1% Work Tax - No more free money for our Enemies!
Marcelaxy
At the moment, 26 of 51 of our Core regions are occupied. This means that 50% of all Taxes eUS generates is transferred to our Enemies.
Edit: Korosh I sent me this link: erepublik.com/en/main/latest-updates/0/75
80% of the VAT, Work & Income Tax revenue of the eUSA is split porportionally by owners of eUSA core regions. The remaining 20% are safe for the eUS.
This means that at 32 occuppied core regions, eUSA will lose more than 50% of the tax revenue. We currently lost 29 of 51 core regions, within a day we should easily lose 3 more.
On Day 3791, the eUSA had a tax income of 145478cc (130945 + 14533cc Cities Subsidy)
The following countries have stolen CC from the eUS on the same Day:
Bulgaria: 5915
Croatia: 21441
Egypt: 14021
Irelan
😛10073
Macedonia: 5765
Thailan
😛7520
Total: 64735cc
Total Tax generate
😛210213cc
Percentage stolen: 30.8%
30.8% of all the Money the eUS generated on Day 3791 has been stolen by our enemies.
Since then we lost a lot of regions and the percentage is at 50% and increasing.
This means that we give enemy countries more CC they could use for COs against us then we receive for COs against them.
Every second our Congress waits to propose and pass a law for minimum Work Tax, we are making our enemies unnecessarily stronger.
Also we should think about 99% Import Taxes to give our few producers left an advantage and decrease the extra income from Import Taxes to nearly zero.
We need 1% Work Tax now!
Safe the remnants of our economy and don't supply free money to our enemies.
Comments
"stolen"
This is how I call/descripe this game mechanic.
(*describe)
captured is a much better term, stolen would be when government officials hide cc for there own purposes
What happened with the money when you collected around 400000 CC daily and now have no reserve to set CO? Stolen? 😄
I have been saying for years that America's so-called War Reserve did not exist and now you are seeing proof.
Nobody called me..
I'm not relinquishing any additional funds without a decent reason though.
I suport 1% for peace/war time.
let's see what our CP has to say/do in near future.
lol
How long does it take tu push a button !! Our decision making process is not at all adapted in war times !
The leaders are scared. You make one 'mistake' in eUS and hordes of noobs come to complain and somehow most people are scared of it, idk.
Hello happy taxpayerS
you know what.?
Marcel is not happy
Now if only I could actually work in my factories when they're occupied.
Thanks Plato.
taxes are always a steal
welcome to the hell in witch small community lives from years.
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Can we go to 0%? Are we putting the monies from the dwindling CBO in a safe place, or do they not have access to it?
Stolen that is our money, what you want you will have the best tax in erep 😚. So be happy
Good ideas about import tax but unfortunately they dont make money dependent on our work tax its dependent on theirs. not to mention we need the taxs during war time to function and out out COs to win battles... if we put it to 1% work tax will you be donating all the money we need to operate?
"they dont make money dependent on our work tax its dependent on theirs."
No, both.
Stop spreading fake information.
but he is Secretary of Media, that is his job
Dunno about anyone else but I don't see any comments here from the Secretary of the Media
I stand corrected, Maxwell Hanz is the new SoM
if we occupy a region is it not ours? do we not collect taxes from that region? why would we be collecting THEIR tax rate if its OUR region?
"we need the taxs during war time to function and out out COs to win battles..."
Use your brain.
We are giving them more money already than we receive from our own tax revenues. Money they can use on COs against us as well and more than neutralize our spendings.
Yes, we decrease our tax income with it but we decrease theirs even more.
Also, as the past has shown, COs don't win Wars. Allies win wars and we lost allies with our bait&switch tax policy (and stupid decisions from Pfailer and Gnilraps),
lumping Gnilraps with fluffer is just unnecessarily unkind
He was the President in charge when attacking Ireland.
very true, but Gnilraps helps other players, fluffer f-bombs other players, big difference
Then why dont you run for president so we can complain about you?
And how exactly am i wrong? can you please show me? https://www.erepublik.com/en/main/latest-updates/0/75
For example, Finland controls a part of its original regions, but has also occupied regions from Greece and Belarus. Finland’s TCI will be:
TCI = PCI(Finland) + PCI (Greece) + PCI (Belarus)
Dosent it say right there they get the figure for how much they collect from there tax rate...
U need a strong allies
I stop working or purchasing when under occupation, no one gets any revenue from me in that situation. 🙂
Well said Jessina good strategy! if we lower the work tax to 1% during war there would also not be any gov support programs for people not making money in there factorys.
I will donate every cent I safe from the 1% Work Tax when working as manager. Oh wait...
Pfeiffer is the Potus more stupid that this country had in all his history. Period.
In the old times he would be covered with tar and feathers and would be booted in the @ass out of US.
You misunderstand the mechanic Marcel
I am understandig the mechanic very well, at least according to this: https://www.erepublik.com/en/main/law/USA/205127
What congress does is their own business and sometimes bears no relation to reality.
This 80% of revenue goes to the occupier is wrong. That’s pre-Resource Wars 2 mechanics.
Greece: https://www.erepublik.com/en/country/economy/Greece
Romania: https://www.erepublik.com/en/country/economy/Romania
Day 3878 Grece: Totals + Cities Subsidy - Colombia = 9849cc
Day 3878 Romania: 39398cc taken from Greece
39398 / (39398 + 9849) = 0.8000081223
They haven't changed this mechanic a bit, eventhough this mechanic oftenly makes no sense post-Resource Wars 2.
You’re missing the point. Romania, as region owner, gets 80% of revenue generated by all WaM in Greek regions (at Romanians WT rates). The citizenship treasury of the manager gets 20% of WaM revenue. So Greece earns from all Greek citizens (at Greek rates), wherever they have their holding. In times of peace, we earned 80% of the WaM revenue from people based in the eUSA. Now that revenue will go to whoever owns the relevant region.
VAT, medals, CO taxes and import taxes are probably split 80/20 proportional to regions held, afaik that has never been updated.
Wrong. https://youtu.be/FPD5q6DC43M
When an american citizen WaMs in a foreign holding, eUSA gets a 20% split of which occupying countries get a split of up to 80%.
Also when a foreign citizen works in a region that is still held by eUSA, eUSA gets a 80% split of which occupying countries get a split of up to 80%.
So, occupying countries get a split of up to 80% of EVERYTHING that goes into the eUS treasury.
No matter if VAT, Import or Work Tax. No matter where the holding is nor the CS of the person who pays taxes.
It's stupid and outdated, but that's how it is. Occupying Countries earn twice from every region they annex. The full 80% WaM split + a percentage of the WaM (and everything else) in the remaining regions of this country.
no if bulgaria owns a usa region and your bulgarian they get 100% of taxes if your a usa citizen bulgaria gets 80% and you 20% provided that your core regions aint taken then you get a percentage of 20%. the old rule still applies to some extent.
If you read the detail on post-RW2 mechanics changes (https://forum.erepublik.com/index.php?/topic/4780-economy-changes/) the entire effect is related to the country that owns the region where the relevant holding is.
I agree that it doesn’t state that the old rule where total national revenue is split between occupier(s) and original owner on a percentage of total regions owned. However, if this rule was still in effect then a country that wholly occupied another would get 96% of the total revenue (80% of all WT-related clicks plus 80% of the 20% that goes to the occupied country’s treasury). That doesn’t seem to be the case at all.
In terms of your Greece-Romania example, I think it comes out at pretty much exactly 80% because nobody other than Greek citizens WaMs in Greece.
To be clear: the RW2 update clearly says how foreign taxation (and by extension occupied region taxation) for WaM. It makes no mention of how the other taxes (VAT, Import Tax, CO tax, medal tax, or work tax paid by employees of an citizen of a partially occupied country). It is reasonable to assume these are split as the old rules would dictate. Therefore reducing the work tax rate of an occupied country should see a reduction in revenue flows to the occupiers. Just not as substantial a change as you seem to be expecting.
Nowhere is stated that an exception to the "occupant tax capture" has been made on the 20% WaM split.
oh i picked this up before submitted a ticket and that was their explanation. i will try to retrieve it. dont know if they changed it since. but as far as i know its based on the percentage of regions you hold in your own country - the 20% for example bulgaria gets very little from their occupation of the usa.
Releasethe Krakken
Posted On: 07 Apr 2017 5:24 PM
ok my total work taxes from working in my taxes is+- 195 cc. i have 4 HC in the USA and 1 in portugal and 1 in Ireland which is embargoed.
note the old update talked about splitting of taxes as you can remember but remember then our companies was tied to the ground and followed our citizenship. Therefore when it was split it was easy to calculate if we had 3 of 6 regions we got 50% of taxes.
now however the new update says the country in which the HC resides receives 80% and the citizenship country receives 20% and companies is no longer tied to ground.
That means if Mayo is occupied by fyrom and i have a factory there. fyrom gets 80% and the citizen country 20%. it does not mean that old update is still in effect meaning we get 0/6 of the 20% citizen taxes. its taxes tied to citizenship not regions.
see you should have excluded work as manager from the old calculations that should be handled by the code for the new holding companies.
Hi Releasethe Krakken,
Thank you for your inquiry!
I have checked your case and read your article. You need to take into account that the data you see on your Companies page shows the taxes you pay, while the Tax Revenue table shows the currency which has entered Ireland's account after the taxes have been paid. You should also take into consideration the fact that the table you see on your Country's Economy page doesn't refresh instantly.
Ireland owns only 2/6 of its regions (this hasn't changed since Day 3,426) so taxes are paid towards Spain and Republic of Macedonia, as you have said it yourself.
If there is anything else we can assist you with, do not hesitate to contact us!
I wish you a most wonderful day ahead and all the best in you future endeavors!