Citizens of Canada it is Time
Day 553, 20:12
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by Tantis
When in the course of human events it becomes necessary for one person to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's god entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
Canada we have a choice and a right that is not in the Constitution but is given to us, to uphold our security. Many of you may have heard these words before and I post them here rephrased as a right that cannot be taken from us.
"We hold these truths to be self-evident that all Men are created equal they are endowed by their creator with inherent & inalienable rights; that among these are life, & liberty, & the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights governments are instituted among men,
deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, & to institute new government, laying it's foundation on such principles, & organizing it's powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety & happiness." - Declaration of Independence 1774
These words not only are true in Real Life but are true here as well. Even the Constitution; Article 7: The Articles of Allegiance states:
* Rights not mentioned. The guarantee in this Charter of certain rights and freedoms shall not be construed as denying the existence of any other rights or freedoms that exist in Canada.
All of the above mentioned rights and freedoms are guaranteed by this document, unless their violation can be justified as being in accordance with fundamental justice within a free and democratic society, and are subject to reasonable limit within a free and democratic society.
This was taking straight from the Constitution of the United States of America. Therefore the right noted in a real life document the above right taken from the DoI, is a right that is given to us here now in Canada.
It is up to us the people, to decide what is right and good for us. This includes whether or not we believe that the current government is at fault in the CAD stolen the last term under Bruck and his Administration and the org this term controlled by the CAF under Bruck and his administration. We have been told time and time again that its under control or that its being investigated yet, we seen that the current government has its flaws even if they do not have access to the said account. Yes it can happen to any Prime Minister. but to happen twice each time to the CAF each time under the same Administration. We have a right now lets use it, even though we cannot do anything directly we can through freedom of speech. This is not treason or against the law to speak against the government. Its time to speak now.
Bruck there is an old saying "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me." You were fooled at first when the CAD was stolen the first time, and now again when the ORG under the CAF was stolen. You may not have access to the account directly you are not responsible but indirectly you are as being CinC.
I stand with my words when I say you to are responsible in what ever happens to any CAD or any ORG. You then must suffer the consequences.
Canada we have a choice and a right that is not in the Constitution but is given to us, to uphold our security. Many of you may have heard these words before and I post them here rephrased as a right that cannot be taken from us.
"We hold these truths to be self-evident that all Men are created equal they are endowed by their creator with inherent & inalienable rights; that among these are life, & liberty, & the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights governments are instituted among men,
deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, & to institute new government, laying it's foundation on such principles, & organizing it's powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety & happiness." - Declaration of Independence 1774
These words not only are true in Real Life but are true here as well. Even the Constitution; Article 7: The Articles of Allegiance states:
* Rights not mentioned. The guarantee in this Charter of certain rights and freedoms shall not be construed as denying the existence of any other rights or freedoms that exist in Canada.
All of the above mentioned rights and freedoms are guaranteed by this document, unless their violation can be justified as being in accordance with fundamental justice within a free and democratic society, and are subject to reasonable limit within a free and democratic society.
This was taking straight from the Constitution of the United States of America. Therefore the right noted in a real life document the above right taken from the DoI, is a right that is given to us here now in Canada.
It is up to us the people, to decide what is right and good for us. This includes whether or not we believe that the current government is at fault in the CAD stolen the last term under Bruck and his Administration and the org this term controlled by the CAF under Bruck and his administration. We have been told time and time again that its under control or that its being investigated yet, we seen that the current government has its flaws even if they do not have access to the said account. Yes it can happen to any Prime Minister. but to happen twice each time to the CAF each time under the same Administration. We have a right now lets use it, even though we cannot do anything directly we can through freedom of speech. This is not treason or against the law to speak against the government. Its time to speak now.
Bruck there is an old saying "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me." You were fooled at first when the CAD was stolen the first time, and now again when the ORG under the CAF was stolen. You may not have access to the account directly you are not responsible but indirectly you are as being CinC.
I stand with my words when I say you to are responsible in what ever happens to any CAD or any ORG. You then must suffer the consequences.
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Are you saying he should resign?
@Emilio this was not towards Bruck its to the People, he wont Resign most of us already know that. But after all thats happen I do not think its up to him to decide if hes responsible or not. That is the peoples Decision. And the more Votes the article gets shows how many people believe he should and that he is responsible no matter how many times he says he is not or if he did not have access. 8 Votes and only being published 28 minutes ago that's pretty good, so far.
The government answers to the people not the other way around. Remember that.
Thanks for clearing that up. I was just wondering cause I thought thats what you meant when you said... "You then must suffer the consequences."
Good article.
Thank you, and i can see how you came to that conclusion, when I put that up there, I meant that whatever happens while he is in office he must deal with what ever storm the media and the citizens of Canada throw at him even if they are attacks, a true leader will learn from his mistakes and oblige to his/her people not ignore them.
Bruck has asked others to step down over this same issue even though they weren't technically responsible. Although he is in no way directly responsible. As a good leader with the same issue twice in his administration, if he actually felt accountable, he would step down.
I think Sonny Chiba should step down.
I think a little leprechaun has just posted in my article, hows it going Augustus its been a long time my friend.
Ok I am sure people are going to disagree with me but I have to say it.
You are comparing real life to a game. I like that his game is trying to emulate real life but in real life there are jails, courts with real power, no admins and most of all no multi accounts.
In real life if someone had stolen money from a government agency, the reactions would have been very different. The suspects wouldn't be allowed to leave the country, the government would have frozen their assets and there would have been far more security in place to prevent such a theft.
My point is that it is the games limitations that allowed this to happen. That and someone who was corrupt and unethical enough to go ahead and do it. The truly sad fact is that in real life there would be consequences, however in this game there will most likely be none.
in the eWorld we just don't have the power we need to punish those responsible and to recover that which was stolen. If you want to hold someone responsible for the theft, aim at the admins. It is just as wrong to hold someone responsible for the limitations of the game as to take the funds in the first place!
Bottom line is this is not the real world.
True it is not the real world. Wrong in that the limitations of the game do not allow us to do anything. My friend the pen is mightier than the sword, here the word of pen, is mightier than all, including admin. They have created the game and they moderate it but whom do they moderate it for? The players. If they did anything that would compromise game play, they are accountable and suffer the consequences. The difference about Bruck and admin is they know when they are wrong and they publicly say so and fix what they have done and that is nearly 85% of the time, the CAD and money being stolen has nothing to do with the admin or the game limitations. It has to do with the fact that a government has failed in securing its own funds and organizations therefor is not capable of administering a country, if they can not administer themselves.
Real life and the game are not so different, its only as different as we decide to make it.
but limitations have everything to do with the game. If the current administration had recovered the lost funds everything would have been fine. The game gives leaders absolutely no chance of recovering the stolen funds. There is no chance at righting the wrong and no chance at earning any form of forgiveness.
I would also like you to consider that 90g is far far less than the first theft. 91% less actually. Would it then not be unreasonable to say that the security measures implemented since the first theft have been a overwhelming success?
So really this is a glass half empty or glass half full situation.
Yes it unfair to say that the securities implemented after the first best did not help but the fact of the matter is that assets are gone.
Recovering the funds, yes we will not be able to, but its not going to be returned by the admins unless we fight for it. Which many people may not do. But the funds are no longer the issue, its the fact that the government is still flawed. And it is still the leaders fault.
We are not asking for a form of forgiveness, we are asking for him to state that he is responsible as CinC.
As for punishment, articles such as this one, and many others can ruin ones reputation that is punishment enough in game such as this one especially for one who has strong aspirations.
@Augustus Baldwin If I were in charge I would.
If you all agree with this article, then you will agree with my article as well.
Bruck should consider stepping down I agree. Twice in the same government.. I would step down if it were me. but that is just me
So would I
i agree that Bruck should stepdown, only because it is wierd that in 2 consecutive months that we lost military funding.
Yes, I want my ammo for my plastic guns 😜
You forget, yes it's the 2nd time it's happened, but the first time was under last month's term. He was up for re-election, the people knew all about the last CAF scandal, and THE PEOPLE voted him back in.
While I agree that a lot more care needs to be taken with who gets appointed to do what and who's given access to orgs and funds, the fact is this game is filled with people who've had years experience fooling others with their anonymity. There's no possible way to create a government with 0% risk and I feel that Bruck should not be held accountable unless he has direct involvement in either the organization or with appointing the head of the organization.
What do you, the Canadian people want? Do you want a scape goat or do you want the person responsible for this?
I say we don't cry and yell for his resignation, instead let the people know what happened and let his course run. See what the Canadian people want come next election, not what a presidential candidate who lost to Bruck last election wants.
I can't believe this was written by a Canadian...Constitution???
Go back home Yank.
In Canada we have a Charter of Rights And Freedoms, not a Constitution. And to quote the declaration of independence????
It makes about as much sense as quoting say...a Mexican political document or Marxist theory...just because we are close geographically please don't assume that America's politics or sovereignty resemble their Canadian counterparts in any way.
I even as a CSD member, do not think that Bruck should resign. There is too much going on right now and the presidential elections are coming up soon. Also Bruck had no relation to the second theft of the CAF funds. True he is partially at fault of course, but 90 gold shouldn't be enough to rip apart the country.
Andy,
Actually, eCanada has a constitution: http://ecanada.forumotion.com/the-canadian-university-of-erepublik-f9/constitution-of-ecanada-t455.htm" target="_blank">http://ecanada.forumotion.com/the-canadi[..].htm
This isn't addressing your comment, but I just wanted to point this fact out.
First of all
@pm: I don't care whether I lose or win, its all about the fun and giving the other candidates a run for the money. This is not saying I will not do my best to campaign and win, but if i lose I try gain, not cry over spilled milk.
And I stated three times in this article that I am not asking for his resignation, I'm asking him to take responsibility, and state that he to is responsible even he himself did not directly have access into the account. It has happened to the Same department twice, and twice that person has gotten away. Read, before you make an premature remark.
@Andy: Show some maturity, and watch what you say, I can easily say I took offense to your comment and it can easily get you banned.
Second Andy, research before you say something as to make less a fool of what you are making now. Go to the ERepublik Wiki, head to Canada's' page and you will see that it is named Constitution of the Federation of Canada, for this game, that's stupidity number one on your part. Second if you are smart enough, Bruck, Adam even Zanalan were to lazy to create the whole document by scratch, you can copy and past parts of it scan it then place it over three other documents, yes three unlike yourself I do my research, all three being American documents, The Bill of Rights, The Magna Carta and the Deceleration of Independence. Hence why I quoted them, or have you forget that nearly 70% of our Prime Ministers are American? I do my research.... Its time that you do yours.
thank you dabman
90 gold is a lot of whoring
I think articles like this raise interesting and disturbing points. Not about the theft itself but about precedent for future governments.
If Bruck steps down over this second theft. When he was not and could not be personally responsible for it. What does that mean for the next President? If there is a theft during their Presidency, if we follow this logic to it's conclusion, shouldn't they be immediately impeached? They will have run on promises to fix the problem, to ensure security and in this example, have obviously failed.
Bruck made changes, obviously helpful changes, but this is a process. Let's dial the rhetoric down to 5 and let Congress and CSIS work to improve security (we are as I write this) because this is frankly unavoidable regardless of what party is in power. The Chinese have a saying (I am paraphrasing) The tighter the laws the more thieves are made.
So lets accept that changes are ongoing, our money is more secure now than a month ago. Calling for resignations and reshuffles sounds nice, and is the most counterproductive way to protect our assets available to us, if it actually takes place.
@Tantis, I'm sorry that I wrote my previous comment before reading your last lengthy post, I hate that not all comments are shown unless you click the little button. You didn't call for his resignation, and I wasn't attempting to say you did. I was responding to you, and the previous comments as a whole.
Also, the Magna Carta is a British document limiting the powers of the Monarchy.
"What do you, the Canadian people want? Do you want a scape goat or do you want the person responsible for this?"
Exactly.
This is just some populist nonsense, using the misinformation and aggravation of the people, in regards to corruption and theft in the game, to manipulate a distrust where it doesn't belong. Bruck had absolutely nothing to do with this. He had no governance over the organization involved.
You used 'guilty by association'-- using the link that he is associated by being the leader of Canada, and this happened in Canada. So instead of deductively working, like everyone else is, to try to figure out what went wrong, how and who exploited the game, you slander people for the most ridiculous links. Not to mention shamelessly using populist rhetoric, which in this context means nothing, to further your own shenanigans. That's right, I'm calling shenanigans.
Here's a quote for you, from the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms: " Any person charged with an offence has the right ...to be presumed innocent until proven guilty according to law in a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal"
Until you can indicate a link beyond it happening in Canada, and Bruck, in fact, being Canadian, I'd leave his name out of your smearing
Perhaps as a prominent eCanada politician you should be quoting the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. I know one eCanadian you've just alienated by suggesting that we should follow the ideals set out for our friends to the south rather than forging our own identity.
Andy: In eCanada we have a Constitution not a Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
Pmzqonxw: Bruck appointed the head of the organisation that has lost the assets.
Second reason is so the population can see, what they need to do next month in elections, vote a new party into office and watch them make things better or worst. No matter who you vote into office this can happen. But we need a leader whom can take responsibility for whatever happens to there administration, or assets belonging to the government. Not deny he was not responsible, twice.
Now I'm surprised that Bruck has not commented here yet, I'm looking to debate with him on the issue.
Like other people, I thought for a while there you were asking that Bruck step down. That would be unnecessesary, might as well wait for elections to decide that. Taking responsibility or addressing the issue before the elections is another matter. Just because Bruck has not commented here does not mean he will avoid the issue - that would be a bit foolish. He'd have to deal with it before election time, unless he is not planning to run.
I lol'd @ Andy.
We all know that canadian rights and U.S ones are REALLY similar.
And .. we have a constitution.
firstly i wont you to admit that bruck has done a great deal of good for this country more, as i see it, then bad. maybe if he had been a sloppy president, or a so-so one, he should step down over this but i have seen enough good happen to ballance out the bad.
i do think that this problem should have been fixed but i dont believe that progress hasn't been made.
and don't try and discredit my comment by saying "i am not asking him to step down" you clearly stated that you would step down in his place. so you do wont him to step down your just being sly about it
In Canada, we usually don't think it's a good idea to mix religion with politics...
By the way, how did we end up with the US declaration? What happened to the Canadian charter (which I think is a better document anyway)?
How stupid are you to quote the "American" constitution if you are Canadian. Unless you are an American trying to bring down its ally by propaganda. Or you could be a foreigner trying to set us up for another political takeover.
@Jadon: No one is asking him to step down.
@JP im quoting it because that where half our Constitution comes from.
@Fugdey: In real Life im American, in game im Canadian its where i started its where I will end. Im here to do my best to help this country and its people.