New Era, No Plans.
Horatio I
New Era propose vote to Natural Enemy(NE) Ireland[*1]
I've just returned to the eUK after a long hiatus. It seems alot has changed but surprisingly even more hasn't. The lunacy of certain groups within this nation is what has always held back some of the most dedicated and intelligent players this world is graced to have.
Who are New Era, what are they doing?
I'm not entirely sure about the foundations of New Era as I wasn't around when their movement began, but as of present their Party President is King Hannibal of ASIA. Notable members include Goku Jones who is banned from the eUK forums, around three times if I recall correctly.
According to their website[*2], they propose a 'New Era' for the eUK with the eUK being ran in-game and not on external forums and chat rooms.
They seem to believe there is an elite cabbal of men that run the UK and believe this so much that current elected New Era Congressmen refuse to work with other legitimately elected Congressmen[*3]
I started reading through a New Era newspaper, ...View from Above, to get an idea on their policies. In the article "Seven days to save your game...AGAIN"[*4] they complain that not conferring the acceptance of a citizen request in the 'private' eUK congress forum will result in a ban from said forum.
This is a perfectly reasonable request. Allowing people unchecked into the country to vote just begs for political problems.
In another article, they state,
"Gamers have witnessed older players attempting to remove powers away from the game into an unelected forum that ebbs away at the rights".
The eUK forums are open to ALL citizens of the eWorld. Anyone who is ELECTED in the UK as a congressmen can gain access to the 'private' section of these forums where congressmen talk politics.
The simple truth remains. There isn't a single thing any person or persons can do outside of this game to cause an effect within the game. That couldn't have occurred by the same people without an external forum.
I fail to see the main aim of New Era as a party. They're anti-establishment, that's a given. Yet what they will actually do when in power? There has been little to no word but judging from King Hannibal's New Era actions today [Edited for Clarity, the blind Yes voting, not the proposal itself], I can only assume death and destruction should they gain this country.
I also invite you to join The eUK Forums.
Crede quod habes, et habes.
His Majesty,
Horatio I, The unpopular
*All views expressed in this article are those of the authors and do not necessarily represent the views of The Unity Party.
1* - http://www.erepublik.com/en/main/law/United-Kingdom/118242
2* - http://new-era-4.me/
3* - http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/thank-you-on-behalf-of-new-era-2145698/1/20 [Last comments]
4* - http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/seven-days-to-save-your-game-again-2141170/1/20
Comments
Referencing seems like a good idea. I hadn't realised Don Dapper was Chairman of NE. Is that role ranked above or below Party President?
It is a bit ridiculous for New Era to claim elitism, then for the PP to propose a NE law without bothering to link it to a discussion. Be interesting for a New Era type to comment on how they decided on this law before proposing it in game...
Ireland propose eUK as a Natural enemy.
eUK congress counter-propose 20 minutes later.
Seems standard practice to cover your 'enemy' rather then hand them a battlefield advantage especially given the nations previous ability to underperform.
*All views expressed in this article are those of the authors and do not necessarily represent the views of The Unity Party.
The elder TUPers will probably tell you that this kind of thing is standard (even good) practice.
Alfa's right, it is standard practice. What isn't standard is voting up that proposal before you talk to the other country's government. In this case leading to 11 yes votes on our side and very much worrying the Irish over nothing.
yeah, Alfa is correct setting up our own counter NE is STANDARD practise in the game. Voting against Government however is completely against "standard" practise.
I never said it wasn't Alfa 😁, its not the proposal. Its the 13 Yes votes that are worrying.
I fail to see the aim of this article.
Counter NE is standard practice and the forum is only open to people who do not critisise the inactives running it when they decide they want a CP Medal or Ministry.
Then why not use the law's discussion link and make an article explaining its a counter proposal?
"only open to people who do not critisise the inactives running it when they decide they want a CP Medal or Ministry."
Open to everyone except Goku, pretty much, a douchebag would be banned after given several chances from any forums in any community of any game if they remain a douchebag. The fact that you are pretty much the only person banned from the forums says more about you than it does about the forums.
LOL More stories coming from the TUP , why is that ?
We now have 10 congress members people want a change
We have had no wars in weeks and weeks during Talon term , people are bored no TP awards, and all TUP is try and slander NEW ERA'S name
If you want a better eUK join New Era, listen to the mouth's of the TUP they sound bitter
@Alfagrem AGREED Ireland went first we followed
Ireland propose eUK as a Natural enemy.
eUK congress counter-propose 20 minutes later.
Seems standard practice to cover your 'enemy' rather then hand them a battlefield advantage especially given the nations previous ability to underperform.
The issue is not with the NE proposal Draper. Its blindly voting yes, without any discussion at all, trying to force two nations too war. Irish Government has reported receiving messages telling to Vote YES, because eUK wants war....
TUP jelly : 3
I am new to this but surely from a common sense opinion the counter proposal was just to cover ourself should Ireland vote YES to war and also it is very apparent that a large percentage of congress do not agree with the current Government and so they are more likely to vote YES to our own proposal as whilst the elected Government doesn't want the war a large percentage of people in the UK do
I for one am a newer player but have had to move abroad to find fun as we have no home based war
>"Open to everyone except Goku, pretty much, a douchebag.........."
So we have an ESO congressman (and a captain in the 'apolitical' Legion) slagging off a NE representative?
Aside from probing that abcess of contradiction.....
The eUK isn't the provoking party so
1. UKPP congressmembers can vote how they wish on the proposal (and many members want an NE)
2. If Ireland don't want a war then they either control their congress or they make the effort to inform our congressmembers.
Given the frequency of these NEs from their side they should 'know their enemy' and have a system in place to prevent inadvertent war.
But I sense the issue of this argument isn't about procedure but more of a 'fling mud, hope it sticks' approach so in the intrest of moving your agenda along....
"I heard NE are actually al-queda prisoners using the free internetz in Guantanamo in the hope of crushing us infidel eNations one by one"
Continue.........
I like how the smallest point (I refer to it in the headline, and again at the end) is what causes all the fuss. The article was about NE policy, or lack there off... I've obviously hit a nerve.
Check the policy articles in my newspaper.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/newspaper/the-radical-freethinker-183864/1
Thank you Goku.
@Cromwell "Open to everyone except Goku, pretty much, a douchebag would be banned after given several chances from any forums in any community of any game if they remain a douchebag"
How do you reconcile this with "We are a party which honours the intrinsic value of each individual, regardless of history, background or activity. "
Looks like ESO congress people don't have to follow their party principles any more
>"I like how the smallest point (I refer to it in the headline...."
If its the smallest point then why is i the 'Headline'?
Why not cut to the chase and put "I hate New Era" so we know the discussion is meant to go that way rather then a debate on the NE procedure and how parties approach that?
The headline is a statement of fact, if I had put "OMG, NEW ERA GONNA START A BRAWL UP IN HERE, HIDE YO GOLDS, Y U NE IRELAND?" I could kinda get your point about the whole NE thing.
Alfa , dude, I remember you being cool and not hostile at all. What's happened?
Lol, Don Dapper.
Goku is permabanned three times over for loads of multiple forum accounts. He also admits to "terrorism" and multiple thefts from the UK accounts and UK players. If that doesn't qualify him as a douchebag, what would?
>"Alfa , dude, I remember you being cool and not hostile at all. What's happened? "
Not being hostile just pointing out you obviously have an agenda in that you want to discuss the NE party and perhaps gain some clarity for us all on what they actually stand for.
I just think you should actually do that rather then dress it up and precede it with some kind of non-event.
"We are a party which honours the intrinsic value of each individual, regardless of history, background or activity. "
He has no intrinsic value in my eyes, he is deceitful and turned what was a promising young party into the "Just wait until Goku screws them over" party. I am an individual, I am allowed my opinion and I see the worth in each other individual. I am allowed not to like someone who I believe is going to not only damage NE with his corrupt BS but also the eUK.
see, thats being uncool and hostile^
Hey, I don't need to be friendly or cool but at least I'm honest and accurate. Don't take me as hostile though since I say things nice and calmly and don't have much of a temper ALRIGHT???
Besides, we're posting comments on an eRep article, I think by proxy we all lost our "cool" factor
Well written Horatio. It's also worth probing NE to see how they function - it seems as though everything comes from three guys in IRC room, howssat for democracy
Also catchy title and nice banner, 10/10
What I find coincidental is the fact that all the people arguing against New Era are in TUP or the Legion. Very coincidental that New Era's opposition is the only one being rude to our members, slammng our
Party (which happens to have 140+ people), and making a rukus over a counter-NE proposal.
Just my opinion( which will probably be rebuked by TUP's memebers).
~JS
Woldy who are these 3 people?
Voted for Moar TUP Propaganda
which 3 godboy
Not the counter proposal, but the order to vote yes without discussion.
u said woldy everything comes from 3 guys in the IRC
New Era is not your NE, Ireland should be !!!! (but I am not in congress anymore so I have no say)
of course u have a say even if u arent in congress
You can post in the forums, they are open to all. It'd be easier to tell you apart if your avatars were distinguishable, as it is you look like someone talking to himself.
It might be standard process to counter a NE but for the last two weeks King Hannibal of ASIA has tried to push 3 NE against Ireland.That isnt standard process
Good read.
Of course you are all welcome to an opinion, wigibob, but Ireland is not our Natural Enemy. There is no reason to undo the good work we have achieved because a few people on either side of the sea want a war. There are options already being discussed in Congress about a war, which Talon has repeatedly stated. I reckon Hannibal is just am Irish-hater.
No Danie they arent open to all. I have just been banned for commenting amongst others in a Ingame PM...an Ingame PM.
Anyway Haratio is right and the 25% of the eUk are morons...obviously they must be to vote NE or get bored with TUP and the forums. Produce all the articles you want but continue to lock off the game to other players because their faces dont fit and you will face the backlash of the people
Oh and TUP, two out of the last three non TUP CP's have faced impeachment calls from TUP members in the forums...TUP...democracy in action and putting the eUK first
my article will systematize all these ideas, I am on the right track to spot on ,.... again.
You aren't banned Dr Hugh, though you may be for accepting bad people into the UK. If you read the rules you'd see that you can't be banned for minor things like PMs, the forums are moderated fairly. I mentioned impeachment for the previous TUP CP as well over the Macedonian MPP issue, if someone mucks up people call for them to go no matter the party.
One of those CP goku pretended to be in logs to get him impeached you even admitted that you fell for it and was the reason you agreed to the impeachment vote.
you just happened to miss out every single one of the good points about New Era
hmm what a coincidence
New Era is not your NE
Getting worried TUP? We're catching up with you aren't we?
The title of your article is new era no plans, so the whole of the article is about how "bad" our plans are, that makes sense doesn't it, this article has just been thrown together to say that New Era is bad and TUP is good, New Era is the future party of this country
New Era is not your NE