I'd like to talk to you about sex...
Candor
...tants, which are totally trippy machines, really. But I don't know much about them. So instead, read the following article.
I decided I wanted to share this AFA post in my media. I expect many of you will find at least something in what I say here to get mad about. But I don't want anyone to think I have anything to hide with regards to my thoughts, and the AFA in general, many of who's members I consider friends.
So rage if you must.
In the Party Presidential Nomination thread, I receive a nomination:
AFA Forums:
Quote from: gizmo501 on Today at 09:12:45 AM
"if Candor is willing to join the AFA I think he will make a fine PP."
Candor responds: (and yes, I always talk about myself in the second person)
I might sometime (join). And I'm making friends here whom I enjoy quite a bit. Everyone's an individual, and I judge everyone on their own merit.
I like Viarizi and think he'll make a fine Party President for you guys. He's active as heck and devoted to the AFA.
Some thoughts on the AFA though:
Being completely candid (pun intended, lol), the AFA atm plays the role of opposition party. And there's validity in that role. But there's also some problems:
1) Being against "elitists":
Not all old players are "elitists" of course, so you're using that term really to describe what RGR would call "Pfeifferists", or people within his sphere of influence. Being someone who judges others on their merits, I can't specifically agree with labeling any specific group ("elites" or "Pfeifferists") and then treating all as if they were one. I'd have to treat each as the individuals they are.
2) Opposition positions:
What does the AFA stand for, or against? You could use a few defining points, different from the other T5.
I know the AFA would like to see open borders, essentially. Is this correct? I agree that Congressmen are allowed to give citizenship to anyone they want, that's mechanically the rules within the game. BUT there's also validity in working with the other groups in the nation to screen people coming in, as best as is possible, with regards to the intentions of the applicant.
Certainly we'd prefer that people coming here want to play for this team. I think everyone would agree with that premise? So there's cause to work together, towards some reasonable organization of such citizenship allowances.
However, allowing each party to devise and determine it's own standards is also reasonable, imo, so long as each party is doing so within an agreed "mission statement". Something like "we'd prefer that people coming here want to play for this team and that each party agrees to screen towards that end".
So there's some middle ground on that issue, I believe.
On that topic, growing the nation through citizenships is generally, imo, a good thing. Very good. It's never been looked at in that way really, but I do indeed see bringing in new players as a serious positive.
3) Bonuses.
I agree with making every effort to restore 10/10. No debate with the AFA on that point.
4) RGR:
A lot of people detest RGR. He has a temper, and can get nasty when riled. I've been around about as long as RGR and watched most everything he's done. I'll say this: Half of what is said about him is false or greatly exagerated. But half is true. He can use filthy words when he gets pissed (as can many, many other players). And esspecially when talking with women players, this highly offends many, myself included.
Not that our women players are snow white virgins in this game either, as a rule. Some have equally filthy mouths.
RGR should be President eventually. Give him his month, he's worked harder for it than anyone I know. Equally imo, the nation wouldn't crumble to ashes were such a thing to occur.
But then, RGR needs to take a back seat in the AFA, because frankly he'll always make it a near impossibility for this party to get along with everyone else. With a less offensive leadership, the AFA has a bright future. With someone who offends so many daily, cooperation with everyone else will likely always be out of reach.
RGR and I are friends, we've always gotten along well as long as I've played, shared some great laughs. But I don't think even he would say he doesn't regret some things that have come out of his mouth. He knows he has a temper.
But he'd have to take a back seat eventually for this party to fully aclimate with the rest of the nation. That's my opinion.
I apologize for this being so long. I just thought it fair, since a member has nominated me (were I to join), to explain what my thoughts were with regards to the party in general.
You guys are huge and influential, and that alone causes the nation fear. But you can overcome that fear if, as a party, you choose to. And if, as a party, you one day choose to go that route, I would indeed be honored to count myself among you.
In the meantime, I'm honored to call so many of you friends, and enjoy my time spent serving to make your forums the best, and most civil, forums in the nation. And equally, to observe the democratic process you are using to elect your leadership, which mirrors that of every other large party in the nation nearly exactly, regardless of what others have said.
The more of your party that participates in that democracy, the better off you are. Keep it up, you guys all impress me, each and every one.
ADDITION: I think anyone who would like to be PP should throw themselves in the mix of names to consider. BUT I think that any of those same people who do so should equally agree that if they lose, they will spend the next month working hard for the party in some other role. Being PP is a job, a real job. If you think you have it in you to commit to that much time and work, take a month and prove it to your party.
"Mind the difference: American different than eAmerican. RL America was built up with Immigrants...RL nationalities have no business here"
~Dr. Luis Sentieiro in this article
Good thought for all of us to remember
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Comments
We The People - http://www.erepublik.com/en/party/we-the-people-19/1 - the loyal opposites
I approve of some ideas, others not. Unfortunately it seems I will be opposing you overall. Pretty much your statement that will receive the most hate is that RGR should someday become PotUS. Sure he worked for it, but does that mean he deserves it? When he said he will either get it or FORCE us to give it to him, I don't think he deserves it. He wants personal power, power he certainly hasn't deserved through his means to get it. There is a reason people dislike him, and while separate, there are also reasons he shouldn't get PotUS.
lol, weasel, you participate with the other three, so you are the same thing.
eUSA > WTP > Self
I believe my vision of the eUSA is better than Pfeiffer's.
RGR should be President eventually. Give him his month, he's worked harder for it than anyone
Yes, at cheating, multiing, getting banned, PTOing, name calling, more multis, banned again, stalking,being a complete asshat, bannings, multing multis, creating fake Political parties and total douche baggery.
Yeah, he sure has earned it alright.
I'm against multi's, if anyone knows of any multi's, let's get those reported as soon as possible.
Thanks for sharing that.
Candor, thanks for sharing. V&S. you have a home here in the AFA. Let the haters hate, let's keep building guys we are doing well.
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uncertain
To be honest, the game would be a lot more fun with more people thinking rationally. Voted
I agree with you that the AFA should become a legitimate party because they have many real Americans and foreigners that want to fight for eUSA. However, I don't feel that now is the time to give them legitimacy. The main problem that I have with them is RGR and his Serbian buddies. I don't think that anybody (except maybe RGR) will deny that a fair portion of the AFA is made up of Serbians and whatnot who want to destroy the eUSA. If some legitimate player becomes PP, completely changes the congress list to remove enemies, and stops letting RGR run for PotUS I would welcome them as a legitimate T5 Party.
Voted
Voted. Good work Candor
Never trust a reasonable man.
Never trust a reasonable man. X2 Damn straight.
RGR should be President eventually. Give him his month, he's worked harder for it than anyone I know
No one is entitled to anything as well as just because you work hard doesn't mean you deserve it.
Dahmer worked hard at kidnapping people, drugging them, sticking drills in their heads and, subsequently disassembling them and shoving their parts in vats of acid when his quest to be a God and create lobotimized sex slaves didn't work.
Doesn't mean he deserves to be a God.
Unreal.
You are either the best spy this game has ever seen or falling off your rocker at a ridiculously high speed.
I especially enjoyed the part where you neglect to mention his stalking, which is very real, and hint that the women he attacks verbally might deserve it, them having filthy mouths and all. Subtle. Let me know how you manage to keep your temper in check when your daughter or wife gets stalked and abused by this guy for awhile.
Candor, my dear old friend... I'm afraid you've gone 'round the bend.
I'm all for reporting stalking to the police. In Oregon, it's a crime. As is cyber stalking. I support the reporting of crimes of any kind to the appropriate legal authorities.
http://www.ncsl.org/issues-research/telecom/cyberstalking-and-cyberharassment-laws.aspx
The above link will take you to the laws applicable to your state. I encourage anyone who feels they have been stalked or harassed to pursue such avenues of protection and prosecution.
VS
Only people outside of the AFA thinks we are all Serbs or a great part of us are Serbs, I dont know how it was before I joined AFA but atm I can assure all of you this is not true and if we were bent on destoying America why would I have to answer so many PMs explaining why we dont have active battles for our members to work on their True Patriot medals (btw the 72 hour delay should end today), hell if they were all clones or Serbs they wouldnt care and show up only to vote...
Another thing is the Rogue Proposals, how many did you really see since September? I am not talking just about two weeks but three months of us trying to work along with Government just to be ignored, and ridicule in USA forums, my entire Congressional Team is "CENSORED" in USA Forum congressional procedings, and then you accuse us of not cooperating, every new CP was contacted and they just ignored us or did worse things, and really what harm could he do with those rogue proposals? The fact is Nothing except protest.
We are eAmericans in the AFA, we came to the eUSA as inmigrants as most of the RL Americans (btw Native Americans aside, ALL of RL Americans are inmigrants) looking for a new start or a chance to grow and help, instead what do we find here? A hostile enviroment that resembles old 1930s Europe with a Government that tells us we cant chose our Party and if we do go to a certain party then we will not get supplies and will be persecuted... Hmmmm where did I heard that before? Oh Nazi Germany thats right!
So AFA does not follow IES procedures, why should we? Our members are persecuted and our congressmen cant even access USA Forums to discuss congressional procedings, we cant even recruit inside USA because our members are ostracized from public life, WE ARE JUST REACTING TO A SITUATION MADE BY YOU AND YOUR PARANOID FEAR OF SERBIA
SPQR IN OUR MINDS
SPQR IN OUR HEARTS
NOW AND FOREVER
Candor
'...especially when talking with women players, this highly offends many, myself included.'
I agree with this statement, my problem with it is you have not included Henry Pfeiffer Arundel; who went on IRC and belittled, threatened and called a woman citizen a C**T...you say this about RGR (and I completely agree) but not one citizen has come out publicly and condemned 'Fluffer' for his actions...
'Not that our women players are snow white virgins in this game either, as a rule. Some have equally filthy mouths.'
Agree again, except IMO the women who have such filthy mouths are really men (and I use that term loosely hiding behind mommies skirts; I would guess that 50 % to 60% of woman Avatars are actually Richardless men.
Hampton H. Hampton
'Yes, at cheating, multiing, getting banned, PTOing, name calling, more multis, banned again, stalking,being a complete asshat, bannings, multing multis, creating fake Political parties and total douche baggery.'
And again I agree that RGR has done all of these things, problem is 'Fluffer has mulitied and encouraged others to so,PToed the USWP back in the day and many many 6th parties to make his hand picked candidate look good, goes on IRC and attacks women verbally, is a complete a** hat and has defined the term 'd****e bag'.
'Pheifferist (n) A citizen who publicly supports 'Fluffer' and his calling women filthy names and still say nothing, who allowed him to 'blackmail' his way into the White House and don't see that as cheating; anyone who supported and aided his PToing of 6th parties and then turns around and call others who do it 'traitors'; who support him even after he supported a 'foreign group' in obtaining 'Congressional Seats' and who had to be bribed to stop giving out rogue citizenship to our enemies.
Funny how when someone outside the 'Pfeifferist Cabal' does exactly the same things the 'Pfeifferist' have done they are not 'traitors' and 'Fluffer' is defended as a true American....
I agree that RGR has worked hard, but he has taken far to many shortcuts to be rewarded with that position. The fake accounts, the faked names to look like others, and total lack of respect he has shown for others, are not leadership qualities. He reminds me of a child that's well behaved until things don't go his way, then he throws a tantrum and insults. Even the tantrums and insults would be forgivable, but his cheating will never be rewarded with a vote from myself. That and he likes the color blue. I don't like blue, or kittens that fall apart when you kick them...
You tagged your article with your own name?
....never seen that done before....your name appears below the article title you know.
@Viarzi
(you being understood as AFA)
If you use PTO tactics, why are you surprised that people label you as a PTOer? You could have gotten supplies, you could have been recognized as a congressman, you could have gotten into the eUS without people disliking you. You have to realize that you chose this. If you choose to support and be a part of AFA, then you have to accept the result. Its like someone squandering their money blaming people he gave it to for stealing his money. Its a large part your choice, and your fault, how people see you.
Americans could join a real party, and have their voice welcomed. But if they choose instead to be a part of PTO tactics, they should realize that they will then have to be treated like PTOers. If AFA wanted full bonuses they just have to dissolve themselves, because we would have had it long ago, but they don't because they have other motives. You are they cause of that, but you can't realize that things are your fault, not some "elite's" fault. You say we are paranoid, but you can't realize we would have had bonuses long ago, people would have been able to get supplies and be congressmen, if they just didn't use PTO tactics. If you are going to use those tactics, why would you expect us not to treat you as a PTO? You didn't have to be labeled that, but it was your choice, and so your fault.
the lame arse (Ajay) just stole most of my rhetoric...stinking elitest and such and took any chance of a real oppisition away from the rest of us that are against his and the stinking elites crap!
Candor
Day 1,874, 18:24 " I'm against multi's, if anyone knows of any multi's, let's get those reported as soon as possible."
above comment is a lie...or you lied to me about this before...either way you are a liar...
in a game full of political theater this is easily the best post i have ever read. itis fair and mirrors most of my own thoughts on the mattter at hand. voted without question.
Anything but Ajay. If he wants to be eRepublik god, let him go start his own eRep, just like he starts his own Forums & IRC channels when he can't force others to give him control. He's generated more than enough garbage in this game. Ajay has a lower popularity than the Game Admin.
off the reservation
@fingergunsDay 1,875, 1😇6 off the reservation
"Off the reservation" is offensive to Native Americans. It was a derogatory term used to identify "Good Indians" from the "Bad" ones who had gone "off the reservation".
Excellent Informative Article; I appreciate your candor Candor. It is a welcome refresher to fluff articles which have little informative merit as you have taken the time to explain your reasoning alongside your reservations.
AFA, as with all parties will continue to evolve and develop as the political pulse surrounding it changes and adapts with the whims of the eCitizenry comprising our nation. Hopefully, in time members such as RGR realize their personal ambitions will only detract from the party they claim to serve.
In many Aspects; much of the same could be said of the USWP in regards to Henry.
Again an interesting article. I don't agree with it that much, but none the less looking at an issue from other angles never hurts.
You're such a suckup Candor. I've been in this game two weeks and I can tell that you have no backbone. Take a stance...jesus
i like how Candor subtly said that its ok to stalk women IRL if they use vulgar words in an online game
wow ... Candor smoking to much of himself and blowing smoke up rgr butt, watch out your going to get some blow back in the forum of a blue flame.
@Viarzi
Your comparison of eUSA to Nazi Germany is a bit backwards. In reality, the AFA is playing the role of an aspiring Nazi party, with a great representation of Hitler taking the lead role. The only difference is that instead of taking power, you are being stopped. If you feel that your immigration is legitimate and want to stop the whole persecution thing, well you have an option. Leave the party. You can't argue for your right to choose a party when the party you chose is the one directly involved in a PTO.
Leonard DiHankerson: "I've been in this game two weeks and I can tell that you have no backbone. Take a stance...jesus"
This is the most amusing post yet, thank you.
Tim Holtz: ""i like how Candor subtly said that its ok to stalk women IRL if they use vulgar words in an online game"
Read the comments. I DO NOT believe it's ok to stalk anyone, and I provide a link to find the applicable laws in your state wrt cyber stalking. Please report any such thing to the police immediately.
But you DO provide an example of the exaggeration of which I speak. If there's any cyber stalking, the police will take care of such things and they are the venue to pursue such allegations. It's not like AJ's RL identity is a secret, nor his address, nor his phone number. If he's a cyber stalker, turn his ass in and if true we'll never hear from him again. Guaranteed. It's a very serious crime.
@Viarzi "Another thing is the Rogue Proposals, how many did you really see since September?"
http://www.erepublik.com/en/main/law/USA/121258
http://www.erepublik.com/en/main/law/USA/121194
http://www.erepublik.com/en/main/law/USA/121152
http://www.erepublik.com/en/main/law/USA/121153
http://www.erepublik.com/en/main/law/USA/120866
http://www.erepublik.com/en/main/law/USA/119873
What's that...six? Need I go on?
http://www.erepublik.com/en/main/law/USA/119872
http://www.erepublik.com/en/main/law/USA/119844
You get the point.
AFA has yet to show they care about eUSA.
"AFA has yet to show they care about eUSA."
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@Ichabod
I could careless about pheiffer the fluffer and what he has done, I don't like him either. This story is about RGR and how he has "worked hard" cheating is not working hard and that was the point of my comment. I don't need a definition of the guy and his peoples since I don't give dump about any of them. RGR is flat out awful for the eUSA and the point of my comment was just that.
And if you are refering to me as a pheifferist, then we need to step outside and have a little chat, be sure your dental insurace is paid up first.
y so serious?
really though.
Unbelievable.
^ Agreed, Sham Wow is unbelievable
It IS quite a bargain, really.
Although seriously, if official parties have more congressmen, they could let in more than enough ATO voters to match the PTO voters let in by the AFA. This is assuming eUSA still has allies somewhere, so it may be worth questioning the wisdom of alienating all foreigners as the official policy.
😁^ That Candor guy has been saying that for three months. Ofc part of the problem now is not a whole lot of folks are banging at our doors with less than 10/10 bonuses.
But restore those, and watch the country grow...up...up...
Voted for the sex..tants.
nanato