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Actually, people that know they are just wasted votes generally drop out to ensure that unsavory characters like CG don't win. It is part of the philosophy of Country > Party > Self and has been practiced for years in other parties like USWP, Feds, WTP..

CG Did well as CP.

you are really going back and commenting on 800 day old articles? are you bored?

I respectfully disagree with your characteristics of CG.

You are welcome to disagree, but his past indiscretions support my statement. Were you here during the time when he and Ajay almost succeeded in handing our Country to Serbian PTOers?

He did the best he can.

CG has planted a multi inside SFP. That multi came in the congress and gave citizenship to CG. That way he made a good job for himself, but a bad job for SFP. Because of CG's past actions where WhydoIbotherToo talks about CG was denied citizenship of eUSA.

no sir. he is the best.

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chickensguys has stated he will not follow the SFP constitution and that he will appoint congressional candidates based on his own criteria. We do not want a dictator as our PP. This is the main reason(s) why I consider CGS run for PP a PTO (Political Take-over) and not a fair run. If you truly believe in democracy and the greater good, then supporting chickensguys is an affront to both of those.

I was seriously contemplating dropingout and endorsing you but a certain message stopped me. Yes, CG the same thing but he backed down quickly from his demands.

Yep. Different account but yeah, i was. I am sure you were here to remember how enthusiastically against CG I was during the last campaign when he buys vote. I am not a fan but at this election, he was the fair one. No one is perfect. Tef lives in the moment.

Do you really think CG has changed? That he is now fair because he isn't showing otherwise? Thenorm is fair, that is why I support TheNorm. Please tell me where TheNorm was ever unfair.

Using surrogates to sabbotage votes does not mean the candidate is fair. Campaigning against others is fair. Demanding a specific outcome and a coronation not so much.

Still it wasn't TheNorm that asked. Also it was asked, not demanded. In this campaign we need a very united front otherwise the one that has been betraying our nation and our party has good chances to win because he will use bribes and intelligent arguments to win. Once he has the PP position he can do whatever he wants with proposing candidates for congress and supporting a CP candidate. CG already said he isn't bound by SFP constitution. It is not because nothing that all that are long time members of SFP are against CG. There is a history, whether you will believe that is your choice.

TheNorm did.

Niemand. I absolutely believe you and fought against CG last time. TheNorm did the same thing so perhaps it makes sense to give CG a chance. Plus we need to reform our constituition. The last attempt went nowhere. A different candidate like CG may get the job done.

CG will do nothing to benefit SFP.
He is using the Party to further his own twisted agenda.
Sad

I respectfully disagree but I respect of view. Thanks.

"TheNorm did the same thing". Did TheNorm try to buy your vote? Has TheNorm planted multis to vote for himself? Did TheNorm betray the eUSA? The answer to all of these questions is: no, he didn't. That's Chickensguys. There is a VERY serious threat of a Political Takeover led by CG. The Party President has the power to choose Congress candidates (or at least rank them). CG will use that power to fill Congress with PTOers and accept citizenship requests from those that support him - disregarding the rules in place to keep out those who would contribute to the dissolvement of our sovereignty. He will continue to do this until he and his Serbian friends can take over the highest office in the eUSA: the Presidency. THAT is what we're up against, tef1. And that is what a vote for Chickensguys will get you.

TheNorm or his surrogate has had mass messages for candidates to dropout. Perhaps it is only against me. Others either did not get the email or they are obliging to the destruction of fair election. Not sure which and I wont judge. Peehaps they are ignoring it as no one dropped out against the wishes of thenorm.

There is nothing anti-democratic about asking someone to consider dropping out of a race. Nothing is binding anyone to go through with it. You are blowing this entirely out of proportion and jumping to pretty extreme conclusions.

Dillon; I agree this is small but undemocratization starts small.

Again: "There is nothing anti-democratic about asking someone to consider dropping out of a race."

Yes, there is.

>supports democracy within the SFP

>supports Chickenguys


So which is it?

Lmao

not funny.

both. Your candidate is doing the samething you and CG did last election. No one else has a chance including me so I had to pick the better one well at least this election. Tef knows that he has lost goodwill because of this rather bizzare decision but stands firm for democracy. Long live SFP under CG.

BOTH. CG is a hero.

This is nearly a thousand days old. CG is a villain and no one cares about your objections to that.

I respect that tef1 stands firmly for democracy.
Tef1 has lost no goodwill from me.
It does however take time to be voted in as PP.
It is an extremely important position , that could have grave effects on the Government and therefore the welfare of the Nation if the wrong people are voted in that position.
Yes our Constitution needs to be updated to better suite the times.
Under CG it will be trashed.
Tef1 needs to seriously give this some thought.
You do not want to end up on the wrong side of history,
Or do you?

Hopefully, TheNorm and I can sit down and talk about if he plans on continuing and expanding the Constitution Working Group if he is elected... I'll be interviewing him a little later tonight.

I have nothing but the utmost respect for you max but the last effort was not great and CG is probably the last hope. Sad it came to this but SFP has to come first.

Interview With PP Candidate TheNorm
erepublik.com/en/article/2656013

bad

Tef1 was best CP of eSwiss.

I would not want to be in the wrong side of history but I guess your definition is different.

A lot of the comments you have made here tef are flat out lies. Anyone truly wanting to run for PP and to win and make this party, as well as follow our constitution I encourage to run, and run often. I have always stood for democracy and been open to everyones opinions. You apparently do not know me well at all. Yet you know chickensguys bad and his continued lies. You should rethink all your comments here. You stated your in the 'moment' .. I would like you to ask yourself, do you think you 'perhaps' went overboard here based on one message, from one person, and are helping the person you so 'detested' last month?

I am only doing it for 25 comments for a mission. I knew correctly this would be controversial. I almost double the 25 comments requirements. I did not ran for the comments but this was for the comments. Biggest apologies to you Norm

Very poor timing, but I understand,.. Thank you for your honesty.

any time.

I do not know who sent you the message that so upset you, nor do I know why you assume it was TheNorm or his surrogate. I do know that all of those commenting here are respected members or former members of SFP who know TheNorm and trust him to preserve democratic principles in the party. To me, that is a far more important issue than any feelings of being personally slighted. There is a vast difference between a respectful request to consider stepping aside for the greater good and attempting to buy your vote as a means to personal power. I hope you will reconsider your position.

you did sir.

Tef1 - you seem like a great ecitizen. I always enjoy reading about you in the 3rd person. But don’t let your reactions get the best of you. You have multiple people high within your own party endorsing TheNorm because of what he brings to the table.

You can vote for who you want. And you don’t have to tell anyone who you voted for, but putting yourself and attaching yourself to CG is not the right move. I almost tied myself to RGR 4 years ago back in 2012 and thank goodness I didn’t.

Do what you think is right. But just know it will follow you around and you will be known as a CS lackey.

Thanks for the advise.

The other play here is that tef1 is just trying to get 25 comments for his mission. Smart tef1. 🙂

you sir is a genius.

o7

Thanks please vote for the norm though.