Who Pays the Most Taxes?
Hazelrah
This Week I introduce a series on...
The political questions of our time:
What is the best work tax rate?
How much money should the country save to spend on successful wars?
How much money should the country spend on assistance programs?
How much Gold should the country save in our treasury?
How much currency should the country save in our treasury?
Who is paying the majority of our taxes?
What will taxpayers do with the extra money if Congress lowered taxes?
What will taxpayers do if Congress raises taxes?
Is this an econ game, a war game, or both?
In this issue, I aim to shed some light on the question "Who is paying the majority of our taxes?"
Work Tax
The Work Tax each player plays is equal to the average net salary paid in the last 30 days times the percent rate set by Congress. So for example, if the average net salary paid the last 30 days was 293 USD, then at a work tax of 2% I would pay 5.86 USD for every company I Work as Manager (WAM).
At a rate of 3% I would pay 8.79 USD for every company I WAM.
The more companies I WAM, the more products I produce without having to pay someone wages, and the more taxes I pay to the country treasury.
This is also true for Managers with foreign citizenship and US holdings. The only difference is that instead of receiving 100% of the tax revenue, eUSA only received 80% of the tax revenue for foreign citizens. The other 20% goes to their home country.
For employees, the work tax acts as an income tax. At a rate of 2%, instead of making 370 USD in wages, I would make $362.6 and $7.40 would go to the country treasury.
National Tour
I just did a tour of the nation's largest business holdings to see who our biggest producers are and where most of our tax revenue is being generated.
I went region by region, and focused on holdings that had 100 or more companies. For reference, the average citizen has somewhere between 10-50 companies.
Here's what I foun
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Moguls & Tycoons
The top 34 business owners with US Citizenship pay about 13% of our tax revenue.
Marcel the Great owns the most companies at 673, and accounts for an estimated 1.3% of our national revenue on his own. (Estimate calculated by taking current tax cost per WAM, multiplying by # of companies, and dividing by average daily national revenue.)
The most interesting thing I noticed, was just how much of our tax revenue actually comes from foreign citizens with US holdings. Even though only 80% of their tax revenue comes to the USA, they still outpace our own citizens in terms of number of holdings and tax revenue generated.
There are 70 foreign holding companies with more than 100 factories. Here's an estimate of how much the top foreign countries contribute to our tax revenue:
Argentina: 3.1%
Serbia: 2.45%
Bulgaria: 1.72%
Sweden: 1.43%
Norway: 1.08% Jaroslav Kolesnic owns 667 companies in Vermont.
Greece: 1.07%
RoC: 1.03%
Indonesia: 0.94%
Ukraine: 0.93%
So you can see, it's not only US Gold Buyers contributing to our tax revenue. At least an equal portion (if not more) comes from foreign citizens.
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Comments
Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his own brow?
"No," says the man in Washington. "It belongs to the poor."
"No," says the man in the Vatican[1] . "It belongs to God."
"No," says the man in Port Town. "It belongs to Captain Falcon."
"No," says the man in Moscow. "It belongs to everyone."
I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose:
PAKISTAN
Pakistan also has a 2% work tax.
interesting article
Very interesting breakdown. Plus, now we know who the citizens with the most companies are. Not sure how to use that info, but interesting nonetheless.
There is a flaw, unfortunately, in your research.
The Residence page only shows those companies that are associated with Citizens if those companies are located in the region of Residence. Most likely these are WAM'ed companies. It does not show any companies located outside of the citizen's residence.
So for instance, if you go to my residence
https://www.erepublik.com/en/main/city/Santa-Fe/residents
and look at my companies, it says I don't have any.
I don't not.
So what your research may show is a portion of WAM'd production, likely most of it, but surely not all.
I don't know of any means of gathering the full data necessary to generate the kinds of stats you are trying to work with here.
However, I like what you've done with the stats you've got.
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Thanks for pointing this out. I do wonder what percent of producers keep their holdings outside of their region of residence.
All my Air Weapon factories are located outside of eUSA. My housing is diversified in eUSA. And because none of them are where I reside the entire operation remains essentially invisible.
And because I chose no residence, my superpower is invisibility!
I knew this had to be at least a little "off" when I didn't see Gnilraps on the list. You don't get to his level of POWAH without having hundreds of companies.
think you can track number of companies in a region on erep tools not certain whether it shows per producer.
Marcel, in his own pape, recently, noted that he has MANY more in many more places. (as do many of us. It's hard to say 4 SURE.
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I played like Rainy 4 a long time. But how does she get the housing benefits? (expansions, pools... ??
I like it..
Interesting Stats David - I like what you are doing with the data we can collect.
David David David!
good very good
Very interesting stats, although, as Gnil points out, it does not account for holdings outside the region of residence. I was also looking at numbers today, and was surprised how many citizens of other eCountries maintain residences in the eUS. Clearly, from your charts, they have not necessarily chosen the highest bonus regions, either. Thanks for doing the necessary digging to provide this view of our tax income.
That's interesting, my tax contribution is 0.21% in the USA, the remaining 20% that goes to Belgium makes up ~12% of there total daily income xD
That shows the difference in the size of the economies. Fascinating!
How did you get all those information about numbers of companies and everything else?
City Overview pages https://www.erepublik.com/en/main/city/Montgomery/overview
Nice job. Thanks!
Chek my companies in Nevada, I pay in total arround 1200 tax. Nice to know that i'm in top 10 🙂
We can't see your companies in Nevada, because your residence is in Boise. That's the point Gnilraps was making. How many companies do you have in Nevada?
48
Not sure if you can count dead citizen 😛
Good point. I know I removed all the dead citizens from the USA list. Did I miss some foreign citizens?
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Jussi (Swedish)
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I am but a simple farmer, trying to feed my wife and 7 bots >.>
Nice lagging servers making multiple comments 😁)
I sold most of my companies 🙂
Now I sell only WRM and FRM. o7
That what I am trying to works toward as my plan. Right now I have my only holding in Kentucky producing WRM. I like to get a second holding to work on FRM but I don't yet have the money to get a second holding yet.
Sometimes it is better to place the company in the same place. You will need less moving tickets and pollution can be lower so you can have better production despite some less bonus.
V.
*isn't in Top 34*
Well, that's a new goal to set myself.
Gnilraps isn't either, but it's not because he's not a Tycoon 😛
This is closed actually really helpful I have noticed foreign jobs on the market and how much taxes is taken
Not really into the business aspect of the game, but it's interesting to read about it. Especially where taxes come from.
Thanks for the breakdown, David.
Very interesting
Raise rates give eUS citizenship 100% return. Win.
In Nebraska only 660 of my companies are WaM. The other 13 are in the Housing Industry.
In total, I have 1298 WaM companies and I use them all daily.
Everyone who has companies in Florida and Washington has mostly House companies there and doesn't generate as much WaM income as estimated.
Using your estimate of 1.36%, my real contribution via WaM is 1298 / 673 * 1.36 = 2.62%
My ~1000 Employees at on average ~335cc generate ~7700cc a day. Using your Estimate of a National income of 290k, this is another 2.65%.
The VAT generated by my goods (Houses, Food, occasionally Q7 weapons) is somewhere at 2000cc, so 0.69%.
In total I contribute ~5.96% (~17300cc) to the national tax income.
Muh secret is out.
Your data also doesn’t differentiate between worker factories (housing, Q7 weapons, aircraft) and WaM factories. A single Q7 weapons factory will show as “1”, but at capacity will generate one WaM click and 2% of 10 x 350(ish) in salary clipping. Unless it’s a foreign owned factory, in which case you get 80% of one WaM click.
One Q4 house factory will also show as “1”, but generate the same 2% of 10 x 350(ish) in salary clippings and no WaM clicks. Foreign owned house and aircraft factories make no revenue for the US Treasury.
Some data is better than no data, but it’s inportant to be aware of the limitations of what you have.
Again, these are estimates. I think it's a safe assumption to make that no one is just holding worker factories and no WAM. Those who have high numbers of worker factories also have high numbers of WAM factories, so it's a workable proxy.
Also I might wanna add that you got the national tax income wrong, it's way too low. From your data you estimated it to be ~290k.
However, you have to take the "Totals" and add the "Cities Subsidy" to get the entire tax income of the country. This includes all the money that is collected.
Day 3769 for example was an about average day. The Totals is 308.6k, the Cities Subsidy is 34.1k. Together that's a daily tax income of 342.7k cc.
For my previous calculation it means my tax contribution of 17300k cc is about 5.048%
A detail I forgot are foreign countries. For us it's Japan atm.
So, if you want to be 100% correct, you have to calculate Totals + CitiesSubsidy - Japan = 341.3k