Divide and Conquer - What Eden is doing in Belgium?
Von Seelard
EDEN seems to have switched to a new profile, and the "
😉efensive" part is being replaced by "Conquer you if we can". Spain wants to entertain her newborns, and it's really good.
They also make a fine example on how EDEN deals with neutrals. First France, now Italy. But we should look deeper into the abyss that is EDEN strategy to analise recent events, and draw some conclusions.
- EDEN is not as stupid as they want people to believe. The main figures of the alliance include such members as Shoot, the infamous secret agent, PTO-er of then-allied Germany, and Mistwalker, the talented Romanian troll and propagandist.
- Now look at the third alliance in Europe, the Entente. Ukraine, France, and Italy, was all once member states of PeaceGC.
- Italy quit after the Croat TO, for they were made to believe by powerful EDEN propaganda that their allies don't care about them. For example, Norway and Croatia was two pre-EDEN states to be TO'd, yet, they retained trust in their allies. EDEN propaganda could sway the subdued Italians away from PeaceGC with massive propaganda warfare.
- In Ukraine, the Romanian influence was always strong because of Podolia, and again, extensive propaganda made them to believe that PeaceGC is evil.
-France gone wild, and the alliance left her. Now these three misled nations united, and wanted only to stay out of trouble, as the propagandists of EDEN made them to believe they would.
And then, when they were all alone, EDEN started their military offensive, because they knew that Entente is weak without any major power helping them.
Use force. If failed, use sweet words and/or threats, and divide them. Then use force again.
It's nothing new, just a plain "divide and conquer", but Phoenix countries failed to find a way to counter that strategy so far.
History lesson:
In Ukraine's case, it was the same. Romania took Podolia by force. When Hungary drove off the Romanians, they made Ukrainians to believe that Hungary is their enemy, and when it was right time, Romania invaded again. Driven off again, they again started sweet-talking (Hungary was holding a strategic Ukrainian region) and propaganda almost reached their goal, and the PTO of Ukraine began anew. In their propaganda they were quite shameless (sebahmah writing about how he wants to save Ukraine when the only non-Ukrainian president candidate was him), but it seems to be working.
Fair warning:
The same is happening in Belgium right now, as EDEN propagandists and voters want to liberate Belgium... FROM THE BELGIANS!
The article uses EDEN and Phoenix instead of ATLANTIS and PeaceGC respectively, for the sake of simplicity.
/ Published by Von Seelard in eBelgium on day 780 of the New World /
Comments
Pertamax denied.
keduaxed
Another phoenix propaganda...
BTW - Why commanders of phoenix were banned 😉 ?
if the eden-phoenix conflict enters belgium we can say goodbye to our independence, thanks alot Von Seelard
They say aliances are born defensive and grow up to conquer the world. This applies to EDEN too.
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Noone should forget the roots: great players of the OFFENSIVE alliance of ATLANTIS are members of EDEN - a defensive alliance. What is suggested here is that alliances are playing against eachother. But there is news: that is not true.
Better to ask why they were unbanned. 'Cos they were banned unjustly at the first place 😛
Everyone is tired of yr propaganda Phoenix. There is no need for senseless punches between us here in Belgium 😉 Just help us build a normal, close to neutral country.
Says the Pole! 😃
Actually I'm of German descent 😃 but yes - I play here for Poland and if you haven't noticed I do not hide it or spread propaganda.
I said - "there is no need between 'us' " which means between EDEN and Phoenix.
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We have several countries to block/fight with UF or eventually Netherlands, so EDEN just doesn't need a puppet in this area, but Phoenix surely does 😉
That's enough, I haven't got all day and I don't want to legitimize your fairy tales with my words. Have a nice day 🙂
No need to, you already did, thanks! 🙂
You promise neutrality them, just like Italy, and then backstab them when the time is right. If you wanted a free and neutral Belgium, you only needed to do is to stay away, and let the Belgians decide. Fail.
Phoenix Pwned 😛
"you only needed to do is to stay away, and let the Belgians decide"
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You mean serbian Belgians, russian Belgians or maybe macedonian Belgians? 😃
The Belgians are evil, they want their own country ! What a horrible idea.
No, I mean Polish Belgians, US Belgians, Romanian Belgians, Croatian Belgians, Spanish Belgians, but why the hell I'm talking to you? Just look at the comment above yours and it really says it all. Eden came to "pwn" Belgium.
Hint: RL Belgians were leading the UNL, member state of Phoenix. You are just plain afraid that Belgium will side with their long-time ally Holland, and want to ensure that won't happen. Also, Poland cannot into Britain, so they need a puppet to stabilize their position in Western Europe.
Real Belgians are no Poles, Dutch, Croats, Romanian, French, German or whatsoever. Real Belgians are active for Belgian interest fist. Real Belgians do not follow Eden nor Phoenix orders. Real Belgians hate liberation by soldiers who came by foreign orders.
Now back to topic: Eden go home! Belgians are better of without you minding our business.
Real Belgians will come to the real life meeting on January 30th in Brussels. 14.00 hours, central station.
@Vol Seelard, I talk from Spain people, they finally did not come to Belgium to vote, because all this propaganda against spain,
yes, Usa army send soldier to vote in Belgium, but this soldiers think that they were helping belgium to avoid a pto.
Spain free Brusells, and Flanders, and they dont vote in congress to avoid this propaganda, so if you want to flame, ok, dont worry.
I cans ee that you are proPhoenix, ok it is good for you, but please, leave us alone in peace.
this is absurd, your country would not exist if not for Spain, and they respect your sovereignty, so, i say you again:
LEAVE Spain ALONE IN PEACE.
Spain do not wish to make you a PTO¡¡
Spain dont make you a PTO¡¡¡
And Spain could have make a PTO to Belgium without problems.
Les belges voulaient conduire la destinée de leur pays.
Les Us, polonais et autres guignols en ont décidés autrement...
La honte sur EDEN, honte sur les US, honte sur l Espagne, honte sur la Pologne, honte sur la Croatie....Ce sont des voleurs de pays !!!
Vive la Belgique libre ! Bfb ne baissera jamais les bras !
Blackshark, un vrai belge
In this game, if you are "neutral", means only and only one thing, your country has absolutely NO strategic AND economical AND military power. If our country stuck between an EDEN and a PHOENIX country, man you ARE screwed 😃 If you have high iron and low population, man you are screwed. If you are the biggest military power in the worl😛 man, you have to screw, or someone will screw ya 😃
So fellow Belgians: As long as Poland and Spain is around your borders, you have to accept the fact that you have important STRATEGIC value. If Phoenix will not get ya, EDEN will. And it's gonna hurt. A lot. Either way. You just have to choose sides.
Regards, mzperix
PHOENIX become a Defensive alliance, EDEN began to build their hell by pushing on the offensive. "And the wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round..."
This game is about war, so if one alliance "wins" (as if there is winning in this game), on the second the other gets on the positive edge. Guess what would happen if the two alliance would become one? I think most people would quit playing 😃 Not me, I have a lot of turmoil in my RL, so I would be happy 😃
"The Belgians are evil, they want their own country ! What a horrible idea."
No they don't, they spent the last year married to the Netherlands, a Phoenix country I might add. Fair game is fair.
Fundusz Frosta: Because admins are supporting EDEN 🙂
Aeros: And they spent it PTOd by EDEN, mainly Romania, that's your fair game.
Belgium has weapons of mass destruction. Therefore we must rape their lands for the next 8 years.
On avait pas le choix de se trouver avec les Pays Bas !
Tur😛 I didn't want to run that joke myself. But as you've already mentioned it. They probably are harboring terrorists as well, aren't they? 😉
You Fail!
So people from Eden came to Belgian to rescue us from Phoenix PTO, and people from Phoenix came to rescue us from Eden PTO.
You're just going to keep accusing each other of the same things over and over again... You can spam the same shit all you want, it's not like you're ever going to persuade the other side that you're the only one telling the truth.
In any case, Eden rescued us from our national treasury before, and we willingly joined a pro-Phoenix country before (we willingly merged Belgium with the Netherlands. I don't understand why we need to be rescued from something we wanted ourselves).
All I can see Eden do is attacking us and trying to justify it. Of course I can see the geographical value of Belgium (and a maybe less significant economical value), and I understand you crush threats when you can, but atleast don't lie about it. It's insulting.
Niemand, it's not at North Station?
In any case... Phoenix is here to keep Eden out of Belgium.
We know that (now) Phoenix will not attack Belgium and try to PTO Belgium because... officialy, Belgium is part of EUnited Netherlands, and EUNL is member of Phoenix.
The president of Eunl is a... Belgian, member of the first party of EUnl, the Belgian Party.
So, Phoenix just can't attack or PTO Belgium.
But Eden... it's not the same way...
We're gonna free the shit out of you, and the eUK.
You gona killed all pro-eden in our land?
Thanks a lot!