us, you need like four or five countries at once to take us down \o/.
Also, to correct a little bit, Brazil hasnt been in war for us since years. They remember who stood with them when nobody was...
Lord Doel, that's history. I don't want to argue with you on that. You were mighty once. And maybe you'll be again.
The point is that, in my articles, I will always advocate for war, no matter who is involved in it. And that doesn't mean I want help for my country. We have enough friends and allies for that. And there is always Argentina who's fighting for us, just as we are fighting for them.
I advocate war because in this game, with every other modules killed by plato, war is the only way of fun.
I just wanted to point you advocate for war between Greeks and Macedonians/Bulgarians because it wont concern you even a little bit. If you had to advocate for war between Hungary and Romania you would sit idle.
I have nothing against you or Romania or anyone at all (im pretty simple, i have friends everywhere, its a game after all :3), but this article evidences that Romania has no war and want some kind of great conflict to hit a little bit... just like Polish people... you should simply start your own conflicts, because you have quite a lot hidden under the rug.
Also history... i would say recent history, because thats my CP-historial and i have been in goverment for six months xD.
As I told you, I'm in for any war. Unfortunately (for me and many other Romanians) due to our system of alliances, a war between Romania - Hungary it's not possible in the present.
But we had our wars in recent times and now (beside fighting in our RWs) we hit for our allies and friends.
On the other hand, what good will do to us a war between Greece and Bulgaria/Republic of Macedonia (FYROM)?! We won't fully hit for Greece (Gama fought countless times against us) and I'm damn sure that we won't fight for Bulgaria or Republic of Macedonia (FYROM). Maybe we'll fight for Epic Battles or for COs, but we can find those in other battles too...
The most interesting wars for us are those against (in that order) Hungary, Poland, Spain and Chile.
By the way, we are talking about the two top romanian mu's one did it with a straight back, the other did hide in the shadows, and the two of them bought a mercanary mu what is consisted by top d1,d2,d3 tanks. And there are two storries how they got the money, they bought blackcc with irl money or the ukranian connections got handy 🙂
last week:
16 Spain 66,020,680,960
2 Romania 262,714,311,284
what? you are warriors and we are farmers? ok.
can you stop trash talk now? ty.
Oh yes, our small damage kicked Serbia, your damage hasnt been even enough to MTO Hungary.
Cheers o/
when have you kicked serbian? was their position one of non combat? your co or your damage? and about hungary... there was ONE romanian MU vs Hungary and all their mpps., and they still almost won against hungary. so... yeah. cry me a river 😃
Pardon me, but how came your small damage kicked Serbia?! When?! And please, please, don't tell me you are talking about Serbia being erased by Croatia. Because if you do, I hope that you are aware of the fact that even Georgia inflicted more damage to Serbia than Spain in that war... Not to mention Cyprus, Albania or Ireland...
MTO in Hungary?! What's Romania got to do with that?! It was Nemesis vs. Hungary and it was a hard fight for Asteria and Hungary's allies to win that campaign...
Do you guys live in a bubble since Serbia took your balls? :/
We have been invaded for a year by Serbia and we kicked them (with brain, not by sheer strenght). They came back two months ago and they left the same way. Spain is not affordable to conquer. Thats why USA is retreating again.
Although i hope they learn the same lesson from Indonesia.
Dude, what the hell are you talking?! You have only 5 regions left and Argentina is advancing in your territories. You are gaining some RWs against USA, because they are fighting (and as long as I see winning) in Indonesia.
And you still try to convince us how mighty you are?!
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vot!
https://www.erepublik.com/tr/article/emektar-diktat-r-2563703/1/20
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