shortfalls of a pacifist
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Martin Luther Gandhi
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OK so I had this crazy idea to play this social War game called erepublik with the concept of never actually fighting to see how far I can progress and below is a short update:
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After 20 days I have hit a bit of a brick wall in regards to what I can actually do, I have reached level 13 with 243/270 XP however as I have yet to fight I can no longer complete the in game missions as they are all military orientated, a negative bi-product of this experiment is that I can not become an adult citizen!
I have 1948 of 2000 storage slots full of mainly food but as I am not an adult this will not increase and so I can no longer work in my own companies.
My strength has advanced to 148.10 but as I intend to never fight strength is nothing more than a statistic which every 35 days or so will see me rewarded with a 5 Gold bonus.
I have 11 Gold and 908 rupee in my account but have no need to purchase any in game products due to the fact that I only work and train each day and so have no need for food and weapons.
I did spend 2 Gold on starting this newspaper which so far has 11 subscribers, hopefully one day I can reach the media mogul mark of 1000.
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For now I can only work and train each day and write in the media, I guess the admins have designed the game this way as they would never make any money from a citizen like me as I have no need to purchase their products and so I understand why their structure is military orientated.
If given the chance I would love the opportunity to become an adult citizen so that I could develop the financial side of the game, I would like to build my companies and grow food to aid the development of other players but as it stands this is not possible due to the game blocks of being a pacifist.
Maybe in my next article I will try and start a global campaign to appeal to the admins to adjust the rules slightly so that genuine players like me can advance in the game without fighting.
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Added as a friend 🙂 Excellent analysis...
there is one way out of this... sell the food n the market at cheapo rates, empty your inventory and earn more money. With sufficient savings, you would up your training grounds and thus earn more gold and help finance India's war efforts
If you have your FREE training ground upto level 4, you actually end up earning approximately 13 gold a month! (from super soldier medals)
wish you a wonderful New Year and lots of luck!
The selling feature is not allowed until I complete the adult mission which I can not even see as I have not unlocked the fighting mission previous, thanks for the comment!
There are many "training battles" in which two countries agree to swap a region (usually as a rental agreement for the additional resource bonus). I'm not sure whether fighting in a training battle would conflict with your pacifist philosophy, but that is one nice work-around.
You could 'fight' the minimum amount required to level up your account, and do so with a clean conscience and remaining philosophically consistent (as your damages would be going towards a voluntarily agreed upon war game that both sides benefit from).
Either way, Cheers to you ~_^
I would rather not fight at all tbh, I will figure a way around this rather than fight as its more of a challenge, thx for the comment!
Interesting puzzle this - Since you are not an adult, I believe you cannot sell anything, so cannot really make money. I was not aware that there was no way to achieve "adulthood" without fighting...hmmm... very interesting indeed!
one can become an adult citizen by reaching 50 strength point.
http://wiki.erepublik.com/index.php/Adult_citizen
As Ashwamedh says I can not become an adult until I have completed the previous fight missions so I can not sell
ahh...
Had those missions long way back..
Its lvl 15 now, you'll need 300 exp, which you can get from work/train/Daily.
nice story 😉
Excellent article. I will watch with interest how this evolves.... Some nostalgia stirred of the early game.
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Interesting...voted and subscribed....
I hope you'd find a way to solve that.
What about the defense of self and others? If there is a choice between the death of yourself or an innocent and the death of one who would initiate aggression against an innocent party, I believe that the scales would tip in favor of the death of the one who would initiate aggression.
With this in mind, you should be able to fight in those battles where you are defending one of your country's original regions.
well said!! very interesting argument!
Bring our soldiers home! 😉
I understand the argument but once I hit the fight button I will feel I have cheated myself and won't enjoy the game play as much, thx for the comment though!
As long as you don't let it affect the decisions you make in RL. Never hesitate to defend yourself or others, if you are able. Be the sheepdog and not the sheep.
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good point of view!
thank you and a Happy New Year!
you have my best wishes in your experiment 🙂 - through, it wont be an easy journey - people are always resistant to change.
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Good luck! 🙂
By the way, you can sell your products by announcing the quantity and price in your newspaper or a shout to your friends. I'm sure someone will offer you money and you can simply use the donate feature to send the food. This will take care of your storage and you will also gain some money.
But always check the food raw material price. You might be losing money if you sell food instead of food raw material because a food unit includes the work tax for the food factory, the work tax for the raw material factory, the price of the raw material and at some point, after you can sell it in the market, you will have VAT as well.
Of course, until you're allowed to use the market you will be stuck with the raw materials because you can't donate them. You will have to stop producing it until you use it all in your food factory.
Hi thx for the comment but sadly I am not permitted to use the donate feature until adulthood achieved 🙁
OK, now I see the problem. :/
man, you've started your fight for peace? 😃
not bad, but what gives you the right to say that you are a "genuine player" and those that fight are not? ... or what exactly is a genuine player?
I believe he means a non-multi 😃
Yes sorry for not being clear, as Ashwamedh says I mean a genuine non-multi
OMG 62 votes 46 subs and 25 friend request, thank you so much I can't believe it.
For those who say to donate or sell cheap I should verify that as I can not complete the fighting missions I can not unlock (or even see) the adult mission and so without that mission I can not use the features like buy/sell/donate etc etc
I reckon the solution then is simple - have the adult mission shown up front after citizen reaches X number of days ingame 🙂
Luther Ghandi bhai bhai 🙂
lvl 15 is only 300 exp (and you get out of D1 at 5000 exp), and to become adult citizen you will have to do "become adult" mission, and most propably missions about fighting will "cover" adult mission and you will have to do them anyway. And 300 exp isnt much, you will still have 4700 exp left, you will be able to train for approx 2 years in first division 😉
You can say that "you cannot do anything as a new player", but in ePoland even as young citizen you could get into goverment and play the game way it ment to be played 😉 You can get a lot of support from various organisations and Millitary Units, both informations and (if you're active enough and people will be sure that you arent multi or you wont quit next day 😉) gold.
With Rocket Factory (10g) you can start BH hunting, which is the most exciting thing in the game. You can even do it on daily basic (since you can build rockets every day), while in D4 rockets cost more than we gain from BH, and its impossible to get rocket-BH in D4 due to massive amout of people there 😉
Och and work in each company eat 2 exp every day 😁
Very nice read, brings back memories.
martin Luther Gandhi, I see u have the fire inside to be the uncommon of the billions playing this game, and fortunately or unfortunately, that uncommon has landed as an indian citizen. You say no fight, then i say no erepublik.... u cant only be a economist in this game,can u??? u cannot leave the battlefield if u wanna stay in this game...this is not farmville....this is erepublik, here u fight or you die.....you have no choice..... even if u take this step, u r just proving ur self centred thoughts. If u want to be a non-military player, why join a country? you need to give up for the country....u need to make the country first, self last.....
Thanks for the comment Isengard13, I do however believe that I can get enjoyment from this game by only taking part in the media/community and business if allowed as it allows me to stay in touch and up to date with India and the rest of the World without having the responsibility of war, politics, arguments and the need to feel I must spend money to advance my profile.
Actually it's quite a good feeling not being tied to the admins pockets
u r simply running away from the responsibilities of your country...remember one thing kid, theres no politics without war....you can't be a leader, to be a leader you need to be a follower...and to lead you need to set examples, and what examples will you set, dont fight and play...thats all, u know why we respect Ashwamdh and hamturk, and Vigorious, coz they have given up for the country. no war no repect no name, only a foolish change is what you demand that no admin or player will accept....
dont think i m arguing, i m correcting your mistakes,...i know u must have read what lysander spooner commented here...u caanot make your way like this noob....
this is not your life..this is a game, and you are bound to be tied to the game modules...even god cannot be his own way here....
Hi Isengard13, I think the difference is that I don't actually wish to preach this way of game play it is a simple experiment for self enjoyment, I do not wish to be a leader or show people a different path etc etc
As for real life I am far from perfect but in game I do not feel I have to fight to be perfect in fact I think I can be just as an effective player for Indian moral by being a positive effect on the media, the pen is mightier than the sword and all that.
Thanks for your comments, I am glad my article has got some discussions going.
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