Kara Beth vs. Clorofila
Kara Zor El
Not just 3 days ago, I was a Fed. I was a highly regarded member of the party with seniority. I had duties and access only given to those who could be trusted. I have never threatened to leave the party ever in the entire time there. That's still true. I made no threats. So why did I just up and leave the Feds and EZC without warning? Some people who know me for some time do realize that something must be very wrong for me to take this drastic step. You see, I drank the Kool-Aid. I was a Fed4Lyfe, proud/horny and all that crap. I supported leadership in public even when in private I disagreed. Unfortunately, the time came when leadership went too far. To top it all off, normal Feds decided to rub salt in the wounds.
You may think I'm being rash or quick to anger, but consider this. Before I quit, I gave myself two days to reconsider. Before, I wrote this article, I gave myself another 2 days to cool down. I did not want this to be the result of a moment of anger I would later regret. I chose to let myself cool down and let let reason set in. I want it to be clear that my words are chosen very carefully now and whenever I posted in IRC and/or the forum. There will be no apologies or regrets for my words or actions.
Clorifila
I have taken a look at her profile. It looks like she's been around awhile (not as long as me). She has more XP and probably a lot more friends than me. I assume that in most circles, she is well respected and her input is sought after. I also assume that attacking her credibility is probably unwise. I'm going to do it anyway, because I no longer care who thinks well of me or not. I already look like the bad guy. Here's how it went down:
I was just chilling on IRC #fedpartychat about a week ago when a conversation started involving Clorofila. A couple of people were asking various things about her, being new to the party and all. There was a nice back and forth where questions were asked and she answered them. I chimed in and asked her if she had a party job. Rather than simply answer me, tell me it's a secret, PM me, or that it's not my business, she tells me to ask gnilraps. It's common knowledge that pinging him for an answer is a crap shoot waiting for a reply. It's just not all that important to find out either.
Quite simply, I called her rude and left it at that. She answered everyone else's questions. Why not mine? Previously, we had absolutely no issues with each other and I was polite. Rather than leave well enough alone, she proceeded to question me why I said that. No one else had ever dared call her rude cause she's so nice was the gist of what she wanted to express. Not wanting to ignore her inquiry as she had so rudely dismissed mine, I answered her. Well, apparently, my answer did not satisfy her.
Shortly after, I proceed to the Fed forum leadership board where I notice a post from gnilraps, the PP at the time, moaning about his frustrating month as PP. Apparently, he was discouraged that his term as PP did not live up to his expectations. To top it all off, I was to blame for making it worse. You see, he had just trained Clorofila to head a new project. This being so, she could have just told me that. She left the party, stuck him with those duties, and went to USWP. There, she was given some type of responsibility, so I was told.
Next, I receive a PM from gnilraps that he is disappointed in me. This was proceeded by Pdeb telling me that he is ashamed of me. Why? I would not apologize. That's why. I'm supposed to be the bigger person and apologize, regardless of who's wrong. We have to be careful how we talk to new Feds or they will leave. Normally, I would agree, but her case is different. Then, eliwood_sain, takes their side and voices his disapproval. Not one person defended me or trusted that my judgement was valid. This has never happened before. To this very moment, I stand firm on my assessment of the situation. Here's my reasoning:
She handled this like a spoiled child who must get her own way. Look how fast she left the Feds and went to USWP in protest. No sooner did I leave the Feds, and look, she's a Fed again! This is not someone who can be trusted to be loyal to the Party. Just remember, I warned you, Feds. Don't piss her off in any way. I wouldn't even kick her as a joke. She will just threaten to leave again. How do you think USWP feels that she just used them to make her point and make me look bad? Here's how I know the fix was in:
2 days ago, I was confronted by another Fed named freckledick, in public chat, telling me to apologize. Of course, I told them, in so many words, to piss off. Then they told that they were just asking me that to gauge my reaction and confirm my new found hostile reputation. This was a clear setup to show what a b****h I am. They were baiting me. Like I said, the fix was in. There are other factors you will be made aware of that indicate this was hardly the time to confront me and my bad attitude was justified.
All this being said, I had no intention of leaving the party over this. But, the seeds were planted. I have never been so disrespected in all my time serving the Party. The silence of those who would normally take my side was deafening. Time will tell who was right. That's strike one.
(to be continued)
Comments
Maybe you shouldn't of treated us so badly.
PtH2 is a Fed?
Looking forward to reading the rest of this.
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There are two sides to every story, but if this is true, I'm glad that I left when I did.
Clorifila: Friendship was successfully canceled.
Unfortunately, I was not active during this and I am glad KB is posting what occurred from her perspective. I can tell you that from the forum side information pertaining to this incident was sparse and one sided.
Q: PtH2 is a Fed?
A: No, he is a bot.
Article - holding my breath...
Comment from Pizza - come on man, everything is not about you!
lol, politics xD
Joseph...
Unfortunately, yes, it is...
This is why multiple factions PTO us.
who the eff is gnilraps to be disappointed in anyone?
some ego
ontopic: i don't think CLorofila is much of a threat. she seemed to be a nice persone while in Marines
PTH, go ponder in your own existence. And why it should not exist.
@PTH - no, this is a cat fight...and I want to see it to the end!
Why haven't I subscribed to this fine citizen's paper before?
Let me fix that. (click)
This article reminds me of why I'm glad high school is in the past.
And why I've never gotten involved with the political side of this game.
One way to solve this. Kara Beth and Clorofila in a jello pit, wearing bikinis, wrestling. Go.
🙁
"Anytime there is a struggle between doing what is actually right and doing what seems right, then your ego is interfering with your decision." ~Darren L. Johnson
"Every normal person, in fact, is only normal on the average. His ego approximates to that of the psychotic in some part or other and to a greater or lesser extent." ~Sigmund Freud
Why haven't I subscribed to this fine citizen's paper before?
Let me fix that. (click)
I get no pleasure in seeing two friends fight.
@Custer
Good, because we were never friends. I don't even know who the hell she is.
Not surprised. Voted, still sub'd.
so basically two bitches are pulling each other's hair being women and as we say in greek "something is going on in gypsy land"
lol@rainy's comment
looking forward to part II
Part 2 is posted.
this whole thing seems to be an overblown mistake.
@Custer
Maybe my comment gave the wrong impression - I just thought Kara Beth's writing was good, and given that we've both been around a while and that I'm subbed to a lot of papers, I was surprised hers wasn't one of them.
Have you even considered that she's from a different country in RL and since Gnilraps hadn't announced her position to anyone in the party she wasn't sure she was supposed to tell you? No, you just assumed she was being "rude" (instead of simply not understanding) and decided to call her out on it instead of trying to understand the situation. Then, once the situation was explained to you, you became even more self righteous about it all.
I'm so tired of you acting so self entitled and like you're allowed to do and say whatever you want without anyone calling you out on it (despite the fact that you will call anyone out on ANYTHING you feel is incorrect on the drop of a dime).
Before you quit I thought the whole thing was over, if people were saying things to you in private in one thing, but even the discussion on the leadership board had died down. You overreacted.
This whole thing is stupid and you need to get over yourself.
LMFAO drama
Oh snap.
Also, the "Fed who attacked you" on irc (and if asking you a question is attacking I have severely misunderstood that word my entire life) is a very good friend of Cloro's. Honestly I would have been surprised if she would not have said something in the defense of her friend.
*popcorn*
evidently u r stoned
@Angelini
That is twice you overlook the parts of my articles which refute your claims. I need not explain myself further.
@the rest of you
This is a microcosm of the resistance I got from Fed leadership on a variety of issues. Angelini is most definitely the leader of my opposition. She is, no doubt, very pleased I am gone.
"The leader of your opposition"? The most I had to say about the whole Cloro fiasco while it was happening was that we need to remember that this is the internet and sometimes things get lost in translation. I'm pretty sure I even went out of my way to say that I didn't care what had happened or who was at fault or who should apologize. Am I saying something now? Yes, I am. Because you are acting like a victim who has done nothing wrong to bring any of this on herself. But I have had nothing to say to you or anything you have done/said for close to 2 months now, so get off your high horse.
I have always said that for the most part, I actually agree with the things you say, and the things you perceive as wrong. What I have always disagreed with you over is your approach. You have singlehandedly lost this party a number of promising members through your attitude and lack of courtesy.
Whether you believe it or not, I am sorry you left. The Feds have always been the most important thing to you. But I am not sorry to lose your irascible personality.
Ha! Promising members? This party has a long history of letting promising members through the cracks. Idk how many Feds have asked for party jobs just be neglected and leave the party. I know I was the one who removed their access. Maybe things have improved lately, idk.
I see no victim, only a disappointed and PO'ed Kara Beth (and with good reason IMO). Knowing her dedication and loyalty, something must have gone very wrong to anger her like this!
Kara Beth, your a huge asset to eUSA and eRep as a whole! I am sure you will be missed by the Feds.
KaraBeth,
If anybody here knows what you went through it is me. I was treated very similarly when Mourningstar and QBert thought they could just railroad me with the party. MS went and deleted my access everywhere and thought I would not just PM everyone with what actually happened. Made me feel the same way when I had to come back and MS and Q are still in leadership after what they did. Starting to wonder about party leadership is at this point... I have always been a FED since the first day I could join a party back in December of 2009... I have seen some changes in the party over that time. Not sure the present leadership has the same agenda as it used to.
@Dracona
I remember. I was there. Good to know that there are some who understand my frustration.
"irascible" is the best word used in the comments so far.
Fed Party as a whole is good. I can't blame Gnilraps for being frustrated because I'm sure he doesn't know what happened.
*popcorn*
evidently u r stoned
x2
I especially like the supersecret party position part.The unsuspecting victim runs up against Feds' intrepid undercover agent infiltrating USWP. The PP is out of office, attending some trolling contest award ceremony. The select few insiders fail to ease growing tension between the respected, yet uninformed party veteran and the young and daring superspy. I'm buying the movie rights!
MARSHA MARSHA MARSHA....
*wanders out*
v&s
I think that writing about this is the best thing to do. Talking and chatting may only lead to more misunderstandings and arguing. My gut right now says that Clorifila (spell that right?) was just jealous, but I have no right to make assumptions.
CHICK FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"You see, I drank the Kool-Aid." awesome!
"This article reminds me of why I'm glad high school is in the past.
And why I've never gotten involved with the political side of this game." +1
Well... just goes to show there are two sides of each story... Now if I only knew part 1. xD