[TDBM] Congress - Back In Action - Tax Vote (who did/who didnt)
crisfire
eCanada Forums - http://ecan.forumotion.com/
With the end of the recent Dictatorship eCanada once again has a Congress and for years it has been felt that in order for the betterment of eCanada all Congressional business should be debated and voted on in the forums unless the Speaker feels that there is enough support for an in-game proposal thus bypassing a 24+ hour voting period on the forums.
Over time there have been individuals and party’s championing the cause to either totally throw out the forum or set up some kind of private message/article/forum hybrid to make it more accessible for congress members to participate in democracy, while championing that very vague proposal I have yet to see any of them outline exactly how that would work. I have always found it not at all tedious to navigate my way to the eCanada forums and participate, I mean we are talking about a few mouse clicks, far less tedious then playing the actual game. I have also always with great enthusiasm tried to steer congress away from using PM’s for anything more then notifications purposes, private messages are not the way congress should be doing business, it needs to be transparent were matters of national security are not a concern.
Congress has actually not gotten off to a bad start where activity is concerned accounting for the duration of the dictatorship and compounding that with the total eRepublik lethargy epidemic, it’s tough to get enthused these days but Congress is warming up.
Congressman Mann551 proposed-
1. Work tax increase from 5% to 6%
2. VAT tax increase to 4% on food and weapons
3. Lowering Import tax’s to 1% on food and weapons
The Speaker felt that it would not get enough support to pass so he decided to hold the vote on the forums in order to not waste an in-game proposal and it was a good way to gauge congress activity.
Pato Ar -Yes
Crisfire-No
Majial-No
Aries Prime-No (then voted again later for a yes)
Choci- No
Dozzer- No
Exalted Druid- Yes
Yuri Resurrected- No
Mhilly- No
Hypnotist- No
I-Bleed-Blue- No
SGTRock- No
Punisher- No
Mann551- Yes
Mr.A.Smith- No
Lance Lucky- Yes
Dillian Stone- No
Gobba- Yes
ErickLeRouge –No
Joseph Rich- No
5 Yes
15 No
20 Votes out of a possible 40 (50% meets quorum)
********DID NOT VOTE********
Pelagos2011 (CPF)
Ucana422 (CPF)
Garry Carter (CPF)
BennyB (PFC)
Utat (PFC)
Titi1907 (PFC)
Moulin Jean (PFC)
Tylad (PFC)
Eric Boucher (PFC)
TheCanadianPuck (MDP)
Blink Owns (MDP)
Canna Guy (IP)
GonzoBad (IP)
Arronzconleche (IP)
J.Canuck (BAL)
Marcus Corwin (BAL)
Lansizzle (BAL)
18 Congress Members did not vote even after being notified in a Private Message and voting time being extended at least 48 hours. I would urge Party Presidents to make all effort possible to get your congressmen to the forums especially to vote if debate is to onerous for them.
There is currently an Amendment to Government Charter of Canada which reads like this
4. Voting
a. It is the Speaker’s duty to set the length and ratification requirements for a vote taking place on the forums. Votes must run for a minimum 24 hours and require a quorum of 30% of congress as determined by the appropriate forum user-group to be valid, the exception being a Presidential impeachment vote, which must be a minimum 48 hours and requires a 40% quorum of Congress members as determined by the appropriate forum user-group. The speaker may extend any vote by 24 hours for a maximum of two times. If, at the end of that time, a clear result is not achieved then the vote is declared to have failed.
c. In order for a vote to be considered valid the Speaker must open a polling thread where Members may register their votes either by replying in the thread or by using the forum polling option. Unless otherwise stated, all votes require a minimum quorum of 40% 30% of congressmen as shown by the forum user group with a simple majority of votes cast to pass.
Speaker Joseph Rich has proposed basically to reduce the amount of votes needed for a vote to be official aka meeting quorum from 40% to 30% for a regular vote and from 50% to 40% for a Presidential Impeachment vote. While I get what he is trying to achieve I believe this is totally premature given that Congress has just been raised from the dead and I think 40% is already a low threshold for congress to meet and complete a successful vote, yay or nay.
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Deputy Speaker
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Comments
Not the only thing back in action
To drunk to read all the politics but obvious effort deserves a vote and 25cc endorse.
I'm loving these articles. Thanks for publishing them.
Hmm...
someone with 420 super soldier medals can't be wrong 🙂
18 members didnt vote.. interesting..
Where are the deets for the SoA MU?
dont have any really or any MU
just an idea atm
Currently any congressman can put in-game laws to a vote. Game mechanics alone don't require anyone's prior approval. Current forum rules, however, require advance notice, by forum post or in-game article, with 24 hours of discussion. Following discussion, the congressperson can move the ingame vote if he desires.
I see you have proposed to change that. Your new proposal would require that a congressman obtain the speaker's permission for any in-game vote. That may further discourage use of the forum.
It will be difficult to rediscover the culture of congressional debate which has been lost during the dictatorship period and made largely irrelevant by dumbed down game mechanics. I wish you well and send
kind regards
Good stuff
I intend not to vote at all on the charter change, because the best way to defeat it right now is to deny it quorum, at least at the present time. That's a tactical rather than lazy decision.
I pretty sure I voted no
for the recor😛 I used to be SGTRock a long time ago...
ha
a heads up woulda been nice 😉
good article but still yawn
I thought it had been years since we needed to have everything go to a vote on the forums first. It's been a long time since we actually needed to conserve our proposals for foreign currency donations.
Voted! Good stuff.
Great choice, BTW... Jennifer... o.o
Voted but not endorsed since pics are male oriented sexist rubbish. Nothing for cat lovers. 😛
you obviously missed the picture of Jim....sheeesh!
Same people, but where's everyone else? How long has it been since ecanada was quiet like this ?