Why I am Not Ashamed To Be Socialist
The Irish William Wallace
It is an almost forbidden word outside of the American intelligentsia, with such negative connotations as being "unpatriotic" and "evil". It is not just Americans who view this as a dirty word, but many people outside of America do too. I could write all day about how the right-wing has claimed the word "socialism" as their own and have done much in their power to discredit and demean it so that anyone who even utters the word is immediately thought of as a traitor, a foolish idealist, or someone who is poor and just wants to rob rich people of their so-called hard earned cash (you know, the surplus they collect without doing the labor - the same labor that makes their wealth possible). Some critics cite the 100 million that were killed "under socialism".
Just a general note about methodology... numbers such as this are obtained basically by ascribing communism to every death occurring in a socialist country which could have been prevented by a better performing economy. You understand? Someone starves under socialism, they go on the list. Of course the numbers are also hugely inflated, but it doesn't even matter... compared even to the inflated numbers, capitalism performs far, far worse by this method. Something like 15 million people starve in the capitalist world every single year, so that capitalism starves in a mere seven years as many people as this person thinks communism has EVER killed.
Abandoning that methodology though, we can look at socio-economic political systems in a clearer light. Socialism, nor capitalism, has ever killed anyone. Socialism has never really been done on a large scale, despite what you may assume about the USSR. If you know true communist ideology (or socialist even) you can point out several examples of why the USSR shouldn't be used as an example of what a socialist state would look like. Research "state capitalism".
To me, socialism is more than just an economic system to strive for. To me, the socialist struggle has existed since primordial civilization. It is the fight against the privatization of wealth and power in the hands of the few, the socially constructed divisions between society based on class-gender-race-sexuality, and the strive toward a society in which everyone truly has a chance to better themselves and the world around them.
Think of it - a lot of arguments against socialism tend to play on buzzwords like "lazy" and "unmotivated". If everyone's basic necessities are provided for them, what will be the point of working? Everyone will just live off of the work of others right?
No. Human nature dictates against that notion, people do not simply waste away their lives if opportunity is presented to them. Why do you think people waste away their lives today? Perhaps it is because the gap between rich and poor is ever growing and there is almost nothing one can effectively do to change that. Maybe it is because we are underemployed, working tedious jobs that degrade our individual existence and turns us into machines. Whatever you argue, we do not have much opportunity as a general populace because we, about 80% of the world, live in struggle/poverty/nearing poverty.
I am proud to be a socialist because even in a world full of gross equalities, I believe in the spirit of humankind and the dream of progressing civilization so we can tackle the greater mysteries of life and give everyone the basic necessities because every citizen has the right to life.
Anyone who tells you that any man, woman, or child doesn't deserve food and shelter - punch them in the face and take their money and throw them in a third world country. Then they can see how much *opportunity* they have to make a decent living.
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USSR is basically communism gone wrong
"Then they can see how much *opportunity* they have to make a decent living."
Exactly. People don't like to admit that they are privileged. They also like to set their own life as the standard for others, though it may be harder for others to meet. (for example "I didn't get free this or that, so why should anyone else") It's selfishness, greed, and jealousy and what's worse is that it's a mentality encouraged by many conservative politicians, particularly in the states.
Food and shelter will one day be free unless the government shifts socialist sooner than later and puts limits on how much of a company's labour force can be replaced with machinery. If not, machinery will make most human labour obsolete and people won't have the employment needed to provide food and shelter for themselves. This means the government will have to provide instead. The decision is up to the government, but being that capitalism is all about the present rather than the future, I don't see the government taking the necessary steps required to prevent that from happening.
I would rather find my own food and erect my own shelter than have it dictated to me by my government...
Better idea would be a human cull, thin the numbers by a few billion.
Population control will be implemented but the governments aren't pro-active enough to do so in time to prevent food and shelter to be issued. That's not saying that if humans wanted to make themselves more valuable than machinery, they could gain the resources required to provide their own food and shelter. But most wouldn't take that initiative if it were given for free.
Strength and Honour
So your basic premise is theft is ok as long as someone else is being robbed to pay for it.
Not at all. I was simply making a point and demonizing a certain attitude towards the poor is all.
No, the basic premise is that theft is ok if it's necessary for the survival of the republic.
Hail Socialism
An excellent article. So much truth it hurts.
Thanks for putting this out there.
"I am proud to be a socialist because even in a world full of gross equalities, I believe in the spirit of humankind and the dream of progressing civilization so we can tackle the greater mysteries of life and give everyone the basic necessities because every citizen has the right to life."
Beautiful.
I appreciate your vote, readership, and this comment. 🙂 Thanks!
It must be true. I read it on the internet.
You have a long way to go if you want to convince me that socialism is the way to go.
Capitalism does need a leash, but not an extreme switch.
That's fair, Aries
voted o7. pls let me know your irc channel i wanna know about socialist in USA or people with socialist ideas.
Unfortunately I am not on IRC, but please feel free to PM me with any questions you have about the Left in America.
is because i know about socialist history in USA. so i wanna chat about it. but i just realise u are irish, am i correct?
I am a Scottish-American, have been living in America for most of my years.
I just finish Jack London's "The Iron Heel", A great classic I can recommend to anyone looking for a good story on this theme.
Also, Hail Socialism!
Maybe the best article in the whole eRep media system. Seriously, a VERY good one.
Socialism is a great ideology, often criticized by people who have barely read a Wikipedia article about it.
Nowadays, with a worldwide economy crash on the go due to wild capitalism, a sound knowledge of what REAL socialism would be (knowledge gained reading books: Marx, Engels, Gramsci and -why not?- Orwell) opens your mind towards a new horizon.
As N.Bobbio, a very important Italian left-wing philosopher said in the early 90s:"refusing what USSR and so called "Real Socilism" has been must not be a refusal to look for a better society"
Completely agree. Even if one doesn't buy into believing the oncoming economic catastrophe, more certainly there will be a ecological one.
Economies crash all the time, it's what they do. It's not a symptom of capitalism and socialism would not banish it.
Are you a RL citizen of USA? Because here in Europe socialism is not considered a "dirty" or bad thing, it is just a political and socioeconomic system, but few people is ashamed of being a socialist. On the other hand, there are more examples of socialist/communist countries apart from the USSR, I can mention the vast majority of Eastern European countries after WWII, or modern countries like Spain where the socialist party was or has been in power more often that the right party... What about China and their dual system? Who says that anybody thinks other people might not deserved food or shelter?
I live in America, here society will rip you apart if you proclaim to be a socialist. One cannot even claim to be socialist without being mocked, called a traitor, or chastised for your beliefs.
Countries like spain, greece etc where "socialists" were in power, well they were not socialists. They only kept the name. 😛
China? 😛 😛 😛 😛
Come on..
In countries such as France Spain and Italy, socialism is not a bad thing. You can openly be socialist and many people don't care (France has even elected a socialist president). However the further you get to the Former USSR the dirtier the word socialism gets. Purely because, as MikeBane said, Socialism is what they believe they suffered under. Misunderstandings under the word and they hate it. Communists and Socialists are discredited the further east you go in Europe.
I live in RL Ireland. So its completely possible i'm wrong on this. I have a few Eastern European friends who have told me this.
To be honest, I wouldn't like to live in the US as much down to their political system where the "left" wing is equivalent to middle of the road conservatism here.
That is all too true Liam... :/
I know that, but what exactly have the socialist done to be called traitors? USA is not the only country where the opposition to the majority are called traitors, to name a few: China, Cuba, North Korea or the one you mentioned the USSR.
Another point is that basic needs like shelter and food are provided to citizens in need in the majority of European Union countries, Ireland and UK being good examples for me (as I live here and I know what I'm talking about) and people works to get a bit more than the bare necessities. Medical care is provided at a reasonable price or directly by the state free of charge for its citizens.
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Because of the media socialism is demonized. And why not! The most times the media controlled by rich people..
By the same token, capitalism is blamed for many evils in the world that it has no responsibility for. To many on both sides of the arguments stop to look at human nature. Greed and stupidity ruin many things that are then blamed on economic or political philosophies by those who wish to stoke strife and dissension for their own advancement and profit.
I'm a proud capitalist because I feel that that I am the person responsible for the usage and distribution of the products of my labor, physical and mental. I do not believe a government should have the ability to take away what I have produced and then distribute it in ways I may or may not agree with.
I believe in charity. We have a responsibility to help those in need and should reach out to those less fortunate to ourselves. I do not feel this means a government should do this for me.
Aye Paddy. And we respect you for it.
You are responsible for the usage and distribution of the products of your labour, simply because you are that labour. The problem many have with capitalism is that you don't reap nearly enough of the benefits of your labour. Explain how some of the richest men in the world are the owners of gasoline companies, but yet an employee at at a gas station that delivers that product makes just enough to pay the bills? This was true even in a time where the employee poured the gas for you as well.
I also don't think the government should have to force its citizens to give charity either, but that's only because those citizens are the labour force that barely make enough to feed their families. It's a little different for those on top of the economy, such as a CEO that pulls in 70 mil a year.
Capitalism and Socialism both look great on paper. It's a point I can't hit on enough. Humans ruin these ideologies by implementing greed. We're however raised to appreciate our current system, and claim that it is the sole contribution to our success, while neglecting to give credit to the actual labour force themselves who produce our goods and services and who statistically stand just as much of a chance to become a CEO some day as an elementary baseball player stands to become an all star professional. It is this labour force that is raised to believe that without the system, there could be no success. However the truth is that without the labour there could be no system.
True. You also need a dream to inspire those who provide the labor. If you feel that you can never be anything more than a low paid Swedish worker, why would you become the next Alfred Nobel? If you feel there is nothing to be gained by exploring things in your garage, why would you become the next Steve Jobs?
A problem I see with both systems, is that to few are willing to acknowledge that both systems have good points and both systems have flaws.
To many chiefs and not enough workers is not a system that will last. To many workers and not enough chiefs won't either. Both are unbalanced.
Just as in nature, the Alpha's will fill their bellies first.
WayneKerr, if that was the true way of the world - I'd slay every rich man and take all their possessions. Why don't we revert back to nomadic tribes and recolonize the agricultural settled people and turn them into our slaves again - ah the story of civilization.
I'd happily do that. Real living right there pal...
damn socialist hippie
Nice article my emperor.
Capitalism stalls technological advance and therefore it doesn't suit me at all. Since curing cancer and solving the gasoline problem are not really profitable we'll just have to wait till we burned up all the oil, screwed up our atmosphere and watch another million 7 year olds with leukimia die. Yay capitalism! the ideology for the lazy, egoistic and greedy.
better dead than red, amirite?
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Great article expect I would say the "degenerate workers state" is a much better way to describe what went wrong with the USSR but a debate for another time 😛
Its unfortunate that socialism in alot of places has be demonized to such an extent that socialist is used as an insult but times are changing. I have seen polls that show near half of young people in the USA see socialism as positive. The international my parties in has see growth in places like Alabama and Wisconsin and are close to getting people elected http://www.socialistalternative.org/news/article22.php?id=2176
"To many on both sides of the arguments stop to look at human nature. Greed and stupidity ruin many things that are then blamed on economic or political philosophies by those who wish to stoke strife and dissension for their own advancement and profit. "
Human nature is not a unchanging static constant it is shaped by peoples material conditions. Thanks to the artificial scarcity created by wealth being concentrated in the hands of the elite a culture of greed is created by capitalism and continually promoted by capitalism.
degenerate totalitarian shit-hole is more like it.
I cant even decide where to start disagreeing with the article.
It certainly is well meant, but based on so many wrong assumptions about humans, human nature and socioeconomics...in the true spirit of most socialists and communists today.
No please, go on. I always like to hear counter arguments. I am very set in my views, however they are not concrete. I doubt you will change my views, nevertheless I appreciate listening to the other side, so I can either look to refute your claims or make a counter-argument myself. If I fail to do that, then you either "beat me" or perhaps my views change a little.
Please bear with me, the times where I spent countless hours having socialism vs capitalism talk are behind me.
Just that, I find your 6th paragraph, where you are doing most of the arguing, terribly self-contradictory.
Living in a social market economy, let me tell you that I know heaps of RL examples of people that both have enough money and time to live a decent live, and many of them are not adding ANY value to society (or even to themselves or their families). Libraries in my country are free of charge, but still I see most unemployed (that live in rich social welfare) spending their time watching talkshows, playing WOW instead of spending time in the library, painting, volunteering for social institutions, doing sports, etc.
Maybe you yourself might be in posession of a strong intrinsic motivation to do purposeful things, but dont fall for that bias...many people are not.
I see that as a reasonable argument. Many people that receive unemployment in the states do the same.
I believe when machinery replaces most human labour then it will be much harder to contribute to society. Most people will essentially live for free, housing and food given at no requirement except perhaps occasionally being drafted for short periods of labour that machines haven't replaced. Similar to the military only shorter periods of time. This means that all humans could spend their time however they'd like, and if they wanted higher means of living than the base standard provided, they would have to take the initiative to offer better products and services than machinery can offer for free.
I think humans naturally have a work mentality (doesn't mean all humans want to work) but the species in general has a work mentality. However our very survival was due to our intelligence outperforming natural competition. Therefore I believe our destiny is that we use that intelligence to create machinery to replace almost all labour, allowing the governments no other option but to use this machinery to provide free living standards to all.
Those that offer no contribution to society today are essentially useless. Not worthless, but useless. In the future however I think the very definition of "useless" will be altered.