[Tib] eIrelands Damage Broken Down By Every MU
Tibulus
After logging on this morning I saw this article by Fionn McCool showing MU’s by damage percentage and membership numbers. The point of that article seemed to be to publicise the split in our nations damage and encourage further movement into the State MU.
He did however leave out Libertad. His reason being that we were neutral in Irish affairs and followed our own agenda. Which is completely true. But it does deny his graph the benefit of showing every MU, and skews the graph somewhat. I would say it affected the numbers, but none were given in that article.
So now I have put together a damage breakdown including every single Military Unit in eIreland. I have done this for eIrelands weekly and monthly figures. This is due to the potential for individual tanking to have impacts on short term data, so it is useful to see a longer term view which should be less affected by such.
All figures taken from egov. I have totalled all of the units damage to find the country total, then represented each unit as a percentage of the total. All figures were rounded up to 1 decimal point of accuracy, and therefore will not add up to 100. The margin of error is within 1 %. Due to this the graphs are slightly out from the actual figures. They are purely a quick visual reference, and the true figures are listed below them.
*Note that the MU Executive Authority is listed in only the monthly graph due to not having recorded any damage this week
eIreland weekly damage= 1’711’958’720
Irish Army = 33.7 %
Libertad Ireland= 28.7 %
The Wild Geese= 9.3%
Labour’s Army= 4.7 %
Rollta Bais= 3.4 %
Irish Citizen Army= 3.3 %
Libertad Na hEireann= 2.5 %
Veritable Irish Patriots= 2.8 %
Continuity Irish Army= 1.4 %
Irish Volunteers= 2.4 %
Saoirse= 1.5 %
Irish National Army= 1.1 %
Irish Airborne Brigade= 1.4 %
Na hIolair= 0.9 %
Troid Na hEireann Arm= 0.8 %
Galloglass= 0.6 %
Boot Camp= 1.6 %
Celtic Warrior= 0.8 %
Sons Of Dublin= 0.2 %
Irish Peoples Army= 0.3 %
E.A.M.U D4-2= 0.01 %
Executive Authority= 0 %
eIreland Monthly Damage= 5’502’557’800
Irish Army= 32.3 %
Libertad-Ireland= 19.4 %
The Wild Geese= 12.2 %
Labours Army= 4.5 %
Rollta Bais= 3.4 %
Irish Citizen Army= 6.1 %
Libertad Na hEireann= 2.8 %
Veritable Irish Patriots= 3.3 %
Continuity Irish Army= 1.4 %
Irish Volunteers= 3.4 %
Saoirse= 1.8 %
Irish National Army= 0.54 %
Irish Airborne Brigade= 1.6 %
Na hIolair= 0.85 %
Troid Na hEireann Arm= 1.2 %
Galloglass= 0.93 %
eIrish Boot Camp= 1.8 %
Celtic Warrior= 1.4 %
Sons Of Dublin= 0.27 %
Irish Peoples Army= 0.75 %
E.A.M.U D4-2= 0.0046 %
Executive Authority= 0.13 %
I hope this was informative if nothing else. Despite my membership of Libertad I fully agree with the sentiment expressed by many that eIreland has far too many MU’s for our relative size, and it would be of great benefit to the nation to consolidate into the state sponsored units.
Thank you for reading.
Comments
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Go Tib. Did not realize we were doing that good.
You only get cred for your daily tasks completed. I have tested it with a 300 kill BH where our kills where only listed as 25. So in fact this is totally worthless stats just like the real stats from which it was drawn.
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"You only get cred for your daily tasks completed."
No that is not true. It records the kills and damage perfectly. The damage and kills it records match up to what can be seen in ereps own damage counters in battles.
Nah, I think not including Libertad-Ire in the graph showed it better - its looking at Irish (opposed to neutral or whatnot) damage which isn't be directed by the state.
In Fionn's, MU's damage fragmentation shows usable influence available, but the extent of fragmentation shows what of that damage may or may not be directed to the correct battle. Libertad's damage could be counted as negative if its against state orders, rather than just the wrong battle.
Libertad-Ireland isn't always pulling in the opposite direction Seanan. We are an Irish MU, and we count towards Irelands stats. Leaving us out gives a false representation.
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Interesting information, Tib.
No, that's my point; It gives a false representation including Lib-Ire damage when the topic is about the potential of directing eIreland's damage into State/EDEN prios. If INCI opened up a MU in eIreland, they would be contributing to eIrelands stats as well but the differentiation between total damage and directed damage is the subject.
Seanan from where your looking at it from you are perfectly correct.
However if the potential for directing damage involves organising citizens into a controlled MU, surely even those in Libertad have to be included. The potential exists for them to join the IA, same as it does for all the rest.
@Seanan My point exactly. Libertad aren't an asset to Ireland regardless of how much damage they output. At best they make Ireland look a little better to our allies but that's practically irrelevant.
Yeah, Tibulus, I'm making the assumption that isn't a possibility based on Lib-Ire being neutral/international/independent/etc. There has been alot of incontinently on Lib-Ire's political stance, but no obligation to state/alliances has always been the impression.
A good measure of how supportive a MU is there true patriot points. 5 mebers of Libertad Ireland have done over 100 Million for Ireland. Would be a good anysis to see what these totals are for each MU and average per player. I am proud to have done 61 million for Ireland when they needed it.
That would be a poor measure as you will have individual non-eIrish allies who would have higher true patriot points than majority of eIrish if those individuals had Irish citizenship. Romper has put down more than damage in eIreland than the majority of eIrish, but 61 million is a drop in the ocean for that man.
Not to mention, true patriot points don't account for helping allies. You could have a high patriot point ranking, and still fight against eIrish allies.
^Beat me to it.
But I have the calculator out anyway due to curiosity : P
Patriot points only show quantitative measure of support for eIreland if you consider us in isolation or exclusive from EDEN. Which we are not, we are part of a global theatre hence we feel the impacts of non-patriot battles on eIreland's welfare.
Kinda links to my point Tibulus that Lib-Ire often not considered part of "directable" Irish military units, hence excluded from stats about state affairs,as the state can only direct those who acknowledge eIreland prios = alliance prios.
Seanan I understand completely where you are coming from there. If the MoD was talking about how much damage we do I certainly wouldn't butt in and tell him to add our numbers in on top. I'd be happy to know we weren't considered among the directable units : P
This was purely a product of my own curiosity, after seeing us left out I just wondered how things would look if we were included.
Nice article Tibulus. I agree with Libertad's being left out of Fionn's article, but it's nice to see a different picture as well.
Libertad-Ire does contribute to eIreland, directly in many cases, and indirectly through the goodwill that they bring to us - that's not a tangible asset, but it is valuable. At the same time, Lib-Ire is explicitly independent from our MoD, and that puts them in a very different category from any other MU that I know of in eIre.
I think the biggest importance to both charts is to show Irish MU relevancy for supporting IRELAND. (Hence the True Patriot chart being added as well) Being that each Libertad primarily focuses on fighting for the nation they are stationed in, if we were to go to war then their primary prio would be to protect Ireland. For this I think they should be included, and are an asset to our nation.
You only get cred for your daily tasks completed."
No that is not true. It records the kills and damage perfectly. The damage and kills it records match up to what can be seen in ereps own damage counters in battles.
not true i will track my now kills for today in 5 minutes time when the next battle start. I personally made +- 77 kills we will see my MU damage.
egov what is that a fan site of the game. anyway i meant the "rankings" is wrong in eRepublik itself
Ho-Hum.
Let's see, OK, I'll use the ***Official MoD*** hat for this thread.
The MoD sincerely welcomes having Libertad-Ire as one of this countries' premier military units. While we would prefer that they were part of a more cohesive Irish MU structure, we understand that their ethos will sometimes ensure that they fight on opposing sides from our allies.
However, there is no doubt that they fight on behalf of Ireland the vast majority of the time.
Simply put. Would you prefer them in, or out? If in, then show some respect.
We are really good looking lads. Voted.
Nice work Tib
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Impressive contribution by Libertad, good job!
I would of course still include them into any "irish damage" graphs, just because they are not following irish governmental orders, doesnt make their damage any less irish.
On another note I was surprised to see the ICA perform so badly? Have they dismantled or something?
You're looking at my graph solely and not considering the context with which it was made.
My article was about attracting soldiers who are members of private MUs that claim to fight for Ireland and/or EDEN back into the Irish Army. The graph was making a comparison between the IA and these MUs, showing the public how much influence is potentially lost. According to Libertad's mission statement they are an MU who aid lesser countries fight off invasion and regain independence.
Officially they only prioritize Ireland in the event of an invasion, they were therefore respectfully irrelevant to my piece. I was actually afraid that including them in the article might of insulted them as it would of been disrespectful.
Still dunno why there's two branches by the way!
Nice article, subscribed.
"just because they are not following irish governmental orders, doesnt make their damage any less irish." x2
Curiosity killed the cat, Tib.
@insecureLibertads
It wasn't a performance report.
Fionn's article was about organizing Irish damage into State/EDEN prios; unless Libertad members disagree that their MU has no potential to adopt an everlasting obligation to eIreland and Alliance prios, then considering Lib stats in statistical graphs about organizing Irish MUs who do give an obligation eIreland and alliance prios would be entirely pointless.
Seanan, Fionn
Thats fair enough, nobody seems to be questioning the thought beind Fionns original article.
But I have to admit that I dont understand the purpose...if you want to show how much damage is potentially lost but include only MUs that follow governmental orders, the aswer would be "zero" by definition, or am I missing something?
Yeah, missing the "thought". At least, from what I have gathered.
Those Irish MUs do not have an obligation to follow State orders, but are committed to eIreland (EDEN inclusive). Underlying acknowledgement - These MUs are not functioning efficiently in unilateral coordination, DOs are being set for eIreland and EDEN but not always getting correct prios, limiting the impact of Irish damage in important battles.
Starkad. The bulk of our members were sent to the IA.
The MUs in Fionn's article reflect that. Whereas, Libertad is independent from EDEN - they support eIreland certainly but the organization is not within alliance framework. Individual members of Libertad-Ire have potential to join a centralized Irish MU, but the ethos of Libertad is non-obligation to alliances. Including Lib-Ire stats would be incomparable.
To me this article just illustrates how many useless MUs we have in his country. These usually result in wasted/misdirected damage.
Didnt read all the comments but plz be serious. The part that I hate most is that when people forget. Thus I have to remind you that Libertad-ire fights harder than any other mu in ire. We are only 15 members and we score the 1/3 damage of the country. Secondly, our first prio is always ire. Hence, if ire is attacked of if ire has battles, Libertad will fight hard and we will mobilaze all the other 4 librtads around the world. This means that when ire really needs it we bring here 4 deadly units
+ libe ire.
Finally, it is a good idea not to forget that libe allways preserve ire, our regions, our rights, our plans. And we do it with tons of damage.
So plz dont make me prove to you if libe is an irish mu, as you will me ask you to do what this mu does: prove it in the battlefield.
Read the comments, Thanasis.
You, like other insecureLibs, are missing the point.