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I guess Nick wasn't content that we refused to work with him as UKPP PP and wanted to make it permanent... Let's hope the sane members of UKPP start to realise the damage Nick does to their party.

v+s

He decided to go for UKRP in the end, best to make enemies of everyone at once ey? Hope their new PP has better policies than just taking over other parties.

Don't let one individual ruin things PCP, you can see every single senior UKPP player lining up to tell him he is wrong in that screenshot.

I dont condone this, but i wont be a hypocrite either. It wasnt that long ago ESO,TUP and UKRP members were discussing a take over of New Era. Watch the hypocrits stumble out of the woodwork to flame this.

Oh and I agree with Goku...notice the UKPP members against this.

Oh and senior TUP figures mentioned a take over of UKPP recently...shock horror...do as they say not as they do...http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/tup-goes-completely-bonkers-2156598/1/20

Massive credit to Wayne and Garth who both contacted me last night to reinforce that UKPP itself does not condone nor support nick in this.

Also Ser Hugh, unfortunately your information is wrong. Not your fault, that's nick again.

Like I said i wouldnt even defend Sir Nick on his comments, but are you saying the logs he produced are fake?

Yes, in that he's mashed many different logs together to say something totally different. Lies basically

If the actual content is correct from those logs though, you might wanna think about revising your rules for that channel. It's seems like anyone who has ops can ban whomever they like, while saying literally anything they like.

And the winner is TUP

what do PCP actually do anyway?

This article makes no sense whatsoever. I would tend to agree with your sentiments if the people who were commenting on his post actually encouraged him to do such a thing. However, that is not the case as evidenced by that very screenshot. What I see is a bunch of my fellow UKPP'ers advising Nick not to do what he was wanting to do. I don't see the problem here. You have a majority of UKPP'ers not encouraging or supporting him and you still try to send the message to the whole of the UKPP.

We did not support his idea and you are trying to smear it all over our party because of the idea of an INDIVIDUAL.

Let me ask you: Are Wayne or Lady Macbeth clowns? Are they clowns for disapproving of this and for not encouraging Nick's silly idea?

Mate, try to think critically and logically and see if this article makes any sense at all.

"BECUZ NICK HAZ STUPID IDEAZZZ LET BLAME ALL OF UKPP EVEN WHEN THEY SAYZ THEY NO SUPPORT HIS IDEAZZZ AND THINKS HE IS STUPID"

Sadly, that is how this article comes across.

To be fair if one member of TUP said the above we would be all over it like a fat kid on a cupcake...though fair play to the rest of the guys in the shoutbox.

Wayne for CP...everytime he posts he strengthens my belief O7

Wayne for CP...everytime he posts he strengthens my belief O7 x2

As far as I am concerned I do not claim they supported Sir nick?
And my point being in the title "Sir nick and his clowns" is that he does have supporters.

'Let's hope the sane members of UKPP start to realise the damage Nick does to their party.'

I did lol at this artice... As evidenced by the screenshot 3 senior members of UKPP, Alfagrem, myself and LM all state what a ridiculous idea it was.

PCP and UKPP had a blossoming friendship these past few months. We have been friendly and open to each others ideas, we even gave you 3 seats in congress. Now you state you wish to end relations due to the numptiness of one member!

You elected a guy who wants to PTO UKRP and PCP, and is called Sir Nick Griffin. Doesn't that qualify for clownhood?

he's not one member, you voted for him to represent you.

I voted for Meklon, not Sir Nick.

And a majority of the UKPP that responded to Sir Nick's post did not encourage or support his idea.

I too voted for Meklon.

And has lancer450 has stated the members that replied to the thread advised him not to. Sir Nick did not run for PP with the policy of PTOing UKRP or PCP. Members of UKPP are not blessed with the power to see into the future. Thus could not foresee what an idiotic move the PP would make nearly 4 weeks down the line.

although with Nick, you always know in the back of your mind that he gonna pull a derp...

Leave nick alone, at least he hasn't run of to 'I'm a celebrity'! 😛

I would not tar UKPP alongside Sir Nick to the extent that has been done. I commend the senior members of the party taking action and refusing to condone Nick's actions.

I would also like to reiterate, TUP will not condone a PTO of UKPP or UKRP.

I would not tar UKPP alongside Sir Nick to the extent that has been done. I commend the senior members of the party taking action and refusing to condone Nick's actions.

Wise words Mr Behomond

I agree we shouldn't be smearing the entire UKPP. However Wayne you and alfagrem didn't exactly condemn his idea, In fact you seem to be suggesting there is a subtler way to PTO the PCP. I like you and I've got on well with you but the idea that you'd think of sending a UKPP'er over to make us 'see the way' is disgusting to me.

Never would we think of doing anything similair the PCP is owned by it's members and should remain representative of their wishes.

We have for sometime been moving towards Isolationism in regards to working directly with other parties and Bamber is expressing how that mindset and policy has been reinforced by these latest actions.

We internally decided well before this that we would no longer lend support to any other party in CP elections in the forseeable future and that has now sadly been justified in the worst way possible.

There isn't condemnation in that thread, just constructive criticism - "a few PCP friendly people in UKPP, why not send them in to do the job"

So PCP are against me being involved with other parties... but are now asking UKPP to stop supporting me?

haaa haaa

Very hypocritical...

I offer my best recruitment help to PCP and they throw it in my face. Not only this, but after months of UKPP-PCP co-operation and us running your congress members, you then insult all UKPP members!

Well, I hope PCP and its members are happy to sink into political oblivion. Good Luck.

As you know Ayame, UKPP/PCP relations have cooled in the last month, mainly due to having to deal with Nick as PP, I feel. My comment about 'sending people to do the job' was about getting relations back on track, not a suggestion of alternative PTO strategy. As evidenced by the sentence before that, 'damage relations, rather then improve them'

"I guess Nick wasn't content that we refused to work with him as UKPP PP and wanted to make it permanent."

@Ayame from what i read that is mainly down to his choice of in-game name. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but is there any evidence that he is the real Nick Griffin? If not, you're just being very childish and would probably be the same over someone using "Benito Mussolini" "Francisco Franco" or "Josef Goebbels" [I've avoided the obvious one] ....

... yet I guess someone using "Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov", "Josef Vissarionovich Dzhugashvili" or "Lev Davidovich Bronshtein" would not be vilified?

can you guess I'm testing your communist knowledge here Ayame?

Wayne; Sending agents to our party to alter our stance in regards to anything is a PTO by definition. We have a right to determine our own policy in regards to others.

As for you Nick we don't want your help, We want nothing to do with you which we stated several times. We worked with UKPP before you were PP and we said before your UKPP PP election that should you be elected we'd not have anything to do with UKPP in an official capacity.

And now we can all see that was a smart move.

Neil. There is a big difference between attempting to glorify a convicted racist who still has a political party which fields candidates in the UK and someone who has, in my eyes anyway, a rose tinted yet misguided nostalgic view.

We're not the only ones against Fascists, No platform is a common policy both in the real world and the eWorld.

Sir Nick's hatred of Muslims is well documented and he denied until recently that he was a BNP supporter.

But if that wasn't a solid enough reason not to work with him then just take a look at what he's attempted to do recently.

His Ego seems to know no bounds, believing he will be the savior for all and that everyone should feel privileged to be told what to do by him.

Well no one is, He has a party with a support base, whether we agree or not that's the right of UKPP'ers to decide if they support him or not. Attempting a PTO and to rob another party of that right is not something we support.

I'd vote for Sir Nick, just to wind up everyone who's getting so huffy about it!
He's just being a tactless plonker, no chance of PTOing anyone

yay for catty gossip

On a lighter note, it's good to see Stalin and Nick Griffin getting into the ring again for some good honest debate...

lol'd.

I guess PCP doesn't want to work with anyone lately... you ignored the last CP elections when your support could have swung it in favour of richard... looks to me like PCP is inactive and very happy with remaing outside of the top 5 and being unable to run congress members!

As for your insults regarding the real nick griffin; I like how you get upset about the guy, but ignore the p****philes, war criminals, convicted dangerous, tax dodgers, etc in Parliament.

I hope what we've got from this is that Nick and politics = bad reputation for your party. Just don't involve him again.

'Sending agents to our party to alter our stance in regards to anything is a PTO by definition'

So talking to you and giving you UKPP's stance on issues, trying to find common ground in which both parties can play a part and actively work together (which is what i meant when i was say send people to you) is now considered a PTO? Seemed fine to have UKPP members come talk to you when you needed support for CP run or wanted seats in congress... But now it would be classed as a PTO.

Hey everyone- this Sir Nick guy sounds pretty cool- Maybe we should elect him PCP spokesperson?

"Sir Nick Griffin" - what on Earth are you talking about? Why can't we hate that fat, fascist waste of human matter, but also hate "the p****philes, war criminals, convicted dangerous, tax dodgers, etc in Parliament"? Why does hating one mean we love the other? It's ridiculous.

hate breeds more hate, the only way to stop is to love