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The Spanish better fear this gladiator in the shadows!

Glad he's on our side!

Listen to this man, he gets it.

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I usually find it is best to do the opposite of what Uncle Buck advises

And look where that's got you. Debt and a temp ban.

but back and better than ever 😃

I doubt that.

Buck you're an American now. Work on getting us some USA support.

Sorry Fox, you guys burnt that bridge when we left.

So you're just butt hurt and looking for a shoulder to cry on?

I'm sure you're all completely capable of finding help.

Or are you finally admitting your useless..

my argument to everything you just said can be found in the comments of this article
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-mofa-an-olive-branch-2275234/1/20

Actual facts that speak to the issue! Wow how actually relevant to the discussion. If only others would follow suit.

I wouldn't say we have been fighting long and hard. I'd say we've been getting our butt kicked. Fighting implies it's two sided and we have caused damage. We've actually just been providing entertainment for Spain.

If by cooperation you mean people eating each other then yes, lots of cooperation. I love how you contradict yourself on this point. Not only are you strongly disagreeing you admit to planning active sedition against the government that was elected. Ignoring the majority vote. Ignoring the will of the people if the current vote to accepts passes. All because it is simply something you don't agree with. Yeah, cooperation. The laughable part is it will only be you and Addy in the RW, because if the NAP plan doesn't pass you two will be the only one left. I suspect your half measured convictions towards our current plight will show try as you fade back into the shadows you have been keeping yourself while those truly invested deal with the reality of our situation.

Lap dog how?... we don't pay them, we don't fight for them, we don't do anything? Let them have what they have already taken?

I think there is valid arguments to not accepting the Spain deal, but none are listed here. Now is the time for serious conversations. Not roll-playing story time from a player that can't be bothered to inform himself on current events. Play or don't play, but don't act like you are in the know when it suits you to role out of bed. That's dangerous and partially ignorant on your part. You want my respect on your opinion. Let's see your active participation in a serious solution.

Well that was outta left field, but I'll bite. Has our discourse been all rosey? no, but frankly it's a lot better than what I've seen in days of yore, recall a comment I made in a previous article, there are always trolls and people stirring trouble for the sake of it. Ignoring those people, I stand by my statement on a better discourse across the board.

As for fighting, of course we have been. Fighting does not imply winning, but I have seen many eCanadians giving it there all fighting for eCanada, the impact it has is irrelevant, you want to throw insults? You just through a big one at every eCanadian that has been fighting for the past six months.

In terms of disobeying the government, I will admit explanation is needed, what I was trying to say was if this was implemented without the peoples approval, without an impeach button, this would be the best way to show protest. I apologize for that oversight and future videos will be better edited.

Lap dog? I would have to so yes, how else do you see it playing out? Once we get parts of our country back, do you honestly believe eSpain will let us be on our merry way? It may not come in the form of having us fight for them, but discouraging us from allying with people, and fighting wars for our allies? I see plenty of eSpannsh intervention there.

Finally, not keeping up with current events? I am about as up to date as any player can be without having the ear of the president and what goes on in the cabinet. Do I miss things? Sure, who doesn't miss the odd fact or nuance?

Either way, let's keep this chat rolling, thoughts anyone?

I can promise you it wont be only Randall and Addy

What will happen is eCanada will be severed into two factions, those that got into bed with Spain and those that will continue the fight and try to destroy the NAP.

Its not worth it

I imagine there will be plenty of people who won't stop fighting. I can also imagine that they won't succeed. I base this assertion on the fact that we've been getting our asses handed to us handily for the past... I've lost count... many, many months.

Even if half of the country doesn't stop fighting if the other half and Spain fight for Spain in the RWs, it'll be really tough to RW back a region.

And then what? Spain wipes us again and we're either back to the same point and now this minority (I'm assuming we're going to have a vote on this) is dictating whether or not we can make a deal with Spain. Not very democratic.

That is, of course, if Spain doesn't just allow us to RW the other 9 regions back right afterwards. How many times are the guerillas going to be able to hold out and successfully RW back the hold out provinces?

For as many people that will continue to fight if the NAP goes through, there will be as many people leaving the country if the occupation isn't resolved. They country is already divided in this regard. Those that want to make a statement and continue losing in their righteousness and those that want to join a fight (in the USA) that can actually fight against TWO.

I'd prefer the choice that isn't seen as the ongoing joke by Spain and their continued go to entertainment when they need a fight.

By the way, at the risk of sounding naïve here, I actually think that a guerilla war could be a positive thing. It really could be fun for those not agreeing to the deal to continue fighting. I'm not a big fan of the current situation but I know some people enjoy the non-stop (and non-winning) fighting.

Really, it could be the best of both world. Those who want to have a country would have one with newbs enjoying luxuries like new jobs and a Congress and those that want to keep fighting can keep fighting with a new perspective. It could spice things up a little.

I can guarantee that Addy and Randall will not be the left.

Hell, I'll be there beside them o7

only ones* left

Don't give away our military tactics!

Spain, we are definitely coming from the left.

There, fixed the situation. Now they won't see us coming.

I'm just going to leave this here for when people want it.

American CS form: http://tinyurl.com/6aax47n

Never

pussy

I'd rather keep on fighting and have self respect then just give in like a coward.

I will fight them and resolve not to give in.

Strength does not Necessitate Victory.

We may not be the Victorious ones in our battles, but we are Strong together nonetheless.

If we rw succesfully 9 regions from eSpain.. but couldn't win anymore and yet we kept trying... would that work for the people that are against this NaP? Cause that's what in the table...
Its not like we're going to give them money, sign an MPP with them or anything. eUS have a NaP with them. so no official help will come from them, ASGARD simply doesn't have the power to set us free, so what do we really have to loose with this NaP?

Our ability to negotiate peace on our terms, and ignoring the struggle we have had for the past months for an easy out. The deal makes us beholden to eSpain in that the existence of our territory is on eSpains whim. If we decide to go back on the NAP after a month, they will come right back and take the regions again. It is an illusionary state we would be living in