[Radenko] Balochistan battle
Muz1
Ok.
So I shud write what I know about recent events regarding Pakistan.
I'm in Argentina, so I'll use my friend's newspapers.
It all started with Brazilian AS proposal http://www.erepublik.com/en/main/law/Brazil/140563
I didn't know what was going on, I messaged Vigon in one of the group threads, asking him why didn't he inform us about this.
I was also discussing it with Sparky on #pakistan channel, Nenya from Turkey saw it, and she realized we know nothing about this ..
So she basically told us Brazil made deal with Vigon, they will use Balochistan for 2 days and then move on, it won't affect our congress.
She gave her word and the word of Turkey.
At this point I still presume that Vigon made this deal.
Later Vigon comes online, he says he knows nothing about this, he calls Brazilian CP Tesla .. bla bla.
So there is a mess, they (Brazilians) say Vigon is lying, he says they are laying ..
It turns out that they didn't inform anybody from Pakistan about this AS whatsoever, but they told Nenya that Vigon agreed.
So, since AS proposal was already on the way, they made a deal with Vigon, 2 days max, 750 cc per day (which is extremely stupid imo, who in earth sells the only region of his country for 8-10 f-ing golds).
So, what can you do, deal is made, no reason not to trust them.
Personally, I like Brazil, they were always good ally to Serbia, lots of friendships were made, and we have dioists from Pakistan here, and Brazil has Dio Max Cavalera and Sepultura ..
They won the AS battle, we didn't oppose, it becomes obvious that they will move to Sistan and Baluchistan once Turkey releases the region.
Then China comes into play.
I don't know who invited them, if anybody did at all, maybe Argies pressured them to kick Brazil out of Asia, maybe not, maybe they just didn't want Brazil on their borders.
I've been informed that China CP was messaged that Brazil has no intention to attack China, but he didn't respond to this.
Maybe didn't believe it.
I don't know, it's not my thing.
Anyway, I've been informed that Pakistan mofa said/wrote that China intention was to conquer Balo from Brazil and release it immediately after that so Pakistan could have a congress.
So, at this point we still have a decent chance to get congress, no matter how this China/Brazil thing ends.
But there was one event which made our chances for congress lot worse.
I don't know who started this RW, my best guess is that Brazilians did it in order to delay China attack, so they could have enough time to attack Iran ..
I did some calculations about congress, and I projected that we would need to RW Balochistan around 21st March 18:00 erep time
I told this to Vigon and some other guys who were in his Party Leaders thread.
Anyway, this was before China got involved.
Once they got involved and this RW started, it became pretty clear to me that winning this RW is our only chance of getting congress.
But government does nothing.
We don't have MoD.
They don't say "You fight and win this RW" or "You let Brazil win this RW"
And I think Brazilians didn't hit hard there, cuz they wanted to delay China attack as long as possible.
I did hit there a little, but eventually my thoughts were "If Pak government doesn't give a f. about this, why should I?"
So I went to sleep.
Once I woke up, I saw everybody shouting "Fight for Pakistan, Free FF medal, CO set .." and all that ..
I looked at the battlefield, and I realized we can win it, so I fought again.
And we did win after all ..
And I'm happy that we won.
Cuz I think Pakistan is too small to care about China/Croatia/Brazil/Turkey/Serbia interests.
It's sad for me to see Pakis arguing with Turks/Brazilians.
I also got disappointed at Romy when I saw his shouts to fight for Brazil.
But I understand why he did that.
Brazil position was also .. not so good in last few months.
No need for people to laugh at Brazilians / Turks, no need for Turkish MoD to threat by wiping out Pakistan, no need for Turks to troll Pakistan with Kosovo (like Pakis care about that?)
I mean, my MU alone can wipe Pakistan out, no big achievement in that.
There were some big mistakes made in last few days.
Brazilians made the 1st one, by not informing us about their plans.
You can't just propose AS Law against "friendly" country and inform it about it later ..
Pakistan also made mistakes.
CP makes deals with Brazil, mofa makes deals with China .. it makes this country look stupid and not serious at all.
And while all this sh. was happening, not a single information by government to tell people what to do.
I don't care about politics man, if I care I wouldn't hit a single shot in this RW so I could troll paki government later.
But you can't work like this.
27 days of boredom, 3 days of some action, and government is completely dead during these 3 days.
Let's say that China should not get involved, but they did.
I can't influence that.
I don't know their reasons.
Also, final mistake was made by Brazilians as well.
They tried to make this RW last as long as it could.
So it turned against them.
When you see all these shouts to fight for Pakistan, you won't think too much about diplomacy, politics and all that.
You'll reshout and hit.
Very simple for me.
So, to bring this article to an end, I am Serb and it probably is in my interest for Pakistan to get "cold" with Turkey, Brazil and entire Sirius.
But I remember what they did for this country, and I'll try not to escalate with them.
So I invite you all to try the same, no need for this.
We don't have the room to give up on our friends so easily ..
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prvi
i dont want to talk anymore about diplomatic ways...
Pakistan just wanted to have congress, this is so normal.. if Brazil would win that RW, Pakistan would have congress too... i explain several times, How it would be...
how? china would let 1 CORE PAKISTAN REGION just for congress days.. but they didnt..
china would lose br MPP war, but assteria didnt want this..
And as i saw today, IF pakistan lost Balochistan RW, China will attack brazil and dont let Pakistan for congress...
I wanted best solution for Brazil and also for Pakistan...
sorry for my this words but, pakistan had been puppet of china & romania & asteria...
this is not my fault...
Don't involve Pakistan in this. You've fought against Asteria who wanted Brazil out of Asia, simple as that, We made Pak RW top prio yesterday, there wasn't much chance of winning for Brazil.
Since you have been in Pakistan and working with us that make me very surprise that you said "Pakistan is puppet..."
You were helping Brazil that means Turkey is puppet of sirius, croatia and anti-serbian coumtries???
Caliph, bro, if "pakistan didnt promise brazil for 2 days" you were right.
but if paki gov promised for 2 days, and then been a part of this operation by china&romania's order, what is this?
Actually none of them knew about this battle. I contacted Atracurium, Argentinian, Serb governments, Asteria, and after contact they set it as priority and started to help us, I'm sure they all can confirm this.
They didn't even know about it, so I believe its wrong to say Pakistan is the puppet.
Bro you read my comment below, its totally mistske of CP that he played Jamed Bond character. He should be impeached.
@TheCaliph, finally he's ePakistan's cp.. and my words are cos of ePakistan's gov. did i blame epakistan citizens?
ePaki gov or someone from ePaki did this?
So u suggest Pakistan shud give up on their congress just becuz things got complicated?
If u attack "friendly" country and inform it afterwards about it, u treat it even worse than puppet, so no need for demagoguery.
It's like "F**k Pakistan, they are weak and stupid, no need to inform them we'll take their only region"
So u attack Balochistan, and u come to Vigon and say "Yes, we attacked your country, can u make deal with us now? We don't really care what you think about it, and we felt no obligation to inform you about this before our attack"
So what is this? This is sign of respect by Brazil/Turkey?
U basically expected Pakistan to give up on their congress so albanians and turks cud say to Brazil "Wow, we were there for u, we're sucha good allies"
Well next time, just leave Pakistan out of your deals and let them directly into Turkey ..
That would be best for anyone ..
Did you do your part?
Yes, we can blame China, Pakistan, Asteria, but did YOU do you part?
No, you didn't.
You also treated Pakistan like cr4p.
Whose job was it to deal with China?
Brazil/Turkey or Pakistan?
It is ur plan, you need to take every option into consideration, not Pakistan.
China doesn't want Brazil here, that's not Pakistan fault, Brazil should sort that out, not Pakistan.
Does Pakistan want Brazil here?
Who cares.
Who cares what Pakistan wants, they are only good to be blackmailed and blamed for everything ..
my job?
i'm in Albania @LordRadenko, not in Turkey or anywhere.. i help brazil az an eAlbanian...
we talk you about this at pm, if i were in Turkey, my reaction would be so different, and be sure that, this problems wouldnt be.
n also, i can blame eTR or eBr, its so different. but this doesnt changes eCn's or others situation...
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i only blame pakistan cos of this:
if u didnt want Brazil in Asia, why did you promise for 2 days?
pls dont say me that: someone from gov did this...
When I say "your job" I mean Brazil/Turkey/Sirius or whoever was involved.
"if u didnt want Brazil in Asia"
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That's exactly my point.
Who ever asked Pakistan about this?
They attacked us 1st, then offered us a deal.
And I told Nenya (while I still believed that Vigon was actually informed about this, although he wasn't) that I think it's stupid idea, becuz of all this Asteria/Sirius sh*t, but it's not my call.
Don't u think that if Brazilians informed Vigon in time, he would discuss it with Congress/Parties/MUs?
I think he would.
So we can talk about what's done, right, but yesterday it was pretty clear to both you and me that winning Balochistan RW is only chance for Pakistan to have congress.
And leaving Pakistan without congress was not part of any deal.
And I just want you to say out loud "Yes, I think you should not fight in this RW and you should not have congress cuz Brazil is more important"
That's legitimate attitude.
I know that you don't hate Pakistan, you helped Pakistan a lot, but yesterday it was very simple choice (for me). Either Brazil will have a congress or Pakistan will have a congress.
It all came down to this.
I made my choice, you made yours.
We can discuss it who led to this, whose fault it is, but yesterday it was the time to make a choice, not to have meaningless debates ..
Please don't ever talk about eCN in your sci-fi plans and ideeas, just keep to what you know(if any). Okey pinky?
So why does Pakistan need congress if their government is dead?
Congress is usually more dead than government.
So hvariz cud take congress medal, that's crucial for this country future ..
kakav je ovo bend nekultura?
Once that RW was started there was no other way to have a congress.
Yes, China could release Sindh or whatever, but since they were faced with their NE vs Brazil, Russian NE and possible Croatian NE, I don't think they would agree to reset paki regions at this moment.
Also, doesn't seem realistic that they would give up on their initiative in war vs Brazil. What's the point of NE, whatsoever.
So we can discuss all possible scenarios, and eventually we will get to the conclusion that it all depended on China's attitude towards Brazil, you agree?
And that's the thing Brazil should work out before AS ..
It's not my job to predict China behavior in this situation, but guys who planned this escape should predict it or try to change it.
I don't have all the information about this plan, I don't know who talked to who, I shared what I know.
I never chose Serbia over Pakistan, so, although I have sympathies for Brazil, one cannot expect me to chose Brazil over Pakistan.
Just as they were ready to leave us without congress once China got involved, cuz, of course, they need to think about what's best for them.
So I'm sorry it worked out this way, maybe it would be smart idea for these big countries to leave Pakistan out of their plans in the future .. So we wouldn't have awkward situations like this one anymore ..
R.
where are those active n stronk pak :/
All this was really badly planned...
eBrazil could easy AS eIran directly without ePakistan in the middle of everything...
Also timing on the AS couldn't get any worse than it was so yeah...
Exactly my point, if they're going to war, why not AS them directly? Didn't get the point of taking a Pakistani region, tbh.
Brazilian tactics were extremely retarded in this matter. Complete lack of coordination with Turkey/Sirius. Stupid to AS Pakistan.
I was following the RW supports in Balochistan. When it was 9/10, 7 of those 9 were "no face" players, all lvl 20, created on March 20th. I mean multis, of course. Their nationalities wer Pol (3), Ser (2), Chn (1) and Bra (1). I couldn´t find out who was behind the scene of this RW but it was clearly orchestrated by someone.
Maybe was Brasil trying to buy some time, but they couldn't start the attack over Iran (with NE still 3 hours to vote). The only hope they have is that their allies help them fill de AS.
Stupid move by Brazil.
There was no organization and naturally that operation was doomed from the start.
So why didn't Brazil just AS Iran directly?
I think its because Balochistan were to be used as a base, in case the direct AS to Iran might have failed, which would mean no Congress for us, but still..
Glorious victory by brave Pakistan people.
Congratulations, your efforts to liberate Balochistan were successful and the region is now free. Help liberate 4 more region(s) to get the Freedom Fighter medal.
Only when the ePakistanis who chose this country from the beginning as their home, as their motherland (be the Dioists, RL Pakistanis or simply long standing members of our community) stand up and take responsibility for the country will there be any kind of improvement.
It was done before, it can be done again.
I dont blame anyone, I and Radenko did some calculations and decided to fight in RW and ask friends who can do damage for us. Our friends fight for us this is what I know.
If you talk about govt of Pakistan that is the most retarted and stupid deal they made that people were not aware what is happening and after this shit happens more senseless articles were published with crap without any justification of their idiotic war strategies and afterwards this all ends up sadly with endless arguments with our turk and croatian friends which I wanted.
Despite of all congress is dead and no has guts to propose CP impeachment law. They call themselves patriot? Shame on them!
Which I never* wanted... (correction)
http://epakistan.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=149
1. Pakistan AS Croatia (Sirius). Pakistan CP says he coordinated, Croatia (Sirius) CP says it's a lie.
2. Brazil (Sirius) AS Pakistan. Brazil (Sirius) CP says he coordinated, Pakistan CP says it's a lie.
Pot, kettle, black. Seems like we got what we had coming to us. Just my two cents. Cheers.
"Oho!" said the pot to the kettle;
"You are dirty and ugly and black!
Sure no one would think you were metal,
Except when you're given a crack."
"Not so! not so!" kettle said to the pot;
"'Tis your own dirty image you see;
For I am so clean – without blemish or blot –
That your blackness is mirrored in me."
Keep fighting o7
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