[CP] NAP Treaty FR PL UK : What about eBE and eNL ?
eBelgian Presidency
Dear citizens,
We learned a few hours ago that ONE and eFrance have been negotiating a Non Aggression Pact (NAP) treaty. This treaty needs to be approved before becoming official, and may not be signed.
The NAP has been negotiated by an eFrance representative (Papa Frantz, the President of eFrance), an eUK representative (jamesw, President of the eUnited Kingdom), a TERRA representative (Vanek26, SG of TERRA), and an ONE representative (Andrej_M, SG of ONE).
The treaty would result in a non aggression pact between the parties and the following region swaps:
1. Poland and allies will release five (5) occupied regions: Upper Normandy, Lower Normandy, Picardy, North Calais, Paris Isle de France. They will be released by Resistance Wars.
2. United Kingdom will get three (3) french regions : Brittany, Pays de la Loire, Loire Valley, from France or from Poland.
3. Poland will hold 12 regions: Aquitaine, Poitou Charentes, Midi Pyrenees, Languedoc Rousillon, Limousin, Burgundy, Auvergne, Rhone Alps, Franche-Comte, Alsace, Lorraine, Champagne-Ardennes. These regions will not be given up at any moment to any other country.
4. Poland will give France 2 regions : Wallonia, Southern Netherlands.
5. The UK will give France 1 region : East of England.
6. Terra and France will not start or support any resistance war in regions mentioned in point 2 and 3.
7. One and the UK will not start or support any resistance war in regions mentioned in point 5.
Link of the treaty : http://pokazywarka.pl/7gg3oc/
Wait, what? Was there something in there about eBelgium and eNetherlands?
Yes, this treaty is quite surprising in that it is involves our country, eBelgium, and our friends the eNetherlands, but that none of the respective representatives have been consulted or informed about it! No messages through official or unofficial channels, just fait accompli, “Surprise!”
Many citizens (eBelgians or not) have reacted to what can only be perceived as arrogance in the sale of part of eBelgium and of the eNetherlands without their knowledge or consent.
These negotiating countries and alliances have decided between them that South NL and Wallonia will be given to eFrance, while these two regions belong currently to their respective countries!
eBelgium is a neutral country and has worked hard to build trust and relations with TEDEN and ONE. If this treaty becomes a reality, it will be a violation of our neutrality and independence, and will be an act of war! We have always been open for discussions with our neighbours in the goal to keep friendly relations, but the sale of our sovereign lands without our knowledge or consent is intolerable.
We immediately informed our northern neighbours about this treaty as soon as we learned about it and they were as astonished as we were. Which is strange as the eNL are a full member of EDEN, and indicates that the TERRA SG has negotiated in secret a plan in which eNL will lose their only region! eNL have been a solid ally of eFrance for a long time now (at least from the eBE point of view), and this new arrangement appears not just unfair but also unjust in view of the help the eNetherlands has provided to eFrance for a long time.
The treaty negotiations are happening just few days after the eUSA and ePL signed a peace treaty in which they agreed to share the eFR rubber regions (without the agreement of eFrance if our understanding is correct), so the people of eFrance should empathise with another country having its provinces bought and sold without its consent.
eBelgium does not want to intrude in the private business of the different alliances but it seems to be a delicate period with the map in flux, and we feel that respect and the honor are two keys value that shouldn't be forgotten in this game. Bonuses won’t last, but friendships and honor are permanent!
That's why eBelgium proudly announces that if this NAP treaty is signed, eBelgium will fight together with the eNetherlands to help defend their independence. eNL has been a good neighbor, often our close friends, and recently assisted us with A-PTO plans. We will stand by their side if eFrance & TERRA unjustly betray them.
We urge the eFR congressmen to refuse to accept this plan, for at least the reason that it involves too many countries that are not even part of the problem between France and Poland, including eBelgium and the eNetherlands.
We do think that eBE and eNL deserve respect and should have been contacted and to participate in discussions and negotiations, which would have avoided trouble with all parties.
We also want to inform eFR that eBE remains ready for discussion, and that we would be happy to organize a training war with them if both sides agreed to pre-negotiated terms.
eBelgium is a neutral and independent country, and we hope that our status will be respected.
This article may be a bit premature, as this treaty have not been signed, but we thought it was our duty to inform our citizens and our friends around the eWorld about the current talks that are occuring behind closed doors and in secret.
In closing, we would like to thanks our friends that have alerted us about this troubling situation. We do hope that it will be solved without any difficulties and that the voice of every country will be heard.
The Belgian Government
L'union fait la force ! Eendracht maakt macht ! Einigkeit macht stark !
Comments
I agree, this is just simply ridiculous and should NOT be accepted.
eBelgium have good relations with eFrance too, i'm not sure that this treaty will be accepted by the French Congress to be honest... It is also a strange treaty when you read all the terms (beside the BE/NL part), does eFrance could easily manage 3 rw/day + continue helping their allies ?
This is not signed, and has already been rejected 🙂
Our close friends and allies are also ready to stand by our side, to let this not happen. This will then nalso mean the end of Terra. Wich could be well a part of the US- PL plans.
Does anyone see the irony in the term "non agression pact" here...? We can only hope the people in Congress have higher morals than the people involved in this devious scheme.
Mhmmm shady 😶
And where is signature of Polish CP? xD
·idontbelieveinthispropaganda
dont see it hapening
Maybe this document is interesting. It was another NAP that eFrance made:
http://wiki.erepublik.com/index.php/The_Commonwealth_Agreement
It included occupation of eVenuzuela, eDenmark and eUK. These three nation was nothing asked (same as now with eNetherlands and eBelgium).
NAP is for eFrance occupying other nations.
Not going to happen
@Niemand, Denmark has a union with Germany, both governments (Germany & Denmark) have agreed on that 6 months ago.
it has too many factors on it... it will not pass...
But it's nice to know that big countryes don't give a sh@t on smaller ones, either neutral (Belgium) or EDEN (Netherlands) countryes
bullshit.
Niemand, eVenezuela and eUK are proONE/ONE countries, so where is the problem if TEDEN countries make deals about conquering them?
ilphen answered about eDenmark.
France doesn't want to "colonize" the Netherlands We are friends. This treaty is NOT accepted.
On behalf of the French people, our governement signed that in secret and we only learned about that this morning, as astonished as you are. We're actually fighting against this treaty as hard as we can to negociate it again, just between ePoland and eFrance.
This treaty will never be accepted by french people.
I certainly hope this won't happen, if friendship means anything in this game then France has to endure rather than betray its close neighbours.
It is good to see the reaction of our French neighbors. This treaty was a bad idea, and it is good to see it may not stand.
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This is indeed an outrage!
I thank the French citizens for their just and clear answer to this scheme: no, never!
@jamesw It doesn't matter if it hasn't been signed yet, the arrogance of the treaty being created is beyond belief as it is.
eNL will fight with belgium if france attacks you!
I agree 100% with Lily Jayne Summers.
As a french i'm against this NAP.
Merci beaucoup peuple de la France, perhaps it's time to impeach your CP?
Yes Jane Summers and others, it is an outrage this was ever thought up. I really like to hear a statement from the US CP and Vanek26 the SC of Terra😁, there should be repercusions imo.
Pure cynicism...
But thanks to our friends who would be prepared to help us if the worst case scenario ever happens o/
Well... I'm speechless.
Does this invasion occur because of the Tour de France starting in Liege this week-end ? 😁
+1 for Aldous Zamiatin
Staying neutral during a nonstop global war means being divided. Neutrally.
vote from Austria Small nations will need at last a voice that is heard
Voted from Pakistan
The peace treaty was instantly rejected by the UK Congress
I explained the situation to Belgian MoD (because it was easier for me because we speak the same language) but only Belgian MoFa hasn't understood official position (from UK, and she supported their gov !!!)
However, look like that French Gov (and congress) liked it.
This treaty is interesting you know. There's no any Polish reps that negotiated it. And it is quite nice to see that Poland is "giving" to someone regions, while I even dont knew about it. It's interesting, hmm? As long as all parties won't sign the final proposal the deal is not valid.
Moreover Poland cannot "give" regions that she don't even have, think about it people.
First give me and my CP to read the final version to sign before leak it, please.
Regards,
Prophet, MoFA of ePoland
"@jamesw It doesn't matter if it hasn't been signed yet, the arrogance of the treaty being created is beyond belief as it is."
+1
wish it hadnt been rejected 🙁
I think the Belgians think a little too highly of themselves, I mean c'mon you guys are the biggest bores in the whole of erepublik
I love all the responses by high ranking eUS representatives. Makes me proud to be American! (If you don't know me, I'm full of shit and sarcastic at times.)
I think I'll go spam this article on the eUSA forum and see what president Stevens has to say about his golden boy Vanek. I should at least give some trolls a little ammo. 😃😃
voted from USA. This shit's about to blow up in their faces if they try to approve it.
The fact that it was even considered is ridiculous.
UK Congress rejected this proposal, one of the reasons was that Belgium and Netherlands are not ours to sell
Great news kcirp, thanks for the update!
French people don't support this treaty and this idea.
So UK doesn't support it, France doesn't support it, Poland doesn't support it, US doesn't support it, TERRA doesn't support it. Who the heck does then, and how did it ever get negotiated in the first place?
Mayram, the congress of those countries didn't approve.... However I've heard other things about the governments.
Would it be the case the idea was actually floated intentionally by some Polish just to get reactions to help them plan their next moves? Or to stir up controversy within Terra/Eden?
Any idea that gets up for a congress discussion and vote in 3 different countries is bound to get public attention, especially if someone strongly disagrees with it. 😛
This is why I have been fighting against the USWP leadership and against Israel Stevens' Administration.
(If you don't know me I am the loud mouth drunk at the end of the bar)
The American public will never stand for such horse hockey and is currently being hotly debated on the eUS Forums
For our friends who have access...
http://eusaforums.com/forum/index.php/topic,18991.msg317894.
Vanek is not the SG of Terra, and is not involved in or in support of this treaty. Sounds like bad reporting on the part of this paper.