Fundraising for Germany
Koppanyi Ferenc
As you know, Germany is in hot water. They won the final battle against Poland - with a little joke it was Battle of Saarlingrad -, but the war in not over. The coutry has only one region with 1570 citizens. They need help. There is a discussion in the Congress to sign an MPP with Germany, but we can help also befor it. I donated e.g. some weapons and moving tickets to the Bundeswehr org. They wrote me: Jede Hilfe ist Willkommen (I think it's needless to translate).
Can we help? I created a topic in the forum, please post here, if you can.
http://nipponblog.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1579
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We can't help you, sorry.
so a pole tells a jap he can't help the jap help a german? 😃
Nic nie szkodzi!
I forgot to write: this is not official, just a civil initiative
I'm all for defending a country in need, but I will not act out of turn. President Kita Ikki has indicated very clearly he does not want private armies - I don't know if this extends to other private initiatives/donating - and being neutral in the conflicts of the Super-Alliances.
I think it is not an Phoenix vs Eden war. It started much earlier, as Phoenix or Eden would have existed. We were Germay's ally in the previous war too. And this is not a private army.
I do not support the creation of private militaries that operate independently of government directives. eGermany has had some bad times in the past, first from eSweden, then from ePoland. They offered what help they could in defense of our country in the past, I think it would be positive to reciprocate.
To reiterate, this is not an official request for help.
I'd like to see an official stance before a Congressman decides to help a member of a super-power in a war against one of our allies.
I think we should value the neutrality we have.
@President KITA -
You, our president, are saying we should act as individuals and act against our Ally Poland? Where is the neutrality that you touted and promised from your Campaign speeches?
Why publish this article in Japan when you know the answer is NO.
@Neon Seravee Actually, the President just said yes. I'm still looking for answers on to exactly why he gave his endorsement and is risking an MPP with Poland...
Very much awaiting an explanation as well. We had the discussion around the time of Kyushu2 when Poland first attacked, and back then it was dismissed.
Personally I think that participating in the war violates the neutrality towards the superalliances. So what if the war started when they were named Atlantis and PEACE GC? It's the same battle and the same countries but it is very much also a battle of today and goes alot beyond the old war - namely in that a lot of the general population of spain helped Germany in the old war, whereas they are no longer on the same side now. Also Germany is only part of the story. France is almost completely destroyed too.
I don't see any reason why spend time and money, helping Germany.
Sorry.
Thanks for your (personal) help!
U talk much about neutrality. Well back then many of our allies also said that they are neutral. Mainly the US and Spain. They dropped us in order to keep Sweden as an Ally.
Sorry but Japan isn't neutral. U opened the Gate for the US, which started the whole mess we are in now. The US attck binded a lot of Force which we would have needed to defend our lands.
Japan changed a lot since the last war between us and Poland. Sadly not to the better. Back then u were the first to help us, although u were in PEACE and we in ATLANTIS. Now u are just like the guys u opposed 🙁
Lifth, dont forget it was the government, I bet that there are of course some ppl who didnt like this decision, but yes it was really.... *cough...
Thanks for the Help mate(s), we wont forget it.
This isn't a war between Eden and Phoenix and it's never been.
It's a war between a huge aggressive Poland and a small peaceful Germany - 51.000 against 2.500!
It is a war against oppression and any help is much appreciated!
Thanks!
@Krevilo, fail. http://www.erepublik.com/en/wars/show/1425" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/wars/show/14[..]1425
Poland vs. Germany
no allies 9allies
"It's a war between a huge aggressive Poland and a small peaceful Germany - 51.000 against 2.500!"
XD
Yes, Yes ... small Germany with 9 MPP XD vs Poland with no allies !!
"It's a war between a huge aggressive Poland and a small peaceful Germany - 51.000 against 2.500!" propaganda
1. 51k vs 2.5k oh come on... we have bb. Most of our players starter after ePoland invaded eGermany and most of them don`t even have 5lvl
2. This smal peaceful eGermany did the same thing (a mean occupation of the eregions) in the (e)past... peaceful, yeah right...
3. nothing personal but You were the most easiest target from our neighbours and we needed that war
4. we both know (germans and poles) that we have tough past between. yeah i know - "don`t mix the rl with the erep"... but maybe its too recent to not mix it?... I don`t want to be missunderstood the WWII is the past and no matter what i think bout it - it`s the past and i don`t have hard feelings bout young germans like me.
ok enough of my silly texting
Germans! It`s a GAME so stop crying and spreading propaganda, instead of that get yourself together and play!
If we are in a state of neutrality we shouldn't get involved unless we are attacked.
And what of the Righteous Nation philosophy! We should help eGermany in the defense of its country. Why is it that it was righteous to let eUSA use Kyushu to "liberate" eAsia from the invaders, but it's not righteous to defend the eGermans who are about to lose their whole country? Shame on you all hypocrites!
Shut up.
Jede hilfe ist wilkommen means:Every help is welcome.
Germany shuould have lend one of his regions to Poland..their fault.
It's not our problem.
As president KITA highlighted, it is not an offical policy, the citizens can do whatever they want.
I agree with Zekrag , we shouldn't get our military involved on either side , but we should sell things like weapons/food to get gold necessary for eJapan to be economically strong for incoming module
"And what of the Righteous Nation philosophy! We should help eGermany in the defense of its country. Why is it that it was righteous to let eUSA use Kyushu to "liberate" eAsia from the invaders, but it's not righteous to defend the eGermans who are about to lose their whole country? Shame on you all hypocrites!"
It is President Kita Ikki's official policy to not get involved in the struggest between the super-alliances. If you want to condemn anything, condemn President Kita Ikki's new isolationist foreign policy.
I don't know about you guys, but I personally feel it's wrong to just let a country gets wiped out of erep map.
If we choose sides WE might get wiped from the map.
Letting the eUS through Kyushu a second time wasn't choosing a side? Adavek has put it best thus far.
Koppanyi we all know you're a Phoenix plant anyways after accepting Hungarian military into our country during election time. As a Congressman and a citizen of eJapan I would strongly urge us to stay out of this conflict.
Liquid, that was in the previous administration. Dokomo wasn't the one that instituted the isolationist policy. KITA Ikki was.
Also, you and others seem to forget there was an ultimatum in place. It's not Japan or Dokomo's fault that PHOENIX turned it down. They only have themselves to blame.
You can spout about how "PHOENIX would have never agreed to the ultimatum". Well, now you know the price of greed. Getting your ass handed to you.
"Letting the eUS through Kyushu a second time wasn't choosing a side? Adavek has put it best thus far."
Well,whats the point in saying we're going to be neutral if we are going to get involved in other counties wars?
Whoops, looks like this entire article is null and void because Germany has been wiped from the planet.
Better luck next time, Koppanyi.
> Lastly, I seem to recall KITA saying that he's NOT isolationist, he's neutral, which is a major defining fact against your argument.
Yeah the whole being neutral thing - I tried it in Denmark. It turns into one big pile of fear of stepping on neighbours toes and therefore develops into isolationism. No matter how we twist it we will never be completely neutral, because if any country we have an MPP with is attacked we will have the vast majority of 2-clickers defending that country thus interfering with a war thus throwing us off the path of neutrality.
You can say whatever you want but being completely neutral is impossible in this game unless strict isolationism is practised, or all the neighboring countries are also neutral, however that isn't exactly the case for Japan.
You have to admit, Yoshi, that there's a difference between being neutral in regards to superalliance politics and I say politics, but being opposed to their actions, especially in the context of what BOTH sides have done.
Besides, we're Malaysian. We make being neutral an art form, but that doesn't make us unlikely to help friends against PTOs, invasions, or retaining an open ear to even our less than friendly neighbors. Point being, I define true neutrality AS isolationism, however, our "brand" of neutrality is more of a policy of indifference towards the superalliances and their mentality...not our friends.
Again Liquid, how is Germany our friends?