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Yet minimum wage is 1cc

We know why!

"Yet minimum wage is 1cc"

Begun, the clone war, has.

Exactly how many people are being forced to work for 1cc, how many are willingly working for it?

You have to be joking

The best part is where people act like it is profitable to do economics in the first place. Yeah, good luck earning those Q7 wep comps back in 2025 xd

ppl've always been able to earn some money with food production & raw materials too, and house stuff if the country has bonus : )

+own food production to be self-sufficient ; )

To abrupt to triple the work tax. Work as manager is not profitable in all companies.
So best would be to lower work tax to 2% and raise VAT and import tax raise with 1%.

VAT hurts the consumers.
Why are we allowing import taxes to be so low instead of protecting local production?

I get competition from people overseas with crazy prices.

Derphoof to Henry William French and 26 more people | 9 hours ago
If we raise the import tax, then it makes it harder for me to buy cheap foreign goods.

Dumb, dumber, Derphoof!

I never buy import

WAM continues to be profitable in many companies.

In many indeed, but some lost the profitability and that is a loss to their owners, mostly the ones that are not rich.

I was not rich for the longest time. I was however self supporting. Funny thing, I think I am rich now. it just sort of happened, according to a highly detailed plan implemented with discipline .

I oppose the tax increase because it creates a massive burden on the main producers in eUSA.

In the age of global economy such as we have had since the advent of holding companies, and in eUSA particularly, a high tax work tax is the functional equivalent of an import tax.

The best thing in our favor now is Plato's high cost of changing the location of a holding company.

However, our Reserve does need to continue to grow. While we no longer have a "standing army" in eUSA, our Reserve functions the same way (better actually). This is why our Foreign Policy is what it is. It respects our need for peaceful relationships above us.

I admit I opposed the tax increase for purely personal reasons. I didn't want my personal donation to the Federal Government to be increased through taxes. I am like Marcel the Great (https://www.erepublik.com/en/article/open-letter-from-eusa-s-1-tax-payer-tripled-taxes-cripled-economy--2658549/1/20) who pays more into the system than even I do.

Clearly the majority in Congress wanted the increase. So we make do.

If we would see a better ( and more transparent ) USE of said money, a tax hike would be justified.
Sure we would grumble a bit more but we could push our boundaries and grow.

My 0.02$

fwiw, the entire flow of cash in and out of the reserve is monitored by Congress. Congress controls both the CBO and the SCI voting. Congress has access to all budget allocations and gets monthly updates about past off-budget spending.

We have an extremely transparent system.

Raise the import tax at least. We're getting competition from outside the country at unfair prices.
Hurt them a bit, either they come here and pay int o our budget or they don't sell here AT ALL.

Updates are not all transparent they are vague at best.

@2503830 -
I don't think raising the import tax is wise either. eRepublik economies flourish in a "free markets" mentality. This has been tested and tried throughout eRep's history. It is always the open markets which thrive.


@HWF -
The dollars themselves are all 100% accounted for. I tell you this as someone who regards himself as your friend.

Where I will agree with you about the need for increased transparency is in DoCA. The details in those books are not available to congress afaik. (AFAIK, Congress doesn't even know whether or not those books are kept in detail). I do not suspect any illicit activity, I am merely pointing out where the least degree of specificity exists in terms of overall congressional spending.

The second area where Congress could do a better job of extracting detail is in more specific details in SCI-approved spending. The SCI expenditures technically bear Congress' stamp of approval, but I don't think Congress knows, in the long run, which specific mini-battles received what specific funds (for instance).

So while I completely disagree with anyone who claims that Congress doesn't know where money is going, I completely agree that there are SPECIFIC details which Congress has not done a good enough job of extracting.

@Gnilraps, re: DoCA books, those are absolutely transparent and have been provided in several public areas along with detailed reports provided in budget discussions.

http://eusaforums.com/forum/index.php/topic,44000.0.html
http://eusaforums.com/forum/index.php/topic,43828.0.html
http://eusaforums.com/forum/index.php/topic,43689.0.html

http://eusaforums.com/forum/index.php/topic,43613.0.html

Thank you @Rainy - I had never wandered in there to take a look. I believe that about wraps up any claims to lack of transparency. I could see trying to press the CP for more detail on how much money is being spent per division per mini per campaign, but w/e.

Why are you forcing people who play this game in the eUSA to register on this filthy phishing, browser-exploiting pig-disgusting private forum??


WHY???


W H Y ? ? ? ?

Gnil, you are the worst kind of elitist-pig: you always change your mind when you see it goes along the thinking of the majority.


You re disgusting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are the traitor of the SFP Revolution.

You are the biggest liar in the whole e-universe!

lol, Now let me think about this. We raise taxes to raise the reserve so we can motivate our defense with COs, if need be. The raised taxes actually discourage producers and fighters (Marcel is also a good fighter and he can well support a multitude of fighters) from defending or having an interest in defending eUSA.

For that matter large COs are needed at times but there are fewer and fewer fighters in game as a whole. Why does the reserve need to be higher when the COs are provided for fewer and fewer fighters?

Also motivation of fighters by large COs, as opposed to some actual interest in the national defense, seems to double back to the problem. Fighters and producers are run off by taxation for the purpose of luring fighters with COs??? Ya know the other day some guy was bitching at me about taking his BH. I bitched back I was fighting for "our side" They could have the BH if they would see "our side" won. I was ridiculed for thinking there was an "our side". Its more and more "what can I make here" in battles these days.

If raising a huge pile of money for COs is the only way to lure fighters for our defense, you then cannot blame fighters for only being motivated by COs! Marcel, and all of us that are more economic or military beings in this game, are going to move and fight based on economic considerations.

I would like to add one thing. Many players have bots that fight for them when they are not online to maximize their health regeneration . These bots often fight for eUSA in RWs that are part of training wars. Why aren't these folks pointed out as treasonous? I have often had to set my DO, and fight myself, to help the resistors in these efforts. Now fighting on the resistors side is not as profitable as for the eUSA side, TP and all you know. Certainly there are those that would have to think about this when we move to a world where fighters may more readily fight for the TP side to pay for their lost income due to increased work taxes.

Bad idea. Join RSP and fight back.

I have more than 500 factories in eUSA and planning to leave.

I am curious would the expense of moving that many companies not be a waste of euros. I'm asking honestly not being critical.

V+S+Comment
https://www.erepublik.com/en/article/ljudskost--2658524/1/20
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I do not mind the taxes i can just raise prices!

eventually my goods will not sell and i will have to fire workers.

then i will not profit enough to continue to fight. and i will go into hibernation.

then usa will get attacked and i will have nothing to fight with!

under the occupation we will have low taxes and i will be able to work again and hire workers!

then we will be able to get free and the cycle will continue!

it is not a huge deal. i am a patient player. it adds excitment!

I kinda like stability! low taxes provides a nice stable place to be. but high taxes provide a nice exciting changing landscape to play in! so i am not sure which is best!

To be fair i have no idea how the goverment acts and what it implies on the overall game and me as a player . I would like to see some articles that explains those mechanics . tnx in advance

The tax increase was a huge mistake. Moreover they insult American Producers by not raising the import tax. They keep saying it is profitable, and so American Producers can handle it, well if it is so bloody profitable why can't you increase imports!

Spot on!!!

Second that.

My personal opinion, is that personally / selfishly this drops my profits by 6%, but I still make a healthy profit, but I would be making more if we were still @ 1%

As a congressman, I see the need to bulk up our reserves so that we have enough money for Combat Orders to protect our country and to have enough for events (like the anniversary) where people needed extra food and weapons to fight. The government provided nice programs (and they still do).

I would like this tax be temporary, so our big producers continue to produce and do not leave as I think a permanent tax is detrimental to the eUsa in the long term but very helpful in the short term.

Tell me, how much "reserves" do we have?

If you don't know, you better SHUT UP!

I'm afraid we will lose the comparative advantage in production that leads foreign producers to produce and sell in our mkts.

During our last week the average daily income from imports was 15k. If doubled, exporters would stop selling here and even if they continued, it is a tiny drop in the bucket. VAT has averaged 29k in the last week. Again, if doubled, more good move to the black market, and it still is a small increase compared to what the eUSA needs to remain competitive.

While we are not poor or stressed, Not long ago a couple of million dollars could cover a couple of wars and stop most aggression. However, the game is changing, CO's costs are becoming massive, millions can be spent during a single war without blinking. If players want to preserve the resources we fought for and that allow us to produce so much that foreign MU's, massive producers and nations build their facilities here, we must generate enough money to always be able to easily protect ourselves and honor our promises to our allies. The only way to do is to keep our reserve growing at the same rate as CO's throughout the game.

Our only choice is to return to the higher level of work tax we used to have. It will allow us to be as competitive as needed and to easily handle all aggressors. No one wants this, it hurts us all. To imagine that somehow Congress benefits from this is ludicrous.

The alternative to this is to be a weak nation and that is something none of us can afford,

You should really stop talking nonsense ....

try specifics instead of blind comments

I never do blind comments. I wrote the specifics on Marcel's article.

https://www.erepublik.com/en/article/open-letter-from-eusa-s-1-tax-payer-tripled-taxes-cripled-economy--2658549/1/20

Feel free to check the specifics and maybe you would understand how wrong you are.

I read your responses and if the tax increase was based solely on these factors, you would be correct. However, there more issues at play. Most importantly is that the economics of the game have changed over the last few months. CO's are much larger in term's of overall pots of money being used in conquest battles. The intrusion into Mexico by Iran is a prime example, and there are plenty more. We need to remain as competitive as we can, which means being prepared to compete on the CO level. You are purportedly a smart guy, do a study of recent COs in real conquest battles, not TW and you will see what I am talking about. National strength in this game means money and this tax will allow us to continue to be competitive against those who seek to harm us and our allies.

Animis is a complete idiot!

How much do we have in our reserves???

Tell us, I dare you!!!

No dear, you will lose the competitive edge the eUS has, just by doing what you said, because you will start losing businesses that generate your income. A small scale flee bottom producers like me might be stuck here, because the overall cost of moving their businesses will exceed greatly their loses, but keep those Work taxes for more than a month and you will lose some of the biggest tax payers, like Marcel, for example.

By being a stable tax heaven you guarantee:
- the stable long term increase in the eUS taxes -> income -> treaasury
- the national security of the eUS cores - as most of the world's businesses are located here (personal/national/MU), who do you think will want to cut off his supply line by letting someone mess with its sweet high resource bonuses tax heaven? And if such an occasion is to occur - how long will those people be able to keep up with no supplies???

As for the COs - I have checked them

The eUS (WO) spent close to 9.7 mln for the WHOLE campaign in Mexico. THE WHOLE CAMPAIGN.

Bare in mind that this is in the peak of the Plato's anniversary free damage - every zombie/multi had >1 bln dmg in its storage.

How much do you think will the Mexican campaign cost in a post anniversary scenario? Do you think that much money will be needed to defend the eUS and its allies? Especially given the point I made about players protecting their supply lines/ self-interest.

From what you have seen in your years long experience in the game - do you think the Iranian "intrusion" was serious? They didn't even try to defend a single RW in Mexico and we didn't try to stop their progress in the Direct wars. It was more like a CO hunt with Plato bombs TW.

Do you see my point now, cause I am really tired of fighting with windmills?

Feynmann, I hear you with respect to creating an attractive tax haven. It is a direction that could be further developed and despite the nationalism that prevents many from making sound economic decisions, many more could be attracted to the eUSA to produce their goods than are currently here. Not sure how many more would come.

I also agree that the CO's during the Mex/Iran war were impacted by the event they are not the only ones that have gotten much higher recently.

In any event we need to bring our reserve up to remain competitive. If the trend toward higher overall CO's continues upward we may need to see these taxes for a little while. We all, and I mean all of us, hope to see overall CO's level off so we can lower these taxes. No one wants these taxes. All of us in Congress are paying these taxes also. None of us are happy about them. However, we, as a national need to be very resolute in protecting all we have, which includes our allies, especially our closest ones.

We have a simple goal; to have enough in our reserves to be able to turn-away multiple attacks because we can command massive and immediate heavy tanking and airpower by using CO's with our fighters and airman. This is not only reasonable but I would be very upset if my government were not doing this. Defending the homeland is very important especially considering the wealth of resources that we have.

"The wheel is turning, but the hamster is dead".

Do whatever you see fit, I give up.

I think you’re missing the forest for the trees.

If so many staples of the military world have their production headquartered here, why would they involve themselves in a war of conquest that puts said production at risk? As soon as the commune hokder’s country declares eUSA as Natural Enemy their production stops.

We have more than adequate power to defend our borders. It’s just a soft power only available to people with the wit to see it. It is NOT a hard power lever that congress can threaten people with. Power dynamics have changed post Redpurce Wara II. Maybe that’s the root of the problem?