eRO Work Profitability: Houses and HRM
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Good Morning readers,
After analyzing the job market I've started to do some simple math to see what an employer with a salary of 64.5 RON wins.
HRM
For HRM i will talk only for Granite Quarry. Anything bellow is measured in loss.
With Granite Quarry an employer can have 5 employees. Each producing 500 HRM.
For one employee we have:
500 x 0.13 = 65 RON
The profit at a salary of 64.5 is 0.5 RON. You will say that usually the HRM is at 0.14, the only problem is that nobody is buying it at that price.
So for 5 employees you have 2.5 RON profit and you payed for granite quarry 35 gold that is 7700 RON.
You will recover your investment in 3080 days if the bonuses apply.
House Q1
A Q1 house is on the market 293RON. To create one house you need 1000HRM and 2.5 days of work (dow) from one employee.
If you do not produce your HRM than the cost of the house is:
1000 x 0.13 + 2.5 x 64.5 = 130 + 161.25 = 291.25 RON
You will win after 2.5 days the incredible sum of 1.75 RON.
The only problem is that when you sell the house you pay taxes. Taxes for a house at 293 RON are 2.9 RON.
It results that you lose 1.15 CC/ house
The profit changes if you produce your own HRM. 2 Employees are producing 1000 HRM and it is what you need to create the house and we have:
(2+2.5) x 64.5 = 290.25 and you will have a profit of 2.75 RON.
After taxes apply your loss is only 0.15 RON
House Q2
Q2 houses on eRO market costs 574 RON. To create a q2 house you need 2000HRM and 2.5 dow from 2 employees.
The profitability of the q2 house without creating your own HRM is:
2000 x 0.13 +2 x 2.5 x 64.5 = 260 + 322.5 = 582.5 RON
You will "win" - 8.5 RON. Adding taxes from house sell which for a house at 574 RON are 5.68, the loss is 14.18 RON
If you create your own HRM than the situation is slightly different:
(4+2x2.5)*64.5 = 580.5, so you LOSE only 6.5 RON + 5.68 Taxes =12.18 RON.
House Q3
Price for a q3 house is 1150. To create a q3 house you need 4000 HRM. and 3.33 dow with 3 workers.
Will it be any profitability on either of the solutions?
Without creating your HRM:
4000 x 0.13 + 3 x 3.33 x 64.5 = 520 + 644.35 = 1164.35 RON
Taxes are 11.38. Profit: 1150 - 1164.35 - 11.38 = - 25.73
Creating your own HRM:
(8 + 3*3.33) * 64.5 = 1160.355. The loss is 21.73 RON
House Q4
Q4 house costs 2750 RON. To produce it you need 8000 HRM and 5 workers for 4 days. Taxes are 27.22 RON.
The cost of creating a house without HRM creation is:
8000 x 0.13 + 5 x 4 x 64.5 = 1040 + 1290 = 2330
And we have PROFIT: 2750 - 2330 - 27.22 = + 392.78 RON
The cost of creating a house with HRM creation is:
(16+5*4)*64.5 = 2322, and you have a profit of: 400.78
Question for Q4 sellers:
Does Q4 houses sell easy?
House Q5
House q5 is 3650 RON. Taxes for it are 36.13. To create one you need 12000 HRM and 10 employees that work 3 days.
Calculations without HRM creation:
12000 x 0.13 + 10 x 3 x 64.5 = 1560 + 1935 = 3495 => PROFIT of 118.87 RON
Calculation with HRM creation
(24+10*3) * 64.5 = 3483 => Profit of 130.87
Question for Q5 sellers:
Does Q5 houses sell easy?
All this calculation applies to current situation. Day 2647, 4:00 erepublik time, with eRomania having 100% bonus for house industry.
Question for employers: Why do you give that salaries? You all have q4 and q5 house companies?
Best Regards,
Nebunel
P.S. If there is something wrong in my calculations please let me know.
P.P.S. If there is something wrong with my grammar, I DON'T care.
Update 1: 7:34 Erep Time - Salary is now at 65.02 so the HRM is losing 0.02 per worker
Comments
concluzia este ca Romanii sunt buni afaceristi 🙂
Spre deosebire de noi astia mici, la care ne convin salariile asa mari, poate pe ei nu-i intereseaza.
Kleine Tier - Primul meu Endorser - Asa ca sa ramana scris 🙂
O analiză explicită și ușor de înțeles. Am citit cu plăcere.
o7
Multumesc
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o7
fain articol, am inteles si eu mai bine cu e cu munca din spate pentru case. Din cate vad, la Q1 (cea mai cautata) oricum a-i da-o, iesi in pierdere. Inteleg deci ca toti cei care fac case, mai ales cei care mai vand cu 288-287 ron, in loc de 290, o fac din bunatatea inimii lor? 😃
a si v+s+e 😃
o7
Singurele companii profitabile la aceste salarii sunt cele de case Q4 si Q5. Chiar daca aparent la casele Q4 profitul este mai mare acestea se fac mai greu deoarece poti angaja doar 5 lucratori si se vand foarte greu. Asa ca majoritatea celor care ofera asemenea salarii, banuiesc ca au firme de case Q5, orice altceva ducand la o pierdere.
Primul meu endorse dat pentru un articol foarte bun.
faina analiza pentru cei ce doresc implicare in partea economica 🙂
si cand eu am facut calculul la Q7 weps ai zis ca de la case ni se trag salariile asa mari 🙂
iata ca e cam la fel si aici ...
Ai dreptate, dar atunci, adica acum 24h, inca erau pe + La case. Nu era salariul asa mare.
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Articolul a ajuns in presa internationala: International Press Review Vol 4 Day 2647
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/2498596/1/20
Buna analiza, felicitari!
Bravo!
Felicitari!
Great job. Now I know exactly how much I am losing everyday!
;___;
The people that fail at these simple calculations are the same ones that are shouting 'Fix the economy !' all the time. It's always been like that, even before having the house industry.
Of course, there will always be the ones that hire clones and can make a lot of money even at these apparently crazy prices.
sunteti copii? pai in toata aceasta ecuatie l-ati uitat pe Plato. el e singurul pe plus. nu trebuie din cand in cand sa cumperi ceva de la el? singura diferenta este ca el se alege cu banii tai cash iar noi ne alegem cu "glorie". v-as propune un calcul si mai simplu. cei care au cotizat pana acum sa calculeze cat au bagat in joc si cat au scos. intr-o parte sigur e zero.
tu cand bei o bere la 0.5 calculezi si cat pipi faci pe urma?sau cand mergi la cinema calculezi ceva? 😛
felicitari pt explicatie, pe intelesul tuturor!
Calculul, pe de alta parte excelent, pleaca de la premisa ca peste tot vor lucra numa' jucatori - ori asta-i usor naiv (ca sa zic cel putin atat). Drept urmare, atunci cand ai 2-3-4 'oameni' pe care'i platesti cu 10RON, si aia de forma...toate businessurile devin profitabile.
De l-ar interesa pe Plato macar asta si ar vrea s-o rezolve, altfel ar merge si 'economia'.
o metoda ar fi sa nu poti sa vinzi mai ieftin decat poti produce + taxe + 5%. Costul de productie sa se calculeze exact pe formulele de sus, nu pe cat il platesti tu angajatul(clona) tau. Iei salariul maxim de pe piata. Atata timp cat nu poti vinde mai ieftin automat si economia merge 😉. Stiu, cei cu clone vor castiga mai mult, dar si tu angajator naiv, vei castiga un minim de 5%.
O alta metoda ar fi sa blochezi salariile. Avand in vedere ca nu are nici o treaba cu skill-ul sau vechimea ca sa discutam de salarii mai mari sau mai mici. Poate plato sa blocheze salariile la o marja de 10 CC de la cel mai mic la cel mai mare. Sa nu fie diferente mai mari intre cel mai mic si cel mai mare. Automat toti platesc impozite la stat deci o sa fie mai multi bani de razboaie. Elimini posibilitatea tarilor de a stabili un salar minim, sau le dai ocazia sa stabileasca un salar maxim.
Bravo, bun articol!
Ca si producator de q3, recunosc deocamdata merg pe minus.
Noroc ca inca nu am crescut salariile peste 60 si oamenii is binevoitori, nu pleaca 😁!
+ o "endorseala" ca meriti 😃!
salarii prea mari
nice o7
MARITI SALARIILE1
Multumesc pentru informatiile din articol!
Macar la case poti scoate ceva profit ,la food si weps cu angajati probabil iesi in pierdere indiferent de calitate.
o sa incerc sa le calculez si pe acelea. Dar sa am timp
nice v