Vote KeetnaWilson for IRF PP!
KeetnaWilson
This Party Presidential Election season IRF members will make a critical decision for not only the future of our party, but for the future of our country. Party Members will choose between a system that isn't working, or restoration of true eIrish democracy. It's not a secret. Our current "direct demoracy" system isn't working. One of the biggest decision for this country, attacking the UK, only 8 people voted in the Dublin Commune, a total of 7-1. While this is a majority, the dictatorship brags of true representation of the people, and I think there are more than 8 active people in eIreland.
My Agenda:
As IRF PP I will work for revolutionary agenda, fixing our current system of "direct democracy" that simply isn't working. I will work with other party leaders who are willing to help fix this system, and I will push for an eIreland and IRF better for everyone, not just the junta.
So, January 15th 2017, Day 3343, Vote KeetnaWilson for IRF PP.
Vote KeetnaWilson for A Better Future.
Vote KeetnaWilson for Representation.
Vote KeetnaWilson for Democracy!
Comments
no, there are not more than 8 truly active people....
Indeed there are. 3 of which are in my MU alone. Nice try.
Truly active means spending several hours a day on this game
I am active, but not really active like people used to be 4 years ago...
I'm aware of what active is. My answer still stands.
I would say there are about 15 active players who care about politics. Others rather just play for reaching military goals like BH or SH badges and even others for the opportunitues coming from the economy module. Not to speak about those who are logging in for fun or for gs trolling. 🙂
Good luck o7
You will regret this... you now have me and I love politics 😛
I am genuinely interested about your campaign, mostly on why do you make such assumptions and why do you think your idea will optimize democracy.
When two ideas collide i would really like to see a debate between their carriers, after all isnt top notch Ireland the interest of us all.
The Russian MPP prop got 11 votes in a single thread. Dunno the total.
The Taiwan MPP got 17 total votes.
The Brit NE was an unusually low turnout for the Commune.
As for the "true democracy" you wish to restore,
while I write this a friendly 'true democracy' fights for its existence.
https://www.erepublik.com/en/military/battlefield-new/92202
Their population isn't great. If they lose that campaign they may never recover their sovereignty again.
That is what true democracy promises for you too.
1st - people voted yes on the mexico MPP, and it passed but our government didn't ever actually make the MPP, even though it was voted yes.
And yes, BiH is fighting for true democracy, against a Military Coup, exactly what happened to this country, except that true democracy lost in our case.
Well, IRF supported the removal of the previous regime before the event.
The majority of the military support for eIreland's coup came from members of your party.
The Dublin Commune was created by one of your founders.
The current eIrish government framework is influenced more by the IRF than any other political party. And you say "democracy lost in our case".
The past three presidents have been from by Eire Aonair or Omega Eirann. Right now the main military force is in ICA and the Irish Army leadership, and the Dublin Commune is being run and dominated by EAs and OEs.
*We didn't even have real CPs until after the Dublin Commune coalesced.
*Irish Army does the most dmg nationally both on ground and in the air.
primarily thanks to members of your party.
*EA & OE are only "dominating" the Dublin Commune in terms of political activity. It is not their fault most of your members have little to say. Clearly everybody who requested membership was granted it.
First of all, some ILP members were denied membership. "thanks to members of my party" is all 2 people, BiednyMis and Nerusia, generalizing that to the entire party isn't logical. Also, the dublin commune started mostly two CP cycles ago, both Omega Eirann or Eire Aonair. Also, you still haven't responded to the point showing the government isn't running itself well. They don't always follow what passes in the commune, and much of the voting is on the inside, not in the commune, a risky and unfair way of running government.
You are referring to the Mexican MPP, which was not proposed due to possible MPP stack collision.
There is a whole nother country on the other side of every MPP proposal. It is never entirely up to our voters who we are MPP'd with.
What else ya got?
which ILP members were refused Dublin Commune admittance?
Winston Hope Smith is in the Dublin Commune and he is ILP's leading representative.
Dublin Commune started 141 days ago, almost 5 CP cycles ago
Ok, then you are just disproving your point even more.
You are avoiding every solid point I make and looking for the one sentence you believe can disprove everything I've ever said. What I'm trying to say is the system has a high potential of corruption, and isn't run correctly. All voting should be extremely official, and run in a simple manor. The current method simply allows for too much of the decision making to be made in the junta than in the commune. Half of the votes are usually not even said in the commune. Also, you never responded to my initial point, the IRF is not the heart of the government or the junta.
I didn't say IRF was at the heart of a 'junta'.
I said that IRF has had a major influence over the current structure of our government. This is easily documentable.
I'm sorry if the Dublin Commune is not as straight-laced as you think it should be. Some might think we should be censuring Commune members for publicly broadcasting sensitive government information as we speak.
However, we try to take a less ridged and more understanding approach to game politics.
1st - you don't need to put apostrophes over junta, it's a real word that means a government that took control via military. Also, the IRF doesn't have a major influence that it deserves. Also, saying eIreland doesn't support either side of the BiH coup is not sensitive government information, it is meant to be common knowledge so Irish people knew. Maybe if you participated in politics instead of just criticizing people in it you'd know.
1st- always have a '2nd-' if you're going to begin with '1st-' 😁
2nd- Sluagh was voted into power using an ingame democratic election. He then used his mandated powers to remove corrupt politicians from office. Democratically elected 😕= junta.
3rd- "the IRF doesn't have a major influence that it deserves" lacks any parameters. There is nothing to quantify your statement with.
IRF is 1 of only 3 parties to seat a CP in the last 1/2yr. IRF has held roughly 17% of all CP terms, and holds roughly 19% of our population. Those are really healthy statistics.
4th- You are broadcasting the national political & military intent (incorrectly) over open medium. During the incident in question even. No government can rationally afford to allow that for very long. you are deliberately attempting to cause a political incident.
5th- Your claim of greater corruption threat is poorly supported. eIreland has lost millions in democratic scandals on multiple occasions.
You can only pin 500k worth of embezzlement on eIrish dictatorship, and only if your willing to accuse the previous govenment's dictator, Nogin the Nog, of robbery.
6th- you claim our current system is not working. by what metrics are you substantiating this?
Certainly not by our stable sovereignty.
Or by our best-ever region bonuses.
Or by our continued military success.
Without stating some kind of criteria, you are essentially saying nothing at all.
7th- " I will work for revolutionary agenda, fixing our current system".
"fixing our current system" is not a policy. "fixing our current system by [X,Y,Z]" would be a policy.
The only policies you have expressed in the article or comments are "more power for IRF" and "destroy current system". It is clear to anyone reading that you haven't any plan for creating anything afterward.
2nd - he got dictatorship via Military Coup...
3rd - CP doesn't have any power, there is a dictatorship, it has only started to do something recently, but still it doesn't do much.
4th - It's not incorrect. Also, you were the one who tried to contradict WHS as much as possible. I was simply showing the truth when you tried to deny it.
5th - In dictatorship it takes 1 person to do something corrupt, and something that noone wants (scandals, taking money from treasury, etc), in democracy you need the support of the elected congress, and in a country this size, the active political population.
6th - bad turnout, bi-party domination, voting outside of official message board, potential corruption,
7th - I never said "more power for the IRF" in the article. I made it simple, I want restoration of democracy, power back into the electors hands, in a system that has been proven to work for years. The current dictatorship and government system isn't working, whether we try to set up a working direct democracy or keep a democracy system, the system right now needs to change, because it's only working for the junta that made it.
2nd- because the outgoing government refused to hand over power despite losing the election.
3rd- yep, that is what an ongoing process looks like. Do you imagine you can just snap your fingers and make it happen overnight? 😁
4th- it was incorrect, and it was deliberately so. Dont throw away your own credibility .
5th- it takes 1 person to rob a nation. it takes a whole party of muppets to position that player to do so.
6th- bad turnouts occasionally. but guaranteed opportunity to turn out. natural democracies are plagued with congressional power disruptions. Bi-party or even single party domination is the norm in many countries, democracy or not.
"Voting outside official message boards"? You're joking right? Please name a single democratic eNation that does not have a private government conclave? lmao there is far MORE of that in democracies due to the separation of branch powers.
7th- "I want restoration of democracy, power back into the electors hands, in a system that has been proven to work for years"
Now how would you know what 'years have proven' in this game unless you have not been forthcoming about your true identity? 😉
Oh, gosh this is fun. Well, here it goes:
2nd - In a democracy if you lose the election you don't have power, so if they had power, they won, if they didn't win but have power make it a democracy end dictatorship.
3rd - I'm saying it's a dictatorship so who was elected president don't matter. What matters in dictator and Dublin Commune organizer, both Eire Aonair.
4th - If you participated in politics you would have seen the message. And if it was meant as a fake to keep Foreign Affairs neutral than it was stupid just to send to eIrish citizens.
5th - The commonly used "mult-situation" is a lot less likely than a revolution being organized and Eire Aonair/Slaugh taking the money to "keep it safe" or just to hurt the folks trying to get democracy.
6th - In a congressional system, all voting is official, and one account (not one person with your multie situation) gets one vote there is no way to be corrupt with single accounts, while in "direct democracy" votes are counted by junta, and with many votes not being officially shown corruption is easily hidden and so easy to do.
7th - I've played this game before, but not in eIreland. I was simply referring to the fact the game worked and was popular before dictatorship was added and popularized. Giving people direct power in congressional form makes people want to play more, even if the same power can be attained by the dublin commune, players are more likely to stay knowing they really matter, and their vote shows, and they know have power, and they know corruption in voting isn't happening and they use too many ands.
While I do not participate in national politics, I am very active in eIrish sovereignty. I'm in Dublin Commune thread B, with Winston, who btw already acknowledged his error regarding a recent shout and apologized. You are out there on your own on that issue.
I'm also a chief adviser to the central government.
Just this morning I advised our government not to sanction members of the Dublin Commune over recent events, and instead allow new members some time to acclimate.
Unfortunately I also advised the central government to restrict sensitive information being presented to the Dublin Commune until an understanding has been reached regarding the propagation of government information.
Do you think I have done my job well today?
"I'm in Dublin Commune thread B, with Winston, who btw already acknowledged his error regarding a recent shout and apologized. You are out there on your own on that issue."
Where did you read that Sweet?
in the DC Winston. That's why I made no substantiations.
the uninitiated can merely glean that:
*there was a shout,
*there was an apology.
not a lot of sensitive info to work with there. not that it matters when the players i am responding to have already spelled out government info in as great a detail as they could imagine. But I do my best.
Speaking of doing our best... nice try chump 😁
Ah I get it...I was lead to believe posting in public things said in the commune was against the rules.
I apologised as I did not know.
You then accuse Keetna of same.
You then post what I said in the commune breaking this "rule"
I then ask, in the commune, is there a rule or not and surprise there seems not to be after all.
Jeez (obviously my apology is withdrawn as I broke no rule)
very well. ur withdrawal is accepted. we will begin processing ur request immediately.
Dear Sweet what request?
yours ofc. we try to be as expedient as possible. but out of the office this afternoon. ttyl
or not
No idea what you are on about but maybe you mean you accept the rule that nothing gets posted out side the commune and you will apologise for doing so above...and after which I obviously would reinstate my apology as I don't wish to break the rules either....is that it Comrade
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