HOPEless shame
Jarabe de Patu
Taking note of the continuous and massive immigration implemented by the HOPE party(as usual when elections approach) and the absence of reforms that had been announced, all the staff of this newspaper will no longer vote on any bill promulgated by the current government until the issue is discussed in parliament and set up clear and precise rules for all through an immigration consultative process.
La Graticola's staff.
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The erepublik admin of ATO is working well 🤭
Are you joking?
And here I thought we were over this already. Do you have any proof of corruption from that moderator (not admin)? If so, talk to the admins, if not, stop the slandering and lies. Pathetic, just like your CP.
Basically, our party member's writing style is not different from ATO's but erepublik admins are banning our members but not yours.
Care to explain how the writing style affects if one has multies or not?
All right then, keep your secrets.
You migrated to Belgium yourself a few weeks back. You must be the bigest hypocrite in Erepublik. LOL
Go back to sleep as you have done so far.
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Who is your staff buddy? Do you have a bull pen where they sit working all day? What are the benefits, is dental included?
Oh, and yeah, go show yourself the front door as you are moaning against the very program that brought you here.
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If there had been a safe immigration program, unlike your comrades, I certainly wouldn't have had any problems. Always unlike your fellow immigrants, I'm online every day, I created and proposed a whole program for newcomers and social aid, I fight every day and I constantly publish articles that your mates don't even bother to read because they're just never online or they don't give a shit about me, you and the game.
I realized just yet that Italian is the official language in Belgium right?
I would like the one who wrote that "article" to step up and put his real name, its not a good thing to use some unknown user to publish this kind of nonsense. Of course its not ok to accept it, but dignity its scarce
you do not understand what you are asking. My real name?
1) Belgium has quite a significant Italian community stemming from mining and industrial migration.
2) eRepublik is a worldwide game, one that many players all around the world play. Language doesn't matter, especially not what language he plays in. The fact you are pushing him out because of the fact he plays the game in italian is quite sad indeed.
3) You, a nameless face on the Internet, asking for a players real name? COme on, first it would be against the Terms of Service, ask the CP, she knows exactly what happens, hint temp-ban. Second, it has no importance to this matter what his real name is. You know who wrote the article, his player name is there and is the only thing that matters. Stop with the pseudo-crap, I don't understand what HOPE wants with all this personal information.
I couldnt care less about his RL name. I mean, he obviously wasnt the one with the idea to write the article, Im not sure yet if he is the multi of that user or he has no dignity and post what others sends him to say.
The problem its not that he is Italian, the problem is that he is critizicing inmigration being an inmigrant! If in your party that kind of hypocresy is rewarded with seats in congress, you should not be such a drama queen while misunderstanding my comment, but look into your own party.
I can assure you he is not a multi, you may be confusing him with Heisenberg, the guy in the article. Honestly, he can criticize whoever he wants, just because he is an immigrant doesn't mean he can't form an opinion on how immigration should work. I reckon by your logic, as an eBelgian I can't criticize eBelgium, otherwise I'd be a hypocrite. Or wait, I can't criticize eBelgium when I'm a foreigner because then I'm also a hypocrite. So when am I not a hypocrite in your eyes? Oh yeah, if I keep my mouth shut and just accept all your crap. Gotcha.
But hey, let me ask you a question. Maybe you should look into your own party that elects a liar as CP, who also got temp-banned for failing to understand the ToS. Also a person who failed to understand how orgs work. Also the party that recently accepted a player that, surprise, got temp-banned for usage of multiple accounts. Maybe just maybe it would be good and healthy for you to lay of off your conspiracy pills for once and get back to reality. Nobody is conspiring against you, you are just dealing with people who are not capable of running a government after claiming for years they could do much much better. It's been now 2 weeks and nothing has changed. Wake up sheeple, your change was a lie.
You and the author have at most 1 month in the country (like me) the author itself had his CS approved by a HOPE member. He used the same procedure that he is now attacking so much.
What he says its not supported by his actions.
I cant see how you "assuring me" that he is not a multi has any value about if he is a multi or not.
The article itself its a sad attemp to create a lame conspiracy theory, I dont believe in that kind of things, like the one the author is trying to make us believe (and it had an obvious effect on you)
4 years in government, never explained to the citizenship why the impeachment was proposed and accepted, and now you are saying "2 weeks and nothing has changed". Seems like my ato friends suddenly wants change in 2 weeks. It seems that loss of power makes you very anxious!
Another little detail, read what our friend Jarabe de Patu wrote in this article "Taking note of the continuous and massive immigration implemented by the HOPE party(as usual when elections approach)"
As usual when elections approach? He has one month in the country and in this newspaper he said some weeks ago that he didnt know about eBelgium politics
Its fun that he says "as usual" when he is new in the country and he himself said he wasnt into eBelgium politics until a couple of weeks ago.
If he is not a multi, someone else is writing the articles and he is only the publisher.
@caribo
this is the second time I have faced the elections and HOPE has had the same approach: Immigration without control just to have the numbers to have at all costs a power that you are not able to manage.
1 month is more than enough to understand who you are and above all what you "don't represent" because you don't have a shred of an idea.
Come on! if you are going to lie, do it with something that cant be checked so easy! You are not helping yourself. There was only 1 national election since you are in eBelgium (Congress elecions December 25). The last two CS approved before the elections were given by ATO congress members. The last HOPE CS approved before election day was December 14, so, more than 10 days before elections
So, "when elections approach" there were 2 CS approvec, both by ATO members.
Im not sure if this is sad or fun
Hey conspirator wake up!
I already voted in the last presidential election and I'm about to vote for the second time. What's your problem? The fact that I can express an opinion?
At least I have one and I express it by writing in my newspaper, which seems to be a tool you never use, especially in Belgium.
So you, who by what right do you criticize someone who tries to do what you should too?
Go back to the anonymity you were in or go write for the Brazilian press that seems to worry you more than the Belgian one.
Haha again with "conspirator" I used arguments to show you that in the last 10 days before de congress elections not even 1 CS was given by a HOPE Congressmen, and you say that I have a problem with your opinion
You have a problem with facts, you are writing something in the newspaper that you can check its wrong, and instead of recognizing your mistake, you get mad.
Brazilian Press? See? you have a real problem with facts.
Lets keep it simple, in the CS page you can see and check for youself what I said, which contradicts your opinion in the article. The facts, that are public, says otherwise.
You are entitled to your own opinion, but not to your own facts.
Be a man and recognize your mistake
Be a man and write articles too if you want to give your opinion and start contributing as a citizen.
Because so far your words and your empty newspaper say that as a citizen you are devoid of ideas, common sense and not productive.
Ok, you insist in not recognizing your mistake, which was shown its incorrect.
Now you are trying to attack me. You were so jealous of your right to opinion (which I support fully), but when I give my opinion you get so mad.
If you cant recognize what is in front of your eyes, its pointless to keep a conversation. We all make mistakes, but normal people recognize them, they dont try to cover them up when its obvious, thats sad.
To show there is no hard feelings I sent you a friendship request 😉 Good luck
Okay, so you wrote an endless wall of text with nothing of value. Gotcha.
1) I've been in this country for the better part of my eLife, specifically since 2012 with three stays abroad, once in the UK, once in Norway (both a mere month) as well as my longest stay outside in the USA, but that's mostly because I eDied there a few months after I got there. So spare me the "I'm a new immigrant schtick".
2) Your party, including the CP (who is a member of your party too) have called for ages that there's a giant conspiracy against them. In this very article, your members are again insinuating that somehow moderators of the game are corrupt without any evidence. In the mean time, one of your members was temp-banned for the usage of multi-accounts the other, Genesis X, temp-banned for breaking ToS. Then we have a neutral mod who confirmed that the org issue was Genesis X failing to get it right. Vincent apologized for it too, but sure still a conspiracy going about.
3) If you took the time to read or talk with Jarabe, you'd definitely know he's not a multi. if you look at his activity, you'd definitely know he's not a multi. A multi can't be that active without getting caught. That's the whole point of it.
4) Yes, I expect change from HOPE since that's their main slogan. If Samsung says they can make a better phone than Apple, I expect them to do it and not hide behind a "Oh we didn't mean it, we're not prepared at all". So why the boasting and messaging if its all crap?
5) Obviously you didn't give any CS passes out in recent days, because you had no CS passes left. Do I really need to explain you how this game works? You blew all your CS passes, had to wait until the next elections and now have a new batch to use, of which you already spend a handful. You're not fooling anybody with that excuse, if you had the CS passes, we both know you'd have used them. Can't bake bread without an oven can you now?
6) Now to the most important bit: ATO is not and never was against immigration. We care about who joins us and do thorough checks. There is no usage to eBelgium to grant citizenship to people who don't contribute to our country nor to people who get banned for breaking ToS. You're piling on Jarabe for "profiting" of the system, when he had no choice. You accepted him, he can't refuse to be accepted. He can't stop you from pressing the button. It's like blaming the pedestrian who walked on the sidewalk for getting hit by a car. And now you're going about telling him he shouldn't complain about getting hit by a car because he did it on purpose?
Grow up, stop being a sheeple because its very clear that you are taking this very badly seeing how many comments it took you to write anything coherent and are just repeating the same message most of HOPE repeats. There's no giant conspiracy against your party, you're just not very good at the game.
@Caribo
On what logical reasoning do you come to the conclusion that I am a multi?
How do I lose my dignity? Because I don't understand what this has to do with it.
Why would anyone tell me what to publish in my newspaper if everyone can safely use their own?
Here the levels of conspiracy are serious....
I answered where it belongs, in the same thread. When you speak about things that you werent at the time, or you are a multi or you are talking because someone told you that and you repeat. I didnt say you are a multi, i said (and I keep saying the same) that there are two options.
Conspiracy? its the word of the week in ATO? Why you people keep insisting with that word when it has nothing to do with this! haha
You are the product of the same you are trying to criticize. You talk about how wrong is the "HOPE massive inmigration" when you entered eBelgium having your CS approved by a HOPE member. You are implying that there is a system in place to win elections by inmigration, and you recieved your own CS that way. how can a person usufruct that CS from the same system that he consider so wrong? Maybe we have different conceptions of dignity. For me, if I think that something is so wrong, I dont use it for my personal benefit.
So let's go back to MCKitKat's speech: an immigrant with no right to criticize.So nobody here could criticize, is that what you are saying?
So just because a HOPE member has accepted my citizenship, I can't fault it? Are you serious?
Yes, we certainly don't have the same way of seeing things, much less closed than yours.
you are using for personal benefits the same you criticize.
Its nice! its the same as criticizing animal violence with a fur coat on
In my way of seeing things, what I say have to be backed up with my actions, you dont think the same it seems
So let's go back to MCKitKat's speech: an immigrant with no right to criticize.So nobody here could criticize, is that what you are saying?
So just because a HOPE member has accepted my citizenship, I can't fault it? Are you serious?
Can you answer this please?
You dont seem to see the answer
Your problem is, if you dont like the answer, for you it doesnt exist.
You are a person who took personal benefit from a system, and now you are the same person telling us how wrong it is? it wasnt when you took your own gain right? Thats the definition of being an opportunist. When something gives you a benefit, you take it, but when your personal interest switches, your opinion too.
Again, you can give any opinion you want, I already showed in the other conversation that your opinion and the facts goes in different directions.
Im against censorship, in fact, for me its great that you keep writing, as I said, you are not helping yourself.
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I didn't want to start a career here with this, but you made me.
I am not here to defend those 4 people in this image, I am here for myself.
What right do you have to put me in this article when YOU arrived in Belgium on 27 November https://prnt.sc/wd2i0s which was approved by HOPE. I am on the shame list but you are not?
Start from your own backyard..
Regards,
Citizen of Belgium
Mithrandlr
It's not a shame list that in my article, so you totally misunderstood.
it refers to the HOPE party, not the people on the list.
It wasn't hard to understand ..
But considering that the arguments in your comment are exactly the same as this party's,it's easy to spot who you've been influenced by...
I guess you know better then me.