Keeping it Real - The Ethical Quandaries of Gnilraps.
chickensguys
I did not enjoy writing this article. Indeed I had great difficulty doing so and not because this piece was challenging to write or difficult but because this topic will have a whole slew of passionate people on both sides. In recent years, it has been my goal to get along amicably with the members of our community. We are not the large sprawling community of 5,000 voices we once were. We are a small and perhaps even shrinking community and preventing this place from becoming toxic should be our primary goal. That doesn’t mean we cannot have fun or have rivalries. But ethics and honesty must remain at the forefront.
So, I will ask one thing of my readers, please check the partisan rancor at the door and look at these facts as good and decent people. Set aside your biases.
Honesty and good faith.
At the end of the day all we can do is keep it real. We do this by being honest with ourselves and with others. We do this by conducting ourselves with integrity. Keeping it real is something Gnilraps has struggled with since his return to the game. Let’s take this very simple interaction.
Beef with Dom.
While I appreciate the fact Gnilraps, in his last few articles, stopped talking to himself using his own accounts to generate interest. He is still using his war bots to upvote his content but more on that later. Focusing on the content of what Trite said is paramount. I believe he is entirely correct, Gnilraps hates Dominar a lot for outing him as Krapis and for Dominar’s constant war on bots. This has gained Dominar the ire and hate of Gnilraps and his ardent defenders. Everytime someone supports attacking Dominar on this issue, they are essentially covering for one big lie. It’s just designed to discredit Dominar and hide the truth. Returning to the above image, look at how Gnilraps responds to Trite, “ohai george”, it’s demeaning and rude, addresses none of his points and it’s designed to discount everything he said.
Upvoting his own content with bots.
In the same article we have this gem. Gnilraps using three of his accounts to upvote his post. This is one of the least egregious examples. Nonetheless it is so deceptive, and so dishonest. Going back through his articles you can find his bots endorsing his articles and even having full on conversations with each other. This above image is from his article 30 days ago, when Gnilraps announced his return.
Here he is commenting as Krampis post-name change on an article he wrote as Gnilraps. What sort of person would ever do this. It’s misleading, dishonest and unnecessary. It destroys what little trust can exist between players.
Endorsing his own articles with bots.
Here he is endorsing his own articles alongside Plato. Buying packs does indeed grant immunity,
Talking to himself.
During the Krapis Presidency, here he was talking to himself. I wish it ended it here, I truly do.
506.
Efforts to turn the 506 into a t5 party have been underway since the middle of 2020. I discussed with Gnilraps during the first or second week of my Presidency about the importance of building trust in the community and leaving the BSP alone. After claiming his innocence I sent him various logs and account ids. He finally accepted involvement and agreed to remove the bots. To his credit, he in fact did do just that. But less than 30 days later, the same T6 party underwent another change. This time the bots were not present but the goals were the same. Whether the goal is designed to boot the BSP from the t5 as it was initially planned or just designed to punish DMJ and company for opposing large scale bot usage, I remain unsure. If Gnilraps’s goal was not to boot anyone he would have just run as PP in the USWP and won. But he joined Deepchill and leveraged his connections in Easy Company, and is attempting to boot a t5 party. Either way his goal is to boot one of the parties that opposed him and his usage of bots.
Stealing from Clopo.
Clopoyaur, can probably go without an introduction. He is a known streamer who has given away millions of CC to the community. After Gnilraps returned he made fake twitch accounts for his bot accounts, entered Clopoyaur’s pyramid giveaway and won the main 2 million dollar prize. Fraudulently increasing his odds and winning the main prize with a bot.
Doxing of Maryam and Norm.
For this one the title says it all. I will not be sharing the photo or what was said. I will simply say that it was at this moment that everyone in the room knew something was terribly wrong. It goes without saying that you don’t share real life photos of other players. And you certainly don’t do it at their expense and give commentary on their real life situation. Everyone left this conversation in utter disbelief.
The Gnilraps Appeal - With great power comes great responsibility.
This axiom is rather poignant. If you play this game and plan to disregard the TOS at least have the self awareness to know you are not the only person playing. Let other people enjoy the game and be fair and decent.
I have spoken privately with many individuals about my moral and ethical concerns regards Gnilraps and received several responses. Some of his proponents say he means well or his intentions are good. So his behavior deserves a pass. Others see Gnilraps as a long term tank defending eUSA interests. So his behavior deserves a pass. Other players have bots and no one complains about them. So his behavior deserves a pass. Some are just happy to get the occasional pack from him. So his behavior deserves a pass. Others say he just doesn’t deserve to be attacked at all, somehow implying he resides above criticism and is beyond reproach. So his behavior deserves a pass.
Doing the right thing is not often easy. My only regret was not writing this article sooner. That will always be on me. Nonetheless, his behavior does not deserve a pass.
Signed,
Chickensguys
Comments
I will definitely vote for chickensguys! o7
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interesting if all true.. RL info is real scumbag sh@t
I would have to hear this story from TheNorm and Maryam. Though I don't know the whole story the same was done to Gnilraps so I doubt he would do it to others.
You know he wrote several years ago an article glorifying meeting that couple ... later when they served no good purpose, it seems he through them under the bus got in and drove bus over them himself ...
I take things with a grain of salt, so when GnilKrap portrays a horrible home life and needs eRep to be more pleasant to balance his meager existence, I do not believe his wife is THAT bad, but when GnilKrap continually treats everything with such disdain ...
The sad thing is you actually missed some of the bots he used to comment on his own articles. That being said, this article underscores the overall problem besetting the eUS for some time: gnilkrap has obvious mental issues, and gnilkrap has an inordinate amount of influence on the eUS. The people who slavishly follow him ought to stop doing it and urge him to seek some therapy, if they actually care about him at all besides as some sort of cash machine whose foibles also serve as incidental entertainment.
Isn't the #5 Party USWP? If so then how is the goal to boot BSP from T5?
And in any case anything wrong with a party trying to be in the top 5?
And as far as violating TOS what did Dominar do to get a ban from Plato? Assumption is he violated the TOS.
Huh? I wasn't banned.
Per your history on https://erepublik.tools/en/society/citizen/8482827 you were banned in January 2019 - So which should I believe?
fake news
At the time of the initial surge in the (at the time) EZCA/Mandalorian Party, BSP was in the 5th slot. They had a surge of people moving in that pushed them over USWP. I assume that's the timing he's referring to.
the 'script bot scheme' off broadway online musical farce opening songs' verse
yell low before those to be plundered hear
yell low for it is too soon to cheer
The hypocrisy of citing ethics. xD
is that a Tom Waits lyric?
so what is it when GnilKrap ask me to stop with one particular RL theme of trolling him and I agree too? ethics maybe, now true hypo-ing is your pen pal (read the part about doxing and then what he asked of me again)
Tritrekker sent two messages to one left comment
plus he lied about donating more money to me 🙁
Since you are not going to leave the full context, I am not going to engage any further. Take care. o7
the full context was I donated a small amount of cc several times to gauge your activity with this account, finally you responded with a gold donation which I immediately refused, after which (this article and my response to your comment) you PMed me with something about enjoying the cc for gold non-swap. Your PM was in the context that I had not yet refuse your donation - see the part about gauging activity - since saying goodbye you donated 3 more gold - thank you - accepted! Keep it up, please!
That's closer to the context, thank you. That also explains the random donations (which I have never been the greedy type to accept random money, ask any number of people who have tried that over the years. So that approach is inherently flawed)
But you are still leaving stuff out. That's okay, I get it does not fit your narrative. Let me expound, with proof.
First, I didn't "finally" respond with one gold donation, that you immediately declined. I sent more than one. I sent on each time that my prior donation expired. Two of them came back.
Secondly, you still are not giving full context, so allow me, since you started down this road.
https://ibb.co/31mb626
https://ibb.co/HTDGcjm
https://ibb.co/ZL0GGsb
Your donations to me, my donations that returned to me. And the apology message I sent, along with my mention of the game, and your response blasting me as a liar when I went to bed before sending more money. 🙂
does all followers of GnilKrap follow so precisely?
I said it before and I will say it again, Chickensguys for CP!!!
“upvote his post”???
oh noes. I’ve been outed as Gnilraps too
You wish ..
Not really. It was meant to poke fun at the situation
There is one answer only: you are Gnilraps bot too.
Probably we are all Gnilraps bots!
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Sadly this isn't even everything, although it does introduce some new information that has not been exposed before.
There are people who are adversaries in this "game", but I truly believe this guy has RL issues and he needs professional help for them. It's not normal or sane behavior by any stretch when you add all of the many, many things together.
But as I said in one of the screenshots, and I hope I am wrong, but my hunch is next month if chicken isn't in the race Gnil seizes the moment and goes hard for CP... and things are going to get real ugly if people back someone of such low character.
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The timing of this article is suspect.
Feeling a little heat for your re-election eh chicken?
Your actions are so transparent and predictable.
And of course, your number one fluffer is right on cue.
This is some really low sh*t from you.
Just when I thought you could not sink things lower in the gutter.
What a sad little scene this is.
Lol!
Not as lownas leaking cp confidential documents..
Never happened groot, we both know it.
Find a new game to come at me punk.
you have grown quite boring with this crap.
Another thing groot the feeble,
Prove my above statements wrong.
Come on big boy come at me head to head you cowardy incel.
Demy all you want but you most definitely cost a re election ton AA when you leaked his agenda on day 1 ofnhis presidency...
Lol,
Keep diverting groot.
Wow you really are a cowardly little rw ahole.
Typical.
F it, you are not worth it
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If the timing is your main concern you should reevaluate your ethics
Remeber he is not running agianst Gnilraps...
Really??
Thank you for your great insight.
I never mentioned Gnilraps, did I?
You tell me oh wise one.
Man your attitude is do terrible. I hope good things happen to you do you will be more positive
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My attitude will greatly improve when toxic people like groot leave. Unless of course, you think groot is "fine people"
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Also, why should we believe you on your accusations he gave RL photos and information if you don’t prove it?
Don't believe him, dig deeper and tell us your findings
Or he’s lying about it and it never happened. Burden of proof is on him
Many people were in the chat room where it happened. They all can corroborate, including me .
Hearsay isn’t proof. Show us something or it didn’t happen
problem with the doxxing thing or whatever it is called . 1. where did he get information. (sometimes people share their personal info with you - i never share it with others but sometimes their quite public when sharing rl info)
2. if this is outside of erepublik this is of no concern to us you should address it to the forum where it was placed.
other than that this also seems very old cows being dug up. for example i could find the article where plato endorsed.
have you proof that his so called bots is bots or even that gnilraps has still the same account holder(i think he once admitted that he only log in to write articles)
other than that seems us community still have massive drama. we dont anymore except some people that dont understand you dont attack any player in a small community.
I am hoping Maryam and Norm post on this. I am told he posted a picture with permission.