New Era? New Low!
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by ePocalypse
So New Era just published their citizenship procedure 😕
As you can see, they wish to use citizenship as a recruitment tool. Whilst that's quite obviously immoral, it's nothing compared to the damage that can be done by this frankly dangerous policy.
PTO is a very real threat. If USA can be crippled by it, then it's very easy for the same to happen to us.
Now Goku Jones is a well known thief who has fought hard against eUK in the past, leaked sensitive information to our enemies and multi-accounted, so quite why people are willing to fall in line and follow his lead really is hard to understand. Is he now actually trying to destroy the country by encouraging our enemies to PTO and using New Era as a vehicle for this aim?
If you vote for New Era this term then you are effectively sponsoring the PTO of eUK and there is no way back from that.
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Hail TUP!
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Vote TUP for a safe Future! Vote TUP for Freedom and to avoid Corruption!
Voted.
I wouldn't vote TUP but that immigration policy is just stupid.
le sigh
I think most New Era guys are fairly sensible, but they've chosen a right nutter as their leader.
Nobody has more desire to harm the UK than Goku Jones. He's made a career out of PTOing countries, and people still trust him... crazy.
Agreed with not allowing citizenship to become a party recruitment matter
Disagreed for advertising TUP alone for supporting the new citizenship act when UKPP, ESO, UKRP, PCP and NE Congressmen (rather than their PP) support it as well
All hail TUP! \o/
I didn't mention the citizenship act Appleby 😒
This is simply about New Era's ridiculous citizenship policy.
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o7 v/s
It's just the TUP poster that was used in the anti-Hind campaign 😛
but I agree with the principle anyway, I'm prolly taking it to far XD
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Why is this "obviously immoral"? Don't IRL countries recruit real people? I expect you to boycott British actors and musicians based in the USA after this!
Why is this system more prone to PTO than UKPP's "we have no system" or TUP's "Iain Keers' favorite countries"?
It would be nice to have an adult discussion about the issues and not the usual flaming, trolling, bullying and exaggeration.
TUP have let in multies, foreign PTOers, domestic PTOers, given away 'day' passes and they've tried passing off returning players as "fresh new guys we're bringing thru the system".
TUP passing judgement on how CS passes are used is hypocritical in the extreme and their actions make their attempts at moralfagging hilarously irrelevant.
Can TUP explain their day pass system where Magic Hereos and other Polish Citizens get citizenship for one or two days then leave?
What are they up to?
Can't defend properly -> make accusations.
Making IRL comparisons for something like recruitment is foolish, we have no police force, disciplinary system or prison establishment in-game and therefore we are responsible for keeping things straight.
"New Era? New Low" agreed, this procedure is the embodiment of in-game corruption and the exact thing people didn't want Goku back for. "Changed man" yeah right. You just can't stop lying.
I can't and won't defend TUP but that is not the issue
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If we have made mistakes then they were exactly that: mistakes. It has never been policy to let enemies bribe their way into the UK to boost TUP numbers. A vote for NE is a vote for a foreign takeoever next month. Vote anyone else at all if you dislike TUP, what matters is keeping the UK safe.
>"If we have made mistakes then they were exactly that: mistakes. It has never been policy to let enemies bribe their way into the UK to boost TUP numbers...."
Just happy coincidences that allowed TUP to vent on first UKPP and now NE?
If TUP actually owned up to its mistakes and apologised/took their share then perhaps reasonable debate could take place.
But all it seems they are capable of doing is flinging muck, being hypocrites and not realising that the times they are a changing.
@Alfagrem: You like the Goku Jones immigration policy?
You dislike to have a national policy on immigration?
If so, just be with Goku Jones and be happy.
I dislike that no commitment is shown with governmental policy.
Play opposition, be partisan that is a choice.
To disrupt a system is easy, to repair it is difficult, changes should be for improvement.
Some like to disrupt, their choice, not mine.
i like how goku's immigration plan is seen as more of a PTO potential threat then the UKPP year long free open doors policy
@Niemand, the 'new' government policy is yet to come into effect... It wont get into full stride until near the end of the next congress term. Until then parties are rightfully taking there own safeguards with regards to citizenship's. UKPP has had the same citizenship policy for the past year. Yet here we are still free from international PTO.
Seeing as we are a nation that push new guys into congress, surely an easier way to PTO eUK would be to start a new account in our nation...
Fearmongering. Unsubstantiated elite trying to spread hateful messages against a hardworking eUKer who has done no harm since he has come back to the eUK. Goku has not caused any harm in the elife of most of us. These crimes were committed a year or two ago and only because TUP did similar stuff anyway. Give the bloke a chance!
This article is absolutely pathetic, compete on real policy, not mindless hypocritical attack of your oppenent.
At least the UKPP policy, while it is also completely stupid, has the advantage of being able to teach Congress members.
This policy is just selling to the highest bidder
This is sTUPid, I think it's clear that Goku's scheme was a PROPOSAL TO BE APPROVED. Again, it's respected as a freedom of speech and to be discussed, it's not necessarily nor compulsorily to be followed by any New Era , member. ( you can take a screenshot of this comment too).
He claims to represent New Era, how else are we supposed to take it?
It says all over my article that it's optional!
If it's optional, I'd like to see which of NE's congressmen sign up for it, so we can all see who the real idiots are.
Apart from Goku, who we all know is an idiot for proposing such an idiotic course of action, of course.
TUP PP labeling our policy of allowing players the freedom to choose and learn as stupid.
We long got used to claims from your side that we were brainwashing our new members to think a certain way. Seems TUP have indoctrinated in you the policy of 'rule by righteousness' much more effectivly then anything we were accused of trying.
You don't give soldiers guns without telling them how to use them. Same with citizenship - it can cause a lot of damage if used wrongly, be that on purpose or by accident. That is why we need to tell people how to do it. I wouldn't let anyone into the UK without checking with others first, and I've been here for 3 years - mistakes cannot be undone.
Bohemond4 (TUP PP) '.....advantage of being able to teach Congress members'
Daine Fox (TUP) 'You don't give soldiers guns without telling them how to use them. Same with citizenship'
Alfagrem (UKPP) 'our policy of allowing players the freedom to choose and learn'
Good to see TUP finally catching onto the benefits of UKPP citizenship policy.
Hardly, UKPP policy on citizenship is not to have a policy.
oh dear
"UKPP Congress members are free to decide on how they use their passes and are encouraged thought not required to seek guidance from any sources they deem appropriate prior to granting citizenship.
In the future the UKPP would like to see a reformed CS committee (in co-operation with other parties). The committee is to act as a counsel to the congress member and not as his judge."
Seems to have kept us PTO free for the past year Daine Fox.
Danie wouldn't recognise it as policy as its not handed down from on high.
Alfa obviously has no idea how we discuss our policies...
We had a conference where we debated our policies, collated our thoughts and brought out a manifesto!
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typical crap you expect from these people. hope my comments havent caused a pto. or that last comment. or that. or that.
scaremongering is that all you got tup? no wonder you lost top spot.
"Now Goku Jones is a... [*very bad man etc.]... so quite why people are willing to fall in line and follow his lead really is hard to understand."
Unfortunately Dan, This is the bit TUP really needs to understand
*edited for brevity.
>"We had a conference where we debated our policies, collated our thoughts and brought out a manifesto! "
A dozen of you got together on IRC (maybe in a special channel) and decided on some policies to represent the whole party...........sounds about the same.
Shame on TUP
End the TUP abuse of citizenship passes. Vote NEW ERA. http://prntscr.com/kk7wu
I attack one policy, a policy I consider to be detrimental to the eUK.
For the rest of it, meh, I disagree with it, ill say I disagree and point out why, but when it comes to our safety, I take a hardline stance,
and alfa: no, its been in the forum for weeks.