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CP eIndia support whatever Norway do next..

Thank you and a big congrats on your battle. Score one for the little guys 🙂

I think you guys had every small nation on their feet for that. Job well done.

Well we're not planning on attacking any country up north so you can keep the same position you've had in the past 2 years. The only agressor here is pacifica. Imo you should talk with them if you don't want to be used.

Also if you don't condone their actions why shout to fight for them. if you indeed want to be 'neutral' you shouldn't shout for any side. Double standards?

i think you have greatly misread the intent of my article friend. I wanted to make some points with this.

-Congratulate and commend all sides for their hard fought battles thus far
-Make it known that we feel caught in the middle
-Let our allies know that we will hold no ill feelings towards anyone
-To tell everyone to have respect for their opponents during these times

I feel like I made all of these points so I think you can understand why I am confused to log on and see your hostility towards me. No where am I talking about condoning anyone single nations actions, nor do I mention any aggressors, nor do I say the word 'neutral' anywhere either. I think your perhaps leaking private convos? So please read the article over and see the true intent of it because you have it all backwards unfortunately.

And me shouting, and the Norwegian MoD shouting battle orders are two different things my friend. I personally don't believe that bringing in yet another country into the region is going to help the situation.

Leaking private convo's?

I stated we do not plan on attacking anyone, fact.
Pacifica has been agressor for while now (has nothing to do with eNorway but like you said you are caught in the middle) fact.
No one said anything about bringing in yet another country.

You are right, "Also if you don't condone their actions why shout to fight for them. if you indeed want to be 'neutral' you shouldn't shout for any side. Double standards?" I wrote this because I(personally) would not like to pick a side when friends fight. I would be neutral. Thing is you or eNorwegian MoD did pick a side by shouting. As you can imagine, after helping you guys time and time again, having had a TW just a few months ago that kinda hurts. I believe we always acted in your best interest. Recently we released your regions when Mexico attacked so that your cores would not be endangered. We were the first to offer help in the latest MTO attempt even securing the support of two alliances to defend your freedom.

I understand you feel attacked, by my comment. I do want to thank you for offering to mediate. But understand that by picking a side to us it feels like a betrayal. On the other side I 100% understand why, we're not stupid.

Also I hope you do stay neutral.

Well clearly no one else understands judging by all of the personal attacks happening against me right now.

eNorway is trying to maintain a neutral stance. Joshua's personal views can differ (though small, eNorway is not politically homogeneous). Moreover, his personal position was based purely on prudence, i.e. wanting to avoid the battles spilling over into our backyard, which is hardly an offensive view anyway.

Respecting core regions is not the same as picking a side, so I'm not sure you should necessarily feel betrayed by Joshua's personal position.

Pacifica isn't your friend, someday you'll realize it.


Regards Joshua

I think you'll understand me when I say that I must take what you say with a grain of salt since your cs nation was the one who was planning to take all of Norway's regions for a prolonged stance.

And I was the one that with this cs gave everything for Norway against Paraguay in their last AS even when Py had MPP with Spain, and I did it because of the thousands times you helped Cuba..

Exactly. Ive parted ways with tens of thousands of my own money to help Cuba's war efforts not to mention the countless times we've put damage into your campaigns.

Just because I personally shouted to hit for Finland doesn't mean Im condoning an invasion on Cuba or Canada or anyone else for that matter. It simply means that there is already to many people in our region, and bringing in an Orion member to be Norway's neighbour doesn't sit well with me considering the planning that you guys have going on trying to bring Bulgaria, Spain and Macedonia here.

In no way am I saying lets invade. Please, stop taking everything to heart and as a personal offence. I thought you guys had a lot more respect for your allies and opponents alike and were smart enough to see the bigger picture. This is getting ridiculous.

correct me if i'm wrong but I didn't really follow the entire convo's but what I remember is that when we opted the possibility we asked you, you said no and we dropped the topic? (seriously, i could be wrong)

Just to clarify, I wasnt doubting about your compromise with your allies, what I was saying was that, according to what I've seen in Norway's battlefields, I dont think that Pacifica's members have been the ones that were there for you when you needed. But I understand that your prio is to keep your country safe, and that you'll have to mess with Pacifica and many other alliances, and it's normal for you to choose that 'neutrality' path. However I don't expect to see Pacifica's countries fighting for you if you need it...but hey, I might be wrong, it's just an opinion.

Regards Joshua and believe that I didnt pretend to offend you or doubt about Norway's attitude with your allies...If I tank hard for you when you need it is because of what I've seen about Norway and the way you support your allies and I like it and that makes me wanna give back all you've given for us

With few exceptions, eNorway would like to call just about everybody a friend, hence our policy goal of staying neutral in this conflict.

In addition, I do not think the standard you implicitly propose, i.e. judging an entire country and its alliances by one individual's personal positions, is the right one, and I think you would agree.

If we were to apply that standard to this comments section, for example, nobody from Pacifica has commented and threatened a "rethink" of support for eNorway, or implied their help for us in the past was a mistake. Individuals belonging to other countries in other alliances have, however.

So, you see, this is not a good standard because other countries in other alliances are, in fact, our friends, and we are theirs, too. Therefore, let's not generalize and rationalize alliances, or assume policy positions based solely on what one individual may have shouted, no matter what the position was.

Josh.....this article doesn't help at all

See above reply on Shawtyl0w's comment. I think you have both greatly misinterpreted my intentions. I thought I was very clear actually.

No, we didn't Josh.

Clearly you have.

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OK then please tell me what I meant since clearly you wrote the article then.

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" I wanted to make some points with this.

-Congratulate and commend all sides for their hard fought battles thus far
-Make it known that we feel caught in the middle
-Let our allies know that we will hold no ill feelings towards anyone
-To tell everyone to have respect for their opponents during these times"

This article accomplished all of that. No need to attempt to read in between the lines dear, because there is nothing there. Or am I not allowed to congratulate everyone on there battle efforts or talk of friendship and respect anymore? To sensitive of topics?

Well then, I have no clue what your interpreting it as. You seem very good at making something appear out of nothing.

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NuRap, if you regret your previous comments enough to delete them, perhaps you should also consider apologizing for perpetuating this significant misconception.

No i deleted for other reasons, bye

I would have expected more from you on this particular issue since you were once an eNorwegian and had significant political access.

However, if you're going to let your comments stand as an indictment of eNorway's loyalty and honor, and judge an entire country based on an individual, then it is only fair that you base your judgment on all the country's individuals,

You may start with me. I suggest you start by looking at my profile, and my Top damage in a campaign.

/me eats popcorn

I'm a loyal norwegian. And I'm not neutral. I have never been neutral. There are countries that I'll ever fight against.
And remember that Sweden and Finland are our best allies. And we never forget...

I understand and respect your position.

But, at the moment, you seem to be being a bit more neutral to Finland than to the UK 😉

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How many more countries do we need in the region? And to be fair I never mentioned the word 'neutral' in the article.

I like your articles.

Thank you very much, that makes one as this one is proving to be un-popular 😛

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Sometimes thats all that needs to be said 🙂

It was pretty clear in the shout box's what side of neutrality you personally were on any way. Trust me it was discussed.

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You said it perfectly.

"you personally"

A short discussion then? Joshua's personal position is not policy. Moreover, his personal position was motivated by keeping the region cleared of complication, and has nothing to do with attacks on Canadian regions. Both he and eNorway are transparent; as you say, he even shouted it. I fail to see the scandal.

Your in the same hole Ireland fell into. It's a nasty one and I wish you the best with it.

Core regions can be respected

RIP Ireland

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I remember when you asked help from Orion during that AS and we did provide that.
Maybe we should not.

Good luck!

o7

Are you also confusing Joshua's position for eNorway's position? Or are just suggesting Orion and eCanada should change their stance on all of eNorway because Joshua personally didn't want eFinland's core regions threatened?

You really think Canada is here to stay?
We're here to help a friend from that the same eFinalnd and have some fun while doing it, nothing else.
He was shouting against alliance who is trying to liberate a friend. Against alliance that helped his country against AS only a month ago.
Check out the stats:
https://www.erepublik-deutschland.de/en/tools/battlewatcher/detail/90773
TOP 5 fighters for you;
#3 at that time Canadian(Orion)
#4 Cuban (Orion)
#5 ex Canadian now Netherlands(Orion)

I am not suggesting anything but there is something wrong in that picture.

As you said, "He was shouting." If he were the MoD, then I would understand you better.

And you did suggest something, quite clearly. Namely, Orion should have thought twice back when helping eNorway in the past, implying that it shouldn't be done in the future. Here's what you said exactly:

"I remember when you asked help from Orion during that AS and we did provide that.
Maybe we should not.

Good luck!"