Happy Birthday NATO!
George Barker
When I was a kid I used to look forward to a time when an organization like NATO would be obsolete.
But...
MARIUPOL:
It appears that time is a long ways into the future -- if, indeed, we will ever get there. Until then, I'm grateful we have NATO around. Flaws and all, it's far better than the alternative.
NATO: keeping and growing the peace since April 4, 1949.
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God bless NATO,
God bless America!
God Bless America! God Save NATO and Europe!
04.04.1999.
Thank you for bombing the TELEVISION BUILDING!
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Journalists are a great threat to the NATO pact!
You are welcome! If you want a repeat, try ethnically cleansing Kosovo again!
There was no genocide in Kosovo, which has been proven. Just as Iraq did not have nuclear weapons. You kill everyone just to get rich.
And you committed the GENOCIDE over the Indians, keep them in RESERVES!
https://www.britannica.com/event/Kosovo-conflict History disagrees with your version of events. And you are delusional: who gets rich from stopping one of the poorest countries in Europe from committing ethnic cleansing on another of the poorest countries in Europe? How does that even make sense?
You live on another continent and you teach me what happened in my country?
The killed "Albanian civilians" were in fact KLA soldiers, dressed by Albanians in civilian clothes.
There was genocide, but against Serbs. Serbs are not allowed to return to Kosovo, those who did not leave live in enclaves (if you know what that is).
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=veNNiJnaAxU
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OojS5a3xslM
Are you fighting for this, for burning Orthodox churches, expelling the population?
Welcome to the real world.
So because you live in Serbia history, the UN, the ICT are all wrong. Trust YOU because, after all, YOU live in Serbia. And yet there were plenty of people who lived and live in Kosovo and attested to what happened. Why not trust THEM? They really were there, rather than sitting at home absorbing Serbian propaganda.
Oh my God, so I showed you the footage !!!
There is no international verdict for the events in Racak (and that was the reason for the NATO aggression on my country).
You celebrate that they bombed the television building, killed civilians, tore down bridges.
I give you evidence, you empty words ... And then it's Serbian propaganda.
Do you ever light candles for the Indians you killed and expelled from their land?
You showed me some pictures of a bombed building, and that proves ethnic cleansing in Kosovo didn't happen? Like the bit about "getting rich," the logic isn't there.
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I don't think its so much ethnic cleansing as it is that he is directly targeting bio-weapons labs so there is not a repeat of covid or something worse in Russia. U.S. intelligence shows that the us was going to use them to directly attack Russia. you better believe I would not give two shits attacking my neighbor if they were planning to use bio-weapons against me.
Orbán agreed to the bombings.
He is now a friend of Vučić and Putin...
Because Vucic does not care if people in Serbia have also hungarian passports and he want also part of Ukraine to became Hungary since he does not accept Trianon and want big Hungary again
You welcome. Thanks for destruction of Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo...
If you are so sore about one civilian building unfortunately being hit by Nato, shouldn't you (and I mean you personally and Serrbia as a whole) be the most outspoken opponents of Russia's actions in Ukraine. They are doing exactly that, on porpose, about a hundred times a day by indiscriminately shelling the sh** out of Ukrainian cities with their artillery.
I mean what s*hole country still uses artillery in the 21st century?
there was no genoci in Kosovo ?
tell me who killed over 1300 childrens during 98/99
tell me who commited Masacre of Likoshan & Cirez (26 deaths)
tell me who commited Masacre of Obri e Madhe "Gornje Obrie" (21 deaths)
tell me who commited Masacre of Recak (45 deaths)
tell me who grenaded bazaar of Mitrovica (6 deaths)
tell me who commited Masacre of Krushe e madhe "Velika Krusha" (100 deaths)
tell me who commited Masacre of Bellacerke "Bela Crkva" (58 deaths)
tell me who commited Masacre of Suhareka & Izbica (143 deaths)
tell me who commited Masacre of Rezalle (80 deaths)
Poklek masacre (47 deahts)
Cikatovo (24)
Vushtrri "Vucitern" (120)
Dubrava Prison (80)
the list goes on and on.
Do u even believe ur self when u say that there was no MASS MASACRES, that there was ne genocide ?
I'm sure u saw the war only by TV, otherwise u wouldnt make such a dissgraceful comment.
I wont wish u the same that me and my family went through 98/99's, but I wish u were in my place during that time.
I rarely comment about Real Life things. because this is just a game where I'm supposed to have fun and spend my free time without dealing with real life shit which we all live everyday 🙂
NATO when the Soviet Union Fell : https://youtu.be/nB4_f0uXMo4
And now : "Ah sheeeeet, here we go again."
American peace = Pax Romana.
With all its pros and cons.
Rome conquered. America hasn't conquered anything in over 100 years. And even that was small stuff, most of which we gave back, like the Philippines and Cuba. Rome never gave anything back unless it was at sword point. It's tempting to look at all dominant countries as the same, but they aren't. The U.S. has flaws, has made mistakes, and will in the future. It is also the best dominant country the world has seen. And looking around, better than any of its current would-be competitors. Would you prefer "Pax-Americana" or "Pax-China"? Would the world have been better if someone was writing an article celebrating the birthday of the Warsaw Pact?
Hey JBJ, so long no see, how are you?
God bless NATO
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Putin is just dying to test NATO. Literally
Those buildings burned down because Molotov cocktails caught fire. They didn't store them properly.
I heard it was Godzilla that did it.
I heard it was Daenerys Targaryen's dragons
Space lasers.
You don't understand because you don't think with your brain. When civilians make Molotov cocktails at the invitation of their president, then they are no longer civilians but legitimate targets ......
OK, so it was Molotov cocktails that caught fire, but civilians were legitimate targets because their president invited them to make Molotov cocktails. That makes sense to you, when you are thinking with your brain.
Those buildings burned down because Molotov cocktails caught fire. They didn't store them properly.
lol.
You honestly believe this.
My god that is the result of high explosives not badly stored Molotov Cocktails.
The brainwashing is strong in you.
Molotov cocktails are not high explosives but you knew that.
Kep sucking at the poisoned teet of Russia and remain in the third world with them.
What happened in Bucha Ukraine is fake as well right?
Russian "soldiers" and I use that term lightly would never commit atrocities like that right?
Not that horde of a poorly trained, poorly led gang of murderers, rapists, and thieves.
You don't understand because you don't think with your brain. When civilians make Molotov cocktails at the invitation of their president, then they are no longer civilians but legitimate targets ......
He is just a troll...
No, it was aliens...
You don't understand because you don't think with your brain. When civilians make Molotov cocktails at the invitation of their president, then they are no longer civilians but legitimate targets ......
Yes, I understand, that's why NATO bomb Serbia back in 1999, every house had some weapons so it is was fully legit...
yes
Long live NATO
NATO is (arguably) the main reason Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, Poland are free and not under Russian occupation.
Also the sole reason Kosovo and Bosnia still exist
I can't help but wonder would Russia dare to attack Ukraine, if the latter was a NATO member. Probably not.
I don't think they would even consider attacking Ukraine. It's my belief that any country with nuclear weapons or NATO membership is safe from invasion. Ukraine has neither due to bad politicians in the past :/
Because bad international politicians. Both, Russia and USA did not want Ukraine to be nuclear power for different reasons.On the end USA decided, they had the money what Russia and Ukraine did needed desperately at this time. IN 2008 was Merkel who did refuse NATO membership of Ukraine do keep good relation to Putin
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Things to think about before cheering on the most murderous and blood-thirsty ideological and military/geo-political alliance in the history of the world :
- NATO is financed by it`s members/countries. Most of the NATO members are in EU/Europe. Europe`s economies are in a state of inevitable collapse, since there are forces in and outside of those countries that are pushing 'Green agenda', which is a 'pipe dream'. Let`s also avoid for a moment very dark and sinister plans behind it and pretend that it`s something to look forward to/being a good thing for 'humanity'.
It`s expensive, so much so that it could bankrupt even the most prosperous countries by 'going green'. Germany as powerhouse stopped importing gas from Russia, halted it`s nuclear power plants, and also allocated $100 billion to it`s army in the midst of it all, pressured by NATO and USA to do so. And being a wellfare state you can imagine how much impact could that have on the population depended on it etc. It requires technological solutions which don`t even exist or aren`t even in developmental phases. That`s why they are costly, becuse they need tons of money to invent solution, test it, thought out all of the downsides of it, make it as 'green' as possible, and as cheap as possible, from materials that aren`t even created/exploited yet and that could take year(s) or beyond.
Right now, EU/NATO countries, including USA, are struggling with inflation, gas prices are up, food prices up and even some food shortages are visible, insane house prices, food and essential goods are being halted from export, supply chains have problems operating since oil and gas prices are up, but also there`s a political pressure by USA and most of NATO members to avoid trading goods with Russia by imposing sanctions on that country, but also EU economy is depended on Russia`s partner - China, which rejects all pressure especially by the USA to be dictated what to do and how to behave.
Economical factors/stability and growth are crucial in keeping NATO`s infrastructure and 'commitment'/existence to remain well-oiled global hegemon. And right now, not a single NATO member is doing well, growth is non-existent, and not only that, but spendings on fighting the inflation and keeping essential goods and food available to it`s populations are stretched far and wide by a 'green agenda' and fighting 'climate change'.
Also, NATO member countries are being flooded with endless immigration, and not only that, but they are required to not only maintan existing wellfare system but to expand it, to provide food, clothing and shelter + education, and if that wasn`t bad enough, those that are coming aren`t, let`s just say, 'NATO friendly' demographics, since they are coming from countries that NATO/USA/EU bombed or destroyed their countries, overtly by force, or covertly by regime change and economic sanctions ( Lybia, Iraq, Syria... ), so they aren`t exactly coming to 'fight for NATO and democracy', for which they are the least interested in maintaining, not to mention that they are 90% male.
Biden's Climate Tsar John Kerry on migration said recently: "Wait until you see 100 million people for whom the entire food production capacity has collapsed." - look it up.
So, with all this being said :
-What`s the future of the NATO?
-Who will and why join an army for which they don`t have any interests in fighting for, and against whom, with money being only motivator?
The money that is effectively running out and is being de-valued since the USA keeps printing it and running it to the ground? 'De-dollarization' is in the process, since Russia, China and India already are bypassing/setting up/connecting their own payment processors so they can avoid financial sanctions being imposed on them and to also continue trading in the future without any interuption.
- In order for NATO to function, it needs not only money, but the membering countries and it`s citizens need stability and economic growth, and right now, they are forced to choose, between keeping an alliance going by instilling fear in their population that something might happen to them, via alliance outlets, mainstream media propaganda and social networks and their elected/unelected representatives in gov/EU parlament or keeping standards of living acceptable so that they can avoid social chaos/implosion or demonstrations against their own governments for failing to provide affordable food, goods and services etc.
Also, how can military alliance remain supreme, and develop further their next generation weaponry and systems it uses? Where will the development money come from if present concerns aren`t being addressed by anyone...? What are we witnessing right now...i wonder. These are probably some really 'red/black pills' to swallow for you...
Thank you for sharing your deep knowledge and forecasting ability. All that being said, if the West is, as you claim, "collapsing," what is happening in other countries? The Western economies dwarf all others by quite a bit. Are the other economies already collapsed? Or have they somehow unlocked a secret key to growth, and will soon surpass the West? What is that key, since you seem to know everything else?
"Europe`s economies are in a state of inevitable collapse"
thank you for telling me you know nothing about economics and thus I can ignore the rest of this proust-length post in the first sentence
dammit I read the rest of it
you have literally no understanding of how money works or how immigration works. it's not worth refuting because most of what you wrote is just evidently wrong ("The money that is effectively running out" is hilarious)
but the funniest part is you describing John Kerry as "Biden's Climate Tsar". It's almost like you don't actually know anything about American politics....weird
You aren`t really paying attention as to what is going on, do you or how it`s related? It seems that you`re thinking just like Biden`s SCOTUS nominee Ketanji Brown Jackson ( pedo 'enabler'/friendly ), and now her infamous reply: 'i`m not a biologist', when asked simple question 'what is a woman'.
There are plenty of people that are wealthy without a degree in almost anything, especially in economics, and those that have one, yet are barely scrapping by. Besides, those economic principles you`re talking about don`t mean absolutely anything, if the forces running the show are corrupt, motivated by greed or ideologies/agendas, well versed in manipulating markets/players by which they can target specific industries in specific countries/regions they wish to obtain control over (known as 'shock therapy').
And since you mentioned immigration, without being precise about why/what i don`t know exactly about, but also being tied to paragraph above (economy), have you heard of 'push and pull' factors? 'Push' factor being the reason someone leaving his current location/place of birth and moving to another region, and 'Pull' factor is when certain region is more 'attractive' or made such so it creates those that want to move in, which can be observed right now. Nothing what we see is without reason/explanation and certainly no coincidence.
Southern USA border is wide open, there`s no limit to number, almost no background check, no specification who is let in or why, no limit to how many relatives can they claim so as to remain 'linked' and thus let in all together. So, USA is still percieved as a 'pull' factor, even if that`s laughable at this point, but the thing is, there are areas in Latin America, which are now becoming 'push' factor, and desolate, meaning probably only those who weren`t able to move were left behind - oldest ones. Will there be any doctors left, or if they earn by selling what they grow, to whom will they sold that to, in order to pay for other goods, and when they die, who`ll provide and organize their funerals?
Now, there`s also something peculiar about US immigration policy, the preference is given to everyone, above European, and those passing the Act decades ago were quite specific about it.
When it comes to Europe, which is a mess, and specifically Southern eastern Europe, there are numerous cases of local contractors denying local workers decent wages, and choosing to give jobs to those from Sri Lanka or India who work for less. Also, foreign companies bringing in cheapest labor, denying wages/jobs to locals, forcing them to request less and work more, but also those that came are now unavailable workforce in their countries of origin.
As for John Kerry, not sure why it`s funny to you, since he is U.S. special presidential envoy for climate that said that during the annual CERAWeek conference in Houston, and btw, i haven`t named him that, Fox News did in their article on the subject of 'climate change', and i didn`t even bothered to refer to him differently. Now, if you knew what/who he is, why would that be the funniest part to you? Weird indeed...
I have graduate training in economics. I am doing fine
also just because I think all of your wild economic assertions are bogus you are obliquely accusing me of enabling pedophelia? lmao
pathetic
also jesus,
the Kerry bit is funny because Kerry is extremely well known for his service as a Senator and Secretary of State, credentialing him as climate tsar is funny because it kind of makes it seem like you only know who he is from whatever Fox article you're talking about....wEiRd
I can be precise about the scope of your ignorance on immigration if that's what you want:
"Southern USA border is wide open" This is completely untrue. "Now, there`s also something peculiar about US immigration policy, the preference is given to everyone, above European" lmao this is also not true. "Also, foreign companies bringing in cheapest labor, denying wages/jobs to locals, forcing them to request less and work more" See Card (1990) for empirical evidence as to why this isn't usually how this works. Increased immigration increases labor supply but it also increases demand
You are a walking commenting spout of regurgitated misinformation. Find a better hobby.
He's a Serb nationalist. They get their information from outlets that make Fox look respectable, and when they don't have information (which is often) they will just make stuff up (as he does here) to confirm their worldview. Their opinions are always fact -- always. Had I actually looked at who he is I wouldn't have even bothered with a sarcastic reply.