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Isn't this like buying votes?

No, its simply offering something for an endorsement. We aren't giving this to the IVF to vote for us, we're simply offering this as a token of friendship and encouragment.

i personally find this offer easy to ignore im just sorry others cant do the same

Yes Conor, it's buying votes 🙂

The IVF fight for Irish ideals around the globe,and do this properly they need as much support as they can get,the government is currently giving them no support at all.
We wish to change that.

I'm a commander in the IDF, nitwit, so when you sau support the IDF, you're supporting me.

Why would the government need to support the IVF? They are a paramilitary force bound to no rules at all, as this article shows once more. I rather have our government support our official and recognised army than a group of guerilla's with no true allegiance.

Psst Top Gun you are Minster of Defense in the current Government. Just thought i'd remind you.

Tax payers of Ireland......
LOOK how your prospective ICF OVERLORDS will spend your money for votes.
SEE how they will fund a paramilitary organisation with the sweat of your LABOUR.
OPEN YOUR EYES to the lobbying power this underground organisation will gain from backing the ICF.
NOTICE how the ICF will not communicate their true intentions to us the public but will do shady backroom deals and HIDE THEIR EXISTENCE from the citizens of eIreland.
Support Oglaigh na hEireann / IDF.... support our troops (that's us)....
DON'T let the ICF give YOUR TAXES and YOUR WEAPONS and YOUR MOVING TICKETS to a private unaccountable mercenary group.

*edit*
The fact that I personally agree with the current aims (since internal rules seem to be rather changeable) of the IVF doesn't preclude a disagreement with u Manni over the funding of private organisations by the state with no accountablity to the people of eIreland.

Also since you (and almost all eIrish citizens) are already in the IDF what I have taken from this is that EXTRA RESOURCES TAKEN FROM TAXPAYERS will NOT be available to them unless they join the IVF. For example a member of the IDF could be entitled to 1 weapon whereas an IVF member (if a member of IDF) would get 2 or more.

Essentially good citizens of eIreland in the IDF who are NOT IN THE IVF WILL BE GETTING A TAX INCREASE, since those in the IVF will be getting receive some tax returned to them in the form of additional weapons and moving tickets. This will create a 2 tier tax system which is AGAINST THE INTERESTS OF THE AVERAGE EIRISH CITIZEN.

Ummm. No thanks. I would rather buy my own goods than except anything from ICF and since it is likely that the IVF will be accepting this offer, I hereby wish to terminate my membership in the IVF.

"Tax payers of Ireland......
LOOK how your prospective ICF OVERLORDS will spend your money for votes."

Um,if we get enough votes to be in power,we wouldn't need to buy votes would we?
Not that we will anyway,because this isn't buying votes.
This is supporting a worthy organisation,and they aren't even giving an order for their members to vote,merely recommending it.

"SEE how they will fund a paramilitary organisation with the sweat of your LABOUR."

Actually since the IVF would defend Ireland when needed,they can be treated the same as an IDF division,so it's the same as funding the IDF.

"OPEN YOUR EYES to the lobbying power this underground organisation will gain from backing the ICF."

Very little.
Compare sizes of IVF to IDF.

"NOTICE how the ICF will not communicate their true intentions to us the public but will do shady backroom deals and HIDE THEIR EXISTENCE from the citizens of eIreland."

I'm sorry I missed the public announcements of all IUP and ISRP plans,could you link me to them?

"Support Oglaigh na hEireann / IDF.... support our troops (that's us)....
DON'T let the ICF give YOUR TAXES and YOUR WEAPONS and YOUR MOVING TICKETS to a private unaccountable mercenary group."

It's the same as giving supplies to mobile IDF divisions?

"For example a member of the IDF could be entitled to 1 weapon whereas an IVF member (if a member of IDF) would get 2 or more. "

Theres no statement of that anywhere,yet more jumping to stupid conclusions.

"Essentially good citizens of eIreland in the IDF who are NOT IN THE IVF WILL BE GETTING A TAX INCREASE"

Wrong

"AGAINST THE INTERESTS OF THE AVERAGE EIRISH CITIZEN."

Wrong again,the average citizen would actually get more from our government than they do currently.

Nith "I rather have our government support our official and recognised army than a group of guerilla's with no true allegiance."

They probably have more of an allegiance to Ireland than a lot of IDF members. They were formed because they wanted the north, something the IDF wouldnt do.

eIreland honestly has a weak military, so I think we should be investing in every opportunity possible.

There is no possible way to gain the north. It is simply impossible and furthermore not very smart diplomatically speaking. That would imply the 27th largest nation taking on the 7th...I would hope the IVF and its leaders would understand that.

And if..."The IVF fight for Irish ideals around the globe"

Blah blah blah......have we nothing else to do these days?
ICF are doing very well in spending no money on party administration, getting loads of publicity like this, and generally itching everyone's arse.....aren't they?
Maybe indignation should be funnelled to the ballot box.

Couldn't put it better myself Grainne.

*sighs* Cant you just not show your repect to the ICP their making a good friendship deal not a bloody buying votes, seriously they want to help IVF become strong as IDF so that we can defend our country ...

Show respect! Are u kidding. How could anyone show respet to people who buy votes.

It's not buying votes,but hey whats the point convincing you,you clearly aint going to change your opinion of us.
So keep being a sheep,bahhh

Recommendation ignored.

"They are a paramilitary force bound to no rules at all, as this article shows once more. I rather have our government support our official and recognised army than a group of guerilla's with no true allegiance."

Theoretically, the IDF aren't bound by rules either.
The IDF commanders could act independently if they had support to do so.

Also, government support is obviously conditional.
It can be withheld in the event of the IVF doing something out of order. This deal creates unspoken restraints for my so called "guerillas with no true allegiance".