So, who robbed Ireland?
irishbhoy1967
An ILPer / IFPer running away with e-Ireland's cash ;___;
First off, Best of luck to the new Government. Hopefully they won't fail as pathetically as the last few Administrations.
Ok, so the outgoing Government have not bothered to keep the public updated on the recent robbery, so I'll try. The admin/mods have confirmed a few things about the recent robbery of the e-Irish treasury orgs.
1- That the Orgs were not "hacked" and whoever stole the money had regular access to all National Orgs, i.e. someone from the Bean&Teddy Adminsitration
2- That the stolen money was ALL sent to ONE persons account.
3- That the Passwords and E-mails to all National Orgs were changed on the 10th of September, the day after Sweet Drinker retired as Governor of the Bank.
This would imply that whoever took the money-
- acted alone
- was someone from the Bean&Teddy Administration
- was not Sweet Drinker
So, here is the list of the Bean Government-
Those known to either have access to Orgs, or involved in creating new email accounts for Orgs.
Bean&teddy Went inactive 4 days before the end of his CP term and has not been heard from since. Hopefully everything is ok with him in real-life.
DreadedEstate Was the only member of Government to make any attempt to inform the public about what happened and appears to deeply regret that this has happened.
Seanan Claims that himself, Bean, WHS, sawc and Damhnaic were the ones who setup new email accounts for the change of National Org login details. Generally one of the more trusted citizens in e-Ireland.
Damhnaic
sawc Has stolen multiple times under various different personae in his time in Canada. Joined ILP where he was given leading roles in Government after he was kicked out of ICA. Reports from many experienced players that they warned ILP about him before the robbery took place. Was part of the team who were responsible for providing new email accounts for Irish National Orgs. Took himself off the ballot as the ILP Candidate a few days before the CP Election was due to start, left ILP and e-Ireland and took eUSA Citizenship. Has yet to comment on this article to protest his innocence. Red light here until he does so ;___;
Winston Hope Smith Claims he had no access to anything, yet Seanan claims he was part of the team responsible for providing new email accounts for Orgs. Has been in a position to access orgs in the past in his CP term but nothing ever went missing. Generally one of the more trusted citizens in e-Ireland.
Those in Minor Government Roles
Rikian1776
Now for some questions for the outgoing ILP/IFP Government. The Independent Labour Party / Irish Freedom Party have been crowing for a long long time about how transparency would be a major part of Government if they got into power. So they should have no trouble in answering a few simple questions for the public.
Question 1:
Who in the above list had access to all of the National Orgs after 10th of September?
Answer: DreadedEstate says he had access to all Orgs, but does not know who else did.
Question 2:
Who was involved in changing the Passwords and Emails to all of the National Orgs on 10th of September?
Answer: Seanan claims that himself, Bean, WHS, sawc and Damhnaic were the ones who setup new email accounts for the change of National Org login details
Question 3:
Was there a Document containing all the Passwords and Emails after 10th of September, and if so, who had access to it?
Answer: MoF DreadedEstate is not aware of any such Document.
Question 4:
How much, approximately, was stolen from the Irish National Orgs, and from which Orgs was money stolen from?
Answer: DreadedEstate says "several million" IEP was stolen. Marcus(not a member of Government) says that a total of 7 Orgs were stolen from.
Question 5:
The fock you looking at? Join of Fock off.
Answer: Still awaiting an answer from senior Government member.
Hopefully a senior member of the previous Government can be bothered to answer these simple Questions 1-5 for the public.
If your name is in the above list and you did not take part in the robbery, please state your case in the comments of this article and show us that you did not have access to all of the National Orgs so we can strike you off the suspect list.
Comments
sawc has stolen in the past from eCanada, just sayin
voted for justice
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me
I still think it was the ICA?
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but it's not Rikian or Ehtel because they are now in the cabinet so they didn't need to steal the money
I'd say Plato stole the money from Ireland treasury.
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The list is correct.
The answer is that we have a very good idea who did it, but not 100%. So until we're 100%, no-one is going to be pointing any fingers.
If the admins do their job, then you can expect an official communique on Monday evening.
Otherwise, thanks for the speculation
I thought sawc got banned for multies?
Anyway doesnt the admin just tell you who it was? thats how the UK found out jamesw robbed them
Admins do their job?
lol'd
We have a right to know the answers to these questions. We don't need admins to answer them, they can be answered by a senior member of the previous Government.
Thanks for your comment Mal, but as you're not a member of the previous Government then you're not the one we want to answer these questions. If you're not 100% sure then that is of no use to the public. We want answers to these questions, in fact we should not have to even ask them, that info should
have been made public right away.
"I thought sawc got banned for multies?"
I think you'll find that eIreland doesn't give a toss about ppl who have a horde of personal multies anyway.
/me looks at McF*ck.
The perp would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for those meddling kids and their dog, Irishbhoy-doo. 😛 xD
Not Ronisu. He dead.
Yeah chief, we all want answers, but I'm sure everyone would prefer proof positive rather than making nasty aspersions and then find out that you were - embarrassingly - wrong.
The other element is that even if the funds were withdrawn by one individual, it does not mean that only one person was involved. It's this element that is muddying the waters at present.
ICA !!!!!
I had no access to any orgs.
The questions are simple. The answers are simple. The info should have been made public already.
The answers to these questions can't turn out to be "embarrassingly wrong". Either someone had access or they did not. For now this is all we want to know. Info that should have been released already. Just because someone might have had access does not make them guilty, but it is certainly info that should have been released as soon as it came to light.
this should be a laugh
if those players had access wouldnt the new government also have access. im detecting a flaw in your argument. Despite that this isnt the game "murder" eRepublik cash cannot be used at moneybookers or to pay for your playboy subscription so it could only trickle in game. I will wait for the mods response but if the culprit deposit 5 million Eiep to blame me and I buy like 50 Q7 weapons factories I assure you it wasnt me. 😃
For fk's sake why do so many people have access to government trading orgs?! ONLY 3-4 people need them:
CP
vCP
MoF
vMoF (if there is one)
This is a crime of opportunity caused by security neglect.
There is no flaw. Public has the right to know who had access to National Orgs that were looted. Simple as that. Even if we never find out who DID it, we can at least rule some people out that DID NOT do it.
Unless you're trying to protect the culprit? Otherwise it's your argument that is flawed.
And btw, Rule #1 in eRep: Never sit on your arse waiting for admins to fix something.
Admins do their job?
lol'd x2
And btw, Rule #1 in eRep: Never sit on your arse waiting for admins to fix something. x2 Except usually they break everything
It sure is fun to watch the ILP/IFP squirm
Calling Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson!
Password changed 9/10 and again 8/6 right?
Nah, you're just not going to get the answers until tomorrow. What difference does an extra day make? None whatsoever....
So if the admins do nothing tomorrow, then by all means have a witch-hunt and I'll be happy to join in. All you're doing is trying to narrow the group down to a smaller base that will inevitably lead to people pointing fingers.
Some of us don't play that game, and want to give the admins a chance to comeback like they said they would.
Surely the irony that the individual that has received the most pointed fingers for stealing funds in the history of eRepublik, is now looking to point the finger himself isn't lost on you?
Rule #1 better to wait for admins to fix then let likes of IBhoy to "fix".
If this Queen of the dammed is right then everything will be cleared soon.
Not hacked....all the cash went to one person account.....why being so dramatic IBhoy?
If what you say is right....we just have to wait for admins to tell us who got the money...
Narrow the group down?
How is it a bad thing to clear some people of any wrong-doing?
How is it a bad thing to ask for information that should have been made available to the public but is being deliberately covered up?
Sorry that you don't want to play the game of letting the public know information that should be released to them immediately.
Btw, this article has resulted in the public now knowing that Malbekh has a very good idea of who did it. So it has already done the public a service.
"Surely the irony that the individual that has received the most pointed fingers for stealing funds in the history of eRepublik, is now looking to point the finger himself isn't lost on you"
Who better to catch a robber than the greatest of them all? : )
Why i didn't have access to the orgs?
I was Minister of Spiritual Enlightenment through Chaos and Gore in last two administrations!
WHAT A FK?
So basically i could had a chance steal all that money by myself and buy IBhoy's love so he put me on his friend list....
WHAT A FK!
Can't remember which orgs I was in charge of changing the emails for. I did, however, use some old emails but changed the email password (which prolly bean changed again). If those were the emails which were used, then it possible an old administration who originally used those emails could have recovered the emails by appealing to the domain provider; The old emails I used were part of Marcus' eireland.me domain which he gave to a select few, making the suspect list to include yourself aswell.
emails were changed on Sept 10th Seanan. If you were not made aware of the change then you're in the clear.
I was involved in changing the emails.
Bean had Winston, Sawc, Damhnaic and myself create and set up new/secure emails for the orgs. The emails I provided were the eireland.me domain emails I had access too, and changed the email passwords so they were secure. I didn't make entirely new emails, but the emails I provided weren't being used either.
I'm saying that if those were the emails used in the robbery, then those who could (if possible) recover those emails from the domain are suspect.
I've said it on the record and will say it again. We are 85% certain who took the money BUT, we have a very worrying unknown that is currently muddying the waters. I'm happy to give the admins 24 hours to sort this out.
If they do, then we can release a full statement on the amounts stolen and who took them, in addition to (hopefully), confirmation that the monies have been returned.
If they don't, then we have no choice to confirm what has been taken, with the list of suspects
Marcus from another article:
"This is why I pm'ed B&T last month telling him to check that all org emails were still on my server because the PW's and email accounts couldn't be hacked or changed. What did I get....fucking ignored and we get robbed. Fair fucking play"
So it does not appear that the eireland.me emails were used.
it was me
Mal, all of this information you have given in your comment is news to me, and probably news to most people who will read this. Not sure where you went on record, but it wasn't visible to a lowly pleb like myself ;__;
The emails I provided for the changes were eireland.me emails. If they were changed afterwards, then yeah, no eireland.me's emails used - but if not, could be a range of possibilities.
Hopefully hear from admins.
Here's the thing:
Emails can only be changed by a ticket from the sitting CP to the admins. Passwords can be changed without that, emails cannot.
So all these questions can be answered by your ex President in regards to who had access to what.
Ah, we're all plebs here Chief.
/sigh
Jacobi has just hit the nail on the head. Oh well.
Just wants the money back so we can get things back to normal in eIreland.
Since our ex-President is inactive, then responsibility falls on those around him to release this information. Information the public have a right to know.
David, this is normal in eIreland.
Ah..too much questions and too bad that people from ex-Gov don't have balls to answer on them.
Ironicly same people from that list were accusing ICA for robbery for so many years..lame people are lame..
@Grainne
You really don't know when to quit, told ya you're not my type and you're still bitching :/
Fuck.
That's the extent of my comment no matter how this turns out or who is to blame.
FUCK!
Also, I hope next time Ireland won't choose any "honest" and "trustworthy" guys from ILP/IFP
Hey I'm no 2...
lol how did I make No 2 I didn't even have access....
Oh yes I'm ILP and so guilty until proved innocent
btw the way as well as ILP/IFP you should have neither
whs noone accused u for robbery I guess...maybe u was part of that maybe u aren't, I don't think u are..
But...
You was there when passwords/e-mail were changed with no reason. Whole year we didn't had robbery here with those same passwords, it was safe and there was no need to change passwords. Except reason to rob the bank, I can't find another reason. And you was part of changing so it's reasonable ur on list...