Latvia, Egypt, is it fair to sabotage?
Tr3LoS
Greetings!
Before I start explaing the issue, please let me remind you about the event we are participating in. Resource Wars is an event where 74 countries compete for resources with their own needs and their own situations. The rules are also set that countries COMPETE for their resources – this is not „only after you” gentlemen event. Heck, this event can theoretically even change political/alliance landscape.
Today Latvia was going for Deer resource, where our timing was slightly off, which led us to messing with Egyptian battle, which of course led to some major dissatisfaction from Egyptian side. It is quite common practice, some may say it`s wrong, some may say it`s ok. I`m on the „it`s ok” side. Why?
Every single country these 30 days is running by this mindset:
The goals of my country > goals of your country
You take resource when you feel like you have the opportunity to take it, because the opportunity might not come around again. You mess your opponent up if needed because you are FIGHTING for your resources, you are COMPETING. If someone can take the resource from you away, then you do not deserve it in the first place. Latvia has lost opportunities to take resource on numerous occasions due to sabotage from other nations(including friendly ones) during these and previous Resource Wars.
So things between Latvia and Egypt have escalated quite a bit, mostly on Egyptian side. Ruthless Warrior has proposed an AirStrike on Latvia already. This is the same guy who from his previous account proposed an AirStrike on Urugay because a guy from that country stole his BH, which just further makes me believe that admins should implement a mandatory IQ test before allowing someone to become CP/Dictator.
So is it fair to sabotage others?
So first of all, planning for attemt at resource for many countries takes half a day, where battles and domination points are planned etc. That means that half a day is a period where the sabotage can be done – either in the beginning or in the end. I can assure you, knowing that Egypt has many D3 tanks, that they have unintentionally messed up domination point gathering for other countries. You know, you hit in one battle not knowing what their battle plan is, hit a bit too much, the round gets extended by 15 minutes. That is 20 minute error on plan right there. That is as much of a sabotage as it is to intentionally fight against someone in the last hour – the only difference is that noone keeps track of all the battles for 12 hours straight, you know, because RL is a thing and noone really cares about this game.
Second of all, once again, the event is called Resource WARS. If you can`t take the resource, you don`t deserve it – it applies to the smallest nations as well as to the largest ones. If you want to play ice hockey without contact plays, then try figure skating. I would much rather lose a resource on an intence attempt to get it than getting it without any fight. Why should everyone else step aside? If you have a chance, then go for it. You know when Egypt could call us unfair(as they called us numerous times)? If we would mess their battle coordination constantly, when we would specifically target them to take them out of their attempts for resources.
When two countries are fighting each other with full awareness of the situation in the last hour, it`s a fair battle.
This time none of us got the resource, and since Estonia got Deer, we will not be able to set it in our cores. But it was fun, and this „fun” resource is 10x rarer than Neodymium is in this game, so I think it was worth it.
Thank you for your attention.
o7
Tr3LoS out
Comments
Let me just tweak your title a little bit.
Is it MORAL to sabotage?
All is fair in love and war, my dear.
The answer is still yes
I absolutely dissagree.
You (and by you I mean every country that decides to use this approach) could plan your battles carefully to come out on top.
Even if you lost, you would keep your dignity. That's the way we have been playing the whole tournament.
There is a saying in my country that goes more or less "You live for your dignity. When you lose it, you become a lesser being."
I choose not to become a lesser being.
But that's just me.
Everyone's free to make their own choices and live with them.
Cheers
So you can 100% assure that there is no chance that any Egyptian player has ever caused an error in battle time managament(intentionally or unintentionally) for any of the other 73 nations? Because you know that even delaying a battle by 2 minutes at any time in the end can cost a resource.
And no, there is no moral dillema - this is online war game, we dont know each other, we fight for the same resource.
I have been contacted about a person hitting for a country (unintentionally) which would screw that country.
Said person, immidiately talked with the nation he was "screwing" and helped them get the bonus.
And there is a difference about accidentally doing it and intentionally fightint millions and millions of damage.
I am sry I didn't know this game is morality free zone. The avatar in this game represents a side of me, which I choose to be an accurate one of my RL self.
When I want to just cause mayhem, not caring about shit, I play GTA.
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Lol, yikes
Tr3los are you american in real life?
Trelos in Egypt we are trying to get some good bonus (like every other country).We are trying to do so by managing our battles to gain the resource.Almost 3-4 times we lost bonus for 1-2 secs.Last time we lost Deer from Spain and it was a matter of secs again.I shouted congrats to Spain cause they were more lucky than us and made it.They didn't tried to sabotaged us.
We are proud cause we always focus in our effort to gain the bonus and not how to mess up others.
Honestly i didn't expect that from your side.
I would say it is a matter of culture or a different point of view how u see and act in the event.
Never less my personal opinion is what happened today is not a reason for more hate among our countries/ppl.
There are many eCountries who sabotaged us many, many times and still do it with an soulless ignorant smile. Basicly we are forced to do the same... world is full of not nice people who turn other into the same breed; thus one would understand your position and intention for an AS. We shall accept it if it comes down to it o7
Like I said yesterday Egypt hasn't got any attention to AS Latvia.
Here is the proof https://www.erepublik.com/en/main/law/Egypt/176325
We all know the trick of switching dictator for a minute to change the vote. Good move. Congrats on your Deer and enjoy the event!
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A little explain for u : AS on Uruguay was a troll law 😉 I'm playing erep to enjoy of that and troll laws are a part of this game and fun ,,,
And about IQ test, I'm agree with u because I'm sure no one from Latvia has good IQ to be a CP/Dic...
PS. There are 13 deer bonuses more and if everybody plays his/her game, Each country can take one without any problem but when i see an action like yours, It makes me believe there are some idiots in erep !!!
I am too lazy to write long comments.
In my opinion, only one sentence from Pammaxoc long post says it all:
«I would say it is a matter of culture» and Ι add, «...or lack thereof»
😉
Uruguay delenda est.
Now is time for Latvia.
So threatening to wipe country over lost BH is ok for your high morals(AS law is a threat), but fighting each other over resource is not morally ok. Maybe you could further elaborate on your high morals over your quite recent dispute with Israel. Didnt Egypt break the NAP agreement? And werent you the one who tried to justify it by saying that NAP wasnt broken because 5.5 months=6 months, since 0.5 rounds up as 1? And arent your hogh morals confused over double standards regarding AirStrike laws? In your very recent article where you cried that Serbs sabotaged Egypt you were asked will you AirStrike them, to what you replied "not a smart idea". So AirStriking Serbia is not ok, because you will get annihilated, but AirStriking Latvia is ok?
You are the one who should avoid talking about morals the most.
You are the one who should close your mouth 😉
You don't know even those issues are different and u try to clean your dirty action with another issues...
For your answer about Israel==> Go to Pammaxoc's article
Only 1 serbian guy did it but Latvia... All fighters + their gov
I hope u can close your mouth now!
All fighters+gov? 1 player from gov fought there and there were like 5 fighters in total. Obviously whole Latvia 😃 Plus this "sabotage" was organized by me personally, not Latvian gov.
So when Egypt and Canada organizes a TW and you disrupt it and break a NAP, it is ok because YOU feel irrationally threatened.
When Latvia and Egypt fights over a deer resouce, we both sabotage each others battlesand YOU propose an AirStrike, we are bad and morally wrong because it disrupts your battle plan.
You are an egoist, not a player with high morals.
1 PLAYER FROM GOV = YOUR CP/DIC
I THINK IT'S ENOUGH 😉)))
😁 Latvia, I will give you a fair sabotage from now on 😃
You look like one of those people who see only black or white and nothing in the between.
When you sabotage someones battles because you are fighting over same resource(examples - RO-PK over Neodymium or RO-LV over I forgot which resource) I think its fair, because it is competition. However, if you mess someones attempt for resource just for the lulz(amvlad-Spain; amvlad-Slovenia), then I dont think its too justifyable. Do you see the difference between both examples?
Soimu i missed u man 😘
Ladies and gents almost 10 hours after the Latvian sabotage to Egypt for deer Egypt manage to gain the Deer ✌️✌✌✌
We are very proud cause we never let it go and we are always working to gain our goals managing our battles ONLY 🙂
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oh god... kindergarden has more grown up children than you, guys
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no comment!!!!!
Kids will be kids
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endorsed! Kvalitatīvs raksts. tnx.
well, every goverment, or dictatorship, RL, has rule: age when he or she can become one. here, no.. even if youre a 12 year old nerd, you can be dictator and rock the rock. 🙂 pity but well... game and admins are on one side, rest is on other. make changes, force them seems like fight with ... natures caused disasters