The end of lulz proposals
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by ligtreb
This article may concern only me, but am writing to mark the end of a long-time strategy in this game. You probably didn't notice this unless you're in Congress, but lulz proposals died today.
Admin sent a message to all congressmen this morning, saying the following:
Honorable Congress Member,
We are writing this message in order to let you know that we have removed the experience points Congress Members receive when voting laws for their country.
This change was required because our data shows that some Congress Members are abusing this system to get the reward. We strongly consider that the only purpose of the Country Administration module is to administrate the country in the best interest of your fellow citizens.
The experience points gained until now will not be affected.
Thank you for your support and understanding,
Your eRepublik team
In congresses around the world, the end of each term has historically been filled with what most call lulz proposals, proposals made that aren't intended to pass.
USA Example
Serbia Example
Every congressman in the world gets a limit of two proposals per term, but if they go unused, you still only get two the following month (if re-elected). Since voting on a proposal used to give you experience points, people in every Congress would make proposals that weren't supposed to pass. As selfish as this might sound, I've long-defended lulz proposals as a strategy. In the USA at least, Congress is filled with people who will use the extra treasure maps (from advancing up a level due to experience points) on either extra funds for fighting, resulting in more damage, or donate them to the military or a militia.
Now, lulz proposals are literally useless. This is a good thing long-term, as newer and not-as-informed players will no longer be confused by all the unnecessary proposals. Also, there were some lulz proposals that could harm a country, like a bad donation, money issuing or impeachment.
While I agree with the decision, it does selfishly bring a tear to my eye though. Lulz proposals were fun, and allowed an alternate path to high experience for those of us who don't use gold for health packs and tanking. Look at the highest-ranked citizens in the world, they're all known for being fighters. In the USA, someone like me who's been in Congress forever was able to get in the Top 10 even though I never spend gold on health packs (I buy food for lots of battles, but if I run out of the 300 wellness allotment, that's it).
Also, does anyone remember when the admins used to publish rule changes in a newspaper? Whatever happened to that? I liked that better than personal messages to people.
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Pointless article? Or most pointless article I've written?
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I wish they still used the newspaper :/
I think its weird that Congress got notified..but presidents didn't...
I'm going to keep embargo'ing countries for the fun of it anyway as well as trying to fix my New citizen message.
I don't think lulz proposals will die, I just think they'll be a few less of them and now they won't really be worth voting for, whether you vote yes, or no.
Admin won't publish articles because they get too many negative comments telling them the truth
Not completely pointless, since they didn't inform anyone but current congress members, who are being displaced in 1 day. Yet another stupid change probably based on getting more money.
Sucks this is over. I milked it out pretty well back in eIsrael (afaik, we were the first to use hardcore CP exp training votes after the switch to 5 exp from 2 exp per vote).
I can see Congress candidates being more ideological as a result of this. It won't be bad at first, but it could be a headache eventually, as there is no incentive for the smarter older responsible players to hang around in Congress as much anymore.
Good for small countries though, as there is less incentive for PTOers (or even friendly strangers, for that matter) to go simply to gain some cheap exp.
Bah! One less trick for me to learn (and take advantage of).
"Also, does anyone remember when the admins used to publish rule changes in a newspaper? Whatever happened to that? I liked that better than personal messages to people."
I feel the same way.
Kill off the small countries. I know when I was stuck in Belgium and Best Corea, it was the xp from proposals that were the only thing making up for not having battles to fight in
I'll miss all that experience.
Good point, Blank Keating. Why not hold off until the new congress and notify them... and see how many quit the congress.
Yeah, they didn't tell CP's.
Thanks for letting the rest of us know Ligtreb. I don't know why they would keep that rule change from the voting public.
As an example of lulz, wouldn't you rather link that Welcome Message from Denmark, I think, with the cool..er...um...national monuments?
It's be really nice if the Admins let the Presidents know.
Or even put a post on the forums.
Or even used their newspaper.
Perhaps they can't communicate well anymore? I bet they can't get around their own citizenship rule. :lulz:
Its also so that people cant link to the eRepublik insider articles in external criticism.
It was a poor showing when eRepublik staffers would write glowing reviews of the game and have some random user come around and post links to the comments section of the Insider where it showed that the userbase was NOT as happy as they were made out to be.
So they decided to do away with the Insider and just spam the masses.
I say good riddance, maybe people who actually wanna do some things in Congress will run and win now. The xp and gold is the only reason many run anyway.
But oh thats right, you all have "froze" congress. So now you all will only get your 5 gold and no xp. LOL
I want to know why they think all Congressman are honorable.
Admin fail again. The end of nonsense is nonsense.
Human behavior trumps all. Teh lulz can never die.
Agree with you 100% ligtreb. This is good in terms of cutting out useless proposals, but also tears at the part were you'd like some good exp.
still a good article, nice to see everyone's thoughts on the matter.
ouch
Not surprising: a terrible implementation into game mechanics.
not a pointless article. Well done, lig : )
Thanks Ligtreb. Wouldn't have known this if you hadn't written about it.
Funny that the Admins care about this at all. Who complained? So what was the point in changing it? It'll make hundreds of Congressmen worldwide UNhappy, but leaving it the other way didn't seem to bother anyone.
Silly Admins.
Voted, agreed on the premise entirely. It was fun gaining random experience via congress while it happened, but no doubt there was some abuse to the system.
Also in agreement w/ the post of new changes in the newspaper. They should bring this back.
Now why exactly do they PM just the current congressmen? Why not everyone?
We'll no doubt see xp proposals tomorrow since the fricking congress elections are today. How are they going to know about it?
Telling (or not since it was a personal email) people about a major rule change after they cannot withdraw is a tad disingenuous. I guess we still at least have mass resignations on the 26th.
So part of the XP incentive is gone - still doesn't remove the medal gold incentive.
I hope the compensation is that Senators are no longer are landlocked - or is the aim to encourage moar woar?
Well, at least they gave everyone plenty of notice.
As I always say in situations like this:
"The Admin is good,
The Admin is great,
I surrender my will to him,
as of this date!"
Although I never liked the lulz proposals, I got to understand them after several terms in Congress. Some people do abuse them, but this should probably be dealt with internally within each nation's political processes rather than by punishing everyone. Maybe there will be more people in Congress who are actually trying to make things better? Maybe not. We'll see...
Nice lulz article, ligtreb...lol!
Anyway, voted!
Prett pointless. Democratic government in the eUSA is dead anyway. Why not milk the system for points ? The corruption is that bad.
"Also, does anyone remember when the admins used to publish rule changes in a newspaper? Whatever happened to that? I liked that better than personal messages to people."
I agree Ligtreb - I will miss the lulz proposals. 1000 xp in one month is nice.
"Also, does anyone remember when the admins used to publish rule changes in a newspaper? Whatever happened to that? I liked that better than personal messages to people."
Very pointless opinion at the end, but a good article.
Thank you for informing us. Ergo, it wasn't a pointless article. The fact that it made top 5 is testament to that. I too, would have liked to have seen Admin write an article explaining this to everyone, not just those in Congress this term. Those fortunate enough to have been elected recently are not the only ones who play this game, after all.
I regret that there will be no more XP for proposals, but in a way it is for the best. If it ends up that people run for office for the actual politics, and not the XP, this may serve to increase the quality of statesmanship in the game.
NOW U DUN FUCKED UP AMERIKA
Please, help me, I need some bread 😞
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bread?