Heres part 2
[00:17] if there are any
[00:17] I still have only 1 proposal as vote here today
[00:17] * TTi sets mode: -m
[00:17] what is that proposal, If I may learn
[00:17] sorry, just got here
[00:18] To kick Turkey out
[00:18] cancel ur membership
[00:18] lol
[00:18] 😁
[00:18] i still don't see why bulgaria has problems with that
[00:18] kloraq , you came right in time
[00:18] turkey clearly said that they will give regions
[00:18] 😁
+1
[00:18] it maybe seems like the price
[00:18] it is
[00:18] * Perfect_Knight[HQ] (cgiirc@Rizon-14001C63.red.bezeqint.net) has left #EDEN.summit
[00:18] but it also shows their good will
[00:18] It's a fair deal
[00:19] but, ffs, Turkey is doing everything to become a full member
[00:19] Olivaneksa[CRO], No they did not. They said FULL membership and then the regions 😉
[00:19] they HAS NOT pay for it by regions
[00:19] turks work really hard on relations between countries
[00:19] Because its sensless - give regions to not allied country
[00:19] many of them tanked for eden in last months
[00:19] * Perfect_Knight (cgiirc@Rizon-436C7EE7.red.bezeqint.net) has joined #EDEN.summit
[00:19] many of bulgarians is tanking against EDEN
[00:20] and they are showing that they are ready to enter full eden membership
[00:20] many of Turks is tanking for it
[00:20] I agree with CRO , eTurkey proofed themself as a good allys . for me , it's seems like eBG just want a war..
[00:20] its funny how you forgot
[00:20] * Perfect_Knight is now known as Perfect_Knight[HQ]
[00:20] who carried eden on its back for a months
[00:20] emh, Croatia?
[00:20] i really still don't know the main reason why bulgaria doesn't want to accept turkey
[00:20] or lets say 3 main reasons
[00:20] i understand the history was though
[00:20] the reason is only one
[00:21] * Joep_O[NL] (~Joep_OAFK@Rizon-176D3C99.chello.nl) Quit (Quit: bai bai xoxoxoxo)
[00:21] the population do not want Turkey
[00:21] and why is that so?
[00:21] you done well
[00:21] the reason is rl butthurt because of historical fails
[00:21] if I accept them , we will have civil war
[00:21] maybe all greeks didn't wanted turkey as an ally
[00:21] but when they saw that turkey works really hard to improve relations
[00:22] I can talk about Bulgarians, not about Greeks
[00:22] because u r playing this game
[00:22] they changed their mind
[00:22] Absfresh[BG]: how can you know ppl won't change mind
[00:22] its just a game
[00:22] make bg to realize it
[00:22] I am sure, I read chats everyday
[00:22] they won't change it ofc if you call them to fight against turkey, that they are traitors
[00:22] the public oppinion is really clear against Turkey
[00:22] [00:22] Absfresh[BG]: how can you know ppl won't change mind
[00:22] they did not
[00:23] over the past 3-4 months
[00:23] ... for example
[00:23] * hoffa13 sets mode: +I MUFC92!*@*
[00:23] and why is that so?
[00:23] official orders come to fight against turkey
[00:23] just saying...
[00:23] we need fun and enemy
[00:23] Olivaneksa[CRO] i am sorry that i have to interferee once again ... and atm i am talking as former BG official - the way to improve relations is not with unoficial threats on PM on highest lvl
[00:23] no official orders
[00:23] I ordered everyday fight for eden
[00:24] population changes. but loyalty and alliances carry on.
[00:24] but then request for 2 regions isn't normal
[00:24] if you wanted that turkey stays your enemy
[00:24] it was not request, at least not in the beginning
[00:24] many countries have switched loyalties because of thier population. what eden cherish is the everlasting brotherhood.
[00:24] I told Eashoa back months ago this
[00:24] well it became it seems so
[00:24] if they want to change BG's pop attitude towards TR
[00:25] yes
[00:25] ?
[00:25] those regions are their tool
[00:25] it is a promise, not a request
[00:25] did you keep your promise?
[00:25] my?
[00:25] you and behujhak were those who agreed on it
[00:25] mop = two regions
[00:25] yes
[00:25] never
[00:25] did you see any hesitation, any opposition form turkish side?
[00:25] after we get the regions
[00:25] Eashoa
[00:25] and zdlemmy was the one to say
[00:25] we'd better not do it
[00:25] TTi, could you please put +m and let me explain a few things, talking about past won't solve anything
[00:25] the deal was "first mop, then regions " and two regions were eden guaraanted
[00:25] so stop reminding ppl about this, pls
[00:26] * TTi sets mode: +m
[00:26] Ok, ppl.
[00:26] so
[00:26] * MUFC92 (~chatzilla@Rizon-899102AA.dsl.optinet.hr) has joined #EDEN.summit
[00:26] we have a Bulgarian CP that clearly states Bulgarian people's mind's cannot be changed
[00:27] we have also witnessed how he said "they want to attack Turkey, and all that is stopping them is the EDEN MPPs that Turkey have"
[00:27] would you give regions to a country that feels this way ?
[00:27] I led my armies to Bulgarian wars for many times
[00:27] just to show them that we are friends now
[00:27] and the response I got from them was "we don't need your damage, gtfo"
[00:28] now they ask me 2 regions, would you give them, after being officially attacked by them on many occasions ?
[00:28] and the latest one was done 36 hours ago
[00:29] I want Turkey to become a full-member of EDEN
[00:29] after that, if EDEN requests me to help Bulgaria's economical development
[00:29] I'll be happy to oblige
[00:29] but not right now, that does not make sense
[00:29] Ok, thank you.
[00:29] * TTi sets mode: -v kloraq
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0] We have now been talking and debating for hours
[0😇
0] And we have still two very far ends in the discussion
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1] And as I do not believe that any of this arguing will make any difference.
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1] As Bg stated, they will leave if Turkey stays
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2] I think we have a clear BG or TR vote on our hands.
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2] * TTi sets mode: -m
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2] So any other ideas?
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2] * MUFC92 is now known as MUFC92[IRE]
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2] Or just to start the vote on terminating Turkeys trial?
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2] Its sensless
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3] in my mind
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3] BG force us to choose between BG and TR
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3] Yes they do
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3] and i fully agreed with kloraq speech
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3] But I do not see any other way to move on
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3] Absfresh[BG]: so there is nothing u can do,to be at least allies with eTurkey ?
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3] * Perfect_Knight[HQ] is now known as Perfect_Knight
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3] its almost 3 am
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4] fuck this game
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4] lol
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4] lol
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4] its 6.30am...
[0😇
4] and i had not sleep yet..
[0😇
4] We will start a vote on this in 5 minutes if not better ideas
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4] nothing now
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4] it's 0.30 in Israel
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4] lets start the vote
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4] I don't want to vote 🙁
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4] * oDdkID[Terra] is now known as oDdkID[BY]
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4] it's like choosing between mother or father
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4] comon
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5] Í dont eather, but we cannot stay in the limbo forever
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5] i refuse to vote
[0😇
5] eBG why do you make us vote?
[0😇
5] and I dont see any real actions by anyone
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5] Nor do I. And I think countries should be given a decent 24 hours to think also.
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5] I could avoid voting
[0😇
5] how ?>
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5] Absfresh[BG], Is it ok for you to give 24 hours?
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5] or avoid it totally?
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5] no, pls
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5] nothing will change in 24h
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5] lets finish this
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6] this is a fatal issue ...but it can't be solve in vote..
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6] I work very important job, cannot spend more time in talking
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6] * Chew-Chew-Shoe[IRE] was kicked by ChanServ (Requested)
[0😇
6] * Eashoa was kicked by ChanServ (Requested)
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6] ? 😮
[0😇
7] voting is comming
[0😇
7] Before voting
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7] come onnn we all don't want to vote
[0😇
7] I want to say few words
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7] Ok. I propose a vote to terminate Turkey trial. Who seconds this?
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7] if that is possible
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7] ok, I tried everything
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7] talking , negotiationg
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7] but we did not get enywhere
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7] forcing, lying
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8] Eden lied us
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8] lold
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8] Lets end this now
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8] So does anyone want that vote or not?
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8] OMG.
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8] I will place NE Turkey
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8] Ok. I propose a vote to terminate Turkey trial. Who seconds this?
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8] the end is near
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8] 😮
[0😇
8] it last 24 hours
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8] 2012...
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8] I will just void my vote if possible...
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8] I want say something
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8] before voting
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8] If you decide BG we will reject it
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9] if you decide TR, we will accept it
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9] 😒
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9] we have 24 hours
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9] it is fair
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9] MUFC92[IRE], please say
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9] Ireland feels embaressed
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9] because
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9] we are in position to force
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9] long time ally and friend
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9] from EDEN
[00:40] only because they don't want accept Turkey (as new country) as member
[00:40] it's their right
[00:40] we don't have nothing against turkey
[00:40] we really don't
[00:40] but if one of long time allies and members
[00:40] don't want accept them
[00:40] I don't see why we even vote for this
[00:40] but it's your choice
[00:41] just stating our feelings
[00:41] ok, thanks
[00:41] * TTi sets mode: +m
[00:41] I understand that many of you really dont want to even vote about this
[00:41] But right now we have quite clear statement from Bg
[00:41] And I do not feel that we can hide the thing anymore
[00:42] As I proposed, we can start the vote on terminating Tr trial
[00:42] and if you vote no to that
[00:42] Bg will leave EDEN
[00:42] simple as that
[00:42] It hurts.
[00:43] but also this doing nothing and just hoping hurts
[00:43] I do not see options
[00:43] But CP. YOU NEED TO DESIDE. And that time is NOQ
[00:43] W*
[00:43] * TTi sets mode: -m
[00:43] I placed the NE Turkey
[00:43] we have 24 hours
[00:43] Bulgaria will not vote this
[00:44] ok so
[00:44] Belarus votes NO. Turkey should stay in EDEN.
[00:44] oDdkID[BY], prpose the vote please
[00:44] emh
[00:44] we vote for expeling turkey
[00:44] when voting is starting ?
[00:45] "propose a vote to terminate Turkey trial"
[00:45] * TTi sets mode: +m
[00:45] Ok. I start the vote on terminating Turkeys trial for EDEN
[00:45] Vote yes/no
[00:45] * TTi sets mode: -m
[00:46] Olivaneksa[CRO] Perfect_Knight
[00:46] TTi diuras hoffa13 mihail_cazacu kelemeta[HQ] KoHaH LitoII naufragiatu Absfresh[BG] ArikAharon[ISR] Atracurium[CN] Endymionis[NO] GeluRomanu[RO] Glorietta[IT] hawkoulis[GR] Justino[PT] kloraq Koze[Fin] Kromov LucifelL MUFC92[IRE] Nino54[AL] oDdkID[BY]
[00:46] As I proposed, we can start the vote on terminating Tr trial
[00:46] Ok. I start the vote on terminating Turkeys trial for EDEN
[00:46] [12:42:29~am] and if you vote no to that
[00:46] [12:42:33~am] Bg will leave EDEN
[00:46] Vote yes/no
[00:46] there no such a vote is illegal
[00:46] Shouldnt there be an abstain?
[00:46] YES - IRELAND
[00:46] or was it not writen in the charter
[00:46] then all will just abstain and we wont get anywhere
[00:46] TTi
[00:46] but that is ok for me
[00:46] come one
[00:46] on*
[00:46] yes norway
[00:46] just vote
[00:46] ;_;
[00:47] as i told you there are 2 parts
[00:47] hard chise.
[00:47] fuck this shit
[00:47] NO Belarus
[00:47] choise
[00:47] im going to sleep
[00:47] and if BG remians in theese 2 parts
[00:47] there is vote between them
[00:47] so they cant vote
[00:47] they shouldnt be here
[00:47] guys
[00:47] and BG for now should be trial as well
[00:48] BG is full member
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