Rumours of my resignation are greatly exaggerated.
Dread Pirate Hobbits
*Picture provided merely to placate HT8.
Do I have sand in my pants?
You may have heard from a certain propoganda article that I have resigned from the senate and can no longer contribute to policy making.
This is certainly not the case. I will explain in my own words, although I can do little to stop someone from paraphrasing me again. I know how Mark Twain must have felt when I wrote the headline for this article.
Senate threads for the past 2 terms have been split in two due to the number of senators being above the 31 maximum for a group message. This has resulted in several problems:
-Proposals have been made in one thread but not carried over to the other thread.
-Discussions from one thread were not easily viewable by those in the other one, certainly not in real time, and sometimes not at all.
-As several issues were often under discussion at one time, orderly discussion became difficult.
-The debate often descended into unregulated abuse.
Do we still need the half-senate message threads?
The Auserep forums and newspaper articles are in the opinion of many, much better options. Some, however are refusing to utilise the forums due to issues with past moderators. Nobody is suggesting that they have resigned from the senate for refusing to use these options, it should similarly be the same for anyone refusing to be part of the half-senate threads, especially if they have been the target of personal abuse in the past.
Under the "democratic dictatorship" system, also known as oxymoronarchy, as the only mechanical vote was held by the dictator, a forum of some sort was required for senators to voice their opinion on laws.
Under democracy senators can now vote on most laws via the mechanics.
On matters of tax reform, declaring enemies, or impeaching prime ministers, any senator is able to release a public discussion paper of the issues and propose the law for a vote themselves. These things do not require a closed discussion. The privacy/security argument is moot as the senate thread has been shown in the past to have more leaks than a pub wall.
On the matter of mutual protection pacts, any senator can propose these in an article, and should the prime minister call for a vote, this too is done via the mechanics.
Should there be votes on institutions, such as the Border Farce which was discussed but not proposed for a vote last term, the voting could easily be done via comments from senators on an official article.
What does this mean for the ADP?
If I become Party President of the ADP, my policy will be as follows:
In the past, group messages soleley composed of ADP members have been civil, and as there are presently less than 31 members, they would fit in one thread.
If the number rises above 31, I would advocate a move to a thread in the Auserep forum, but for the time being I will utilise the group message as most people seem at least tolerable of them.
The main purpose of this will be for party room discussion on policy. Whatever the general membership decides I will release in the official ADP newspaper.
Comments
Thank you for your very interesting article Gudz, it was a pleasure to read and also made me think long an hard about these congress threads. But I would also like to address some points raised in this article...
* Please let me know who said you resigned from congress in a media article (propaganda as you refer to it), as that would be a breach of privacy of the congress threads (as you pointed out apparently they leak all the time). The only article I have seen that mention a resignation did not specify who it was.
* At the time of your resignation (now you have put your name to it), it was less then 1 day into the new threads, so if your point about information not being carried over is one of the reasons, you did jump the gun a tad bit.
* The real time issue is true, however since you brought it up, I have found a solution which I will mention below, but I hope it satisfies you. But saying not at all, is like my above point, it was too early to have any indications from the March thread, that this was happening. Maybe last term or one of the previous terms, but that is the past and was out of this current governments control.
* At the time of resignation, no discussion had taken place. Even after wards, it has been a small amount each time to help with clarity. However I do remember in December someone asking why we couldn't discuss multiple CS request as well as other issues all at once.
* Debate descending into abuse. This is something I would agree with. Hence the rules that were described at the start. Many times in the past someone would abuse or bait another person, I am sure we all can think of a handful of names. Some might accuse me, some might accuse you, some might accuse others...
* Your point about half congress threads compared to real time forums has been noted, hence my solution to follow. However using the forums as the main means of comms is hard to do. They are out side of the game site, cont....
... not many people use them, plus other issues.
* I agree laws that can be, should be done up as an article. Other wise we get laws being proposed with no discussion, like a recent financial (I hope my spelling is correct, as I know you hate my bad spelling) donate law: https://www.erepublik.com/en/main/law/Australia/173094
Now my solution... while not perfect, it should satisfy your stated issues with the current 2 threads....
* On closer inspection, I notice we just scrap in on the amount of congress members v places in a thread. So that means until congress elections.... we can run one thread.
This should allow real time conversation and discussion of points. Abiding by the rules by all members, should reduce the arguments/hostility you mentioned and also should allow with the free flow of discussions.
Since I believe this will satisfy you and many other congress members, I have started a new thread, with all members, bar 2 who still wont accept my friend request. I hope this makes you happy, as I am here to try and please everyone.
Thanks for your response. That solves about half of the issues, I will keep an eye on the group message as an observer for now. I notice I'm already getting continued hostility from one senator merely for voicing my opinion here.
31 voices in a thread versus 3 in a forum ....
First I ever heard of 31 active voices in the thread Henry
Guag if you accepted a friend request you could of been in the thread to see the activity....
If you compare the restarted group message with the forum thread on the new citizen message, the numbers are about the same.
I'm waiting for his farewell article stating he has left eAustralia.
I assume this is the sort of civility I could enjoy if I were to sit in the same virtual room as you. I won't make any secret of the fact that you are one of the reasons I have chosen this path.
I haven't hidden my feelings for you either, since day 1. You haven't been civil so I reckon you're getting what you give and vice versa.
I've experienced hostility since the outset for merely questioning the rationale behind law proposals. Sure sometimes I've retaliated, I'm only human, not a troll-bot.
I'm quite sure that law proposals didn't have a thing to do with my dislike of you. But I do want to apologize because I truly have been rude and hateful toward you. It's all a matter of not being able to see the person face to face and I'm sure you must be a fairly decent person if Guagature likes you. 🙂
If that's sincere then I hope we can move forward. I've seen from your input that you generally have the best interests of eAustralia at heart, and you seem to be open and consistent politically.
Now now you two, time to kiss and make up, but not on the lips ....
/me changes the key to Lany's chastity belt
I'm quite sincere.
I'm still changing toe locks ....
the even ....