Hypocrisy
Day 2,911, 17:03
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by ResouIa
To begin this story I will show you what prompted it. Recently TBSP nominated Wild Owl for CP. He was the candidate that most supported our main goal right now. That being: Lowering the taxes. In the article, I got a rather rude comment.
Not only was it misinformation but it was insulting. So naturally I had to reply.
She replied...
So anyway. That is what sparked this article. This very rude treatment of me and my friends using misinformation by a person that a few weeks ago was acting friendly enough around me. Through pretending that her subjective truth overruled the objective truth and using that to call out my party on MY article, she accused us of hypocrisy and then deemed we were "untrustworthy", all based on subjectivity. Well eUSA, the facts clearly show we are not hypocritical. We voted for the candidate that would spend less as to fill the reserves faster to accomplish our goal of getting the tax lowered. BUT, her party cannot say the same. Two can play her game, except I can AND WILL use facts. I'm about to show you how HER party is in fact the hypocrisy, not ours.
SFP for many months has notoriously backed the "lower taxes" campaign along with TBSP. In fact, not too recently they had a huge recruitment drive and political push based off that very goal.
This was the most recent statement by SFP to push for lower taxes:
[Vote] Lower Work Tax to 11%
http://eusaforums.com/forum/index.php/topic,37341.0.html
http://eusaforums.com/forum/index.php/topic,37341.0.html
Above you can view as 4 of these SFPers voted NO, 3 voted ABSTAIN, and 3 voted YES. For a party that apparently is trustworthy compared to us, Artela- For a party that apparently does not show hypocrisry compared to us, Artela- 70% of your voting members voted in a way that did not further their goals, in fact the votes of your party benefited the OPPOSITE of the goals that they laid forth. This is something you accused us of with no proof, and something I now present to you that YOUR party did with very direct proof.
Maybe you think that Jude, the most active recurring Party President of your party posting one article does not prove anything. Well, if you refuse to believe the words of one article. Maybe you'll understand that TWO surely shows that he did not just happen to be drunk, but actually pushed the goal of lower taxes.
In this article, your Party President at the time not just SUPPORTED lowering taxes, but actively RECRUITED for your party (yet again) with the following statement.
Yet not only did 70% of your congress members contradict your party's long-running (even RECENT) slogan, but your party nominated one of the most Pro High Tax CPs I have ever seen.
I'd like to point out that your CURRENT Party President ALSO ran on the promise of staying true to SFP's ideals, which has long been for a lower tax. A vote in which she abstained.
She further mentions being open to compromise, and when the biggest compromise that has ever come out of the anti-tax crowd turned into a vote, she showed no support. No truth to SFP's ideals and no compromise.
So tell me, who are the real hypocrites? Those who can be proved hypocrites? Or those who are simply called so with no evidence? Just petty resentment over how a party did not vote for your CP candidate.
Who are the hypocrites, Artela? Who is the one not worthy of "trust"?
When eUSA's BIGGEST Anti-Tax party votes against a lowering to a slightly above moderate tax rate. When their ex-PP even proposes to RAISE TAXES!?
[Discussion] Increase Taxes
http://eusaforums.com/forum/index.php/topic,37422.0.html
The Socialist Freedom Party everyone. Where accusations are flung filled with misinformation. Where one thing is said and another thing is done. Where the party ideals they recruit with are the exact opposite of the policies they follow.
I love almost every last one of their members. And I loved working with their party when I was Party President. They are my friends. I never thought I'd be the one to call this party out on their inconsistencies. But if well-known and highly-representative member of their party begins to attack me and my party with misinformation, when their own party is in fact the ones guilty of every accusation made, I plan on making a point.
Thanks for reading. I hope eUSA can start to make a lot more sense after today.
JOIN TBSP IF YOU WANT TO SEE TAXES LOWERED
And don't let my response to the distasteful actions of ONE of their members turn you away.
CHECK OUT SFP TOO. THEY'RE GOOD PEOPLE.
Resoula, signing out. Down with hypocrisy.
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Join the Feds! The realest mofo's out here.
I like the Feds. They seem to have no party line from what I can tell. In my opinion, The Feds is the most varied party in terms of political opinions in eUSA.
Thanks Fam!
amp doesn't have a party line :<
Honestly, respect for this article and consistency. I disagree with you on several things but you'd always be 100% welcome in the Feds, good luck with everything.
*Popcorn* This amuses me greatly.
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100th Sub!
Also, as you did well to point out not all SFPers are like that. We're pretty diverse, and that's a really cool thing about the Party.
That said, I warned people this would happen eventually if we reneged on the tax thing. You've got my word that I'll continue to push the SFP toward lower taxes, for what that's worth.
Love SFP. I'd consider it my second home is how many friends I have in your party. Kinda didn't want to write this article. But someone had to point out the inconsistencies.
Good luck in your fight. Keep SFP great o7.
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You're right, it did need to be said. Gotta call a spade a spade, I'm afraid 😛
I stand with you. Diversity means Strength.
Dis gon' git gud.
You are correct in identifying me as a "high tax" president.
But ONLY until we have a decent reserve. Then I support low tax.
I respect this.
Resoula, but respecting this means after any battle (like that only one we had last month against FYROM) might drain the budget and so prolong taxes for two more months in high quotes!!
i am really surprised with all i am reading here today!!
I'm not sure how respecting an opinion means all of that... really, it doesn't. Logically it couldn't unless I said specifically that it did.
I thought you were the "high" Texas president.
I really need new glasses...
who decides what a decent reserve is?
/me picks the mic up off the floor
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SFP does not have a goal of lowering taxes. We support in-game socialism, which involves a wealth redistribution from the rich to the poor. We support raising taxes when doing so aids the "poor" of the game, the young players. We do not support raising taxes when doing so aids the "wealthy" of the game, the older players. Now, we sometimes disagree as individuals who the spending is aiding, which explains our lack agreement recently on the tax debate.
When we used the tax debate as a recruitment tool, we pretty much all agreed that we did not like where the spending was going. Now, more of us like where the spending is going. It is not that our ideals have changed. It is not that we lied. (We did, as you may remember, fight against higher taxes for a month or so after that.) It is that some of us see a positive change in the spending habits of the gov and want it to continue.
We are, after all, socialists. We are not tea partiers.
Actually, and I quote Jude, "SFP does not have a party line." So no, you don't support in-game socialism, you don't officially support anything, unless you'd like to debate that Jude was lying. Or that you somehow changed that within the past two weeks or so.
"We do not support raising taxes when doing so aids the "wealthy" of the game," Then why vote to against lower taxes when the the only change in the budget has been an increase in DoCA funding, which was almost entirely for FeMU, a project that only aids the "wealthy" of the game financially.
Your party's leadership shows too many contradictions. You have never been socialists as the anti-party-line stance prohibits it. You are independents. And recently, nothing you are saying is matching your actions.
I will, as J.A. Lake said, call a spade a spade. This is how it is.
There is a HUGE difference between having a party line and have ideals. Having ideals means that we happen to share the same goals and theories of the best method of governance. Having a party line means that we actively push our Congressmen/women to vote a particular way in accordance with a single application of those ideals.
We have ideals. Our party program affirmed what we alluded to in our original Constitution. http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/sfp-party-program-2547015/1/20 . We do not have a party line. I will not coerce the Congressmen/women based on my opinion of the best application of those ideals.
I don't believe that I as an individual have made my opinion known as to raising taxes at the moment. I cannot speak for Jude or any other SFP member as to how they applied their ideals to come to a conclusion. Personally, I am not for raising taxes. I'm not for lowering them, either.
As a note, though, while the budget for DoCA is only being expanded to accommodate for FeMU, its spending will greatly increase for other programs, as well.
And, as for FeMU, I think that it is a great program to generate activity for younger and older players alike, and I have no problem with gov funding for it. I do think that its funding should be about half of its current levels, though. I think that it would be just as good at generating activity with half the rewards.
Disagreeing sometimes does not make us independents. We still lean a particular way ideologically as a whole. Disagreeing on applications of that ideology does not make that ideology any less shared.
There is also a huge difference between having ideals as a party, and having ideals as individuals in a party.
And we have ideals as a party. See the party program.
This seems to conflict with the no party line statement. But even so, it says "Give tax money back to the community." as a point. So if this program represented official ideals (Which having no party line represents according to the definition of a party line) then the contradiction remains.
Which having no party line prevents*
"...FeMU, a project that only aids the "wealthy" of the game financially"
waitwaitwaitwaitwaitWAIT
How does FeMU aid the "wealthy"?
No yui i won't post my response here. You pinged me on IRC before I read this so my answer remains on IRC. 😛
I believe that I have already addressed the difference between party ideology and a party line. If you see them as the same, then so be it. It doesn't change that we have a clearly laid out party ideology. I see them as clearly different and have explained that difference.
As for FeMU, as well as any other policy, we can agree on a ideology and not agree on an application of it, as I've stated.
I do see them as one in the same. The party line is the policy/policies officially adopted by the party. This does not necessarily mean that you have to vote or act that way. I assume thats also what you mean by "ideals", is it not?
NO. Party ideals/ideologies= goals. We can agree on these goals without agreeing on the means to get to those goals, the policy.
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So a Smear campaign this was super wise on your part.
smear campaign: a plan to discredit a public figure by making false or dubious accusations.
Please, with all the proof with sources I have provided, show me what is "false" or "dubious".
lol BB if you're going to do the disgraced CP route, take some tips from Tenshi and I and be more amusing and maybe have fewer ulterior motives in your comments.
Or we could watch Benny!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9I4nZx8UCs
You wernt around for the Sarcasm part of this statement on IRC. But thanks love!
Sarcasm? People are not sarcastic on erep! Next you will be telling me there is drama here also. Preposterous!
OK, if you kids don't settle down I'm never gonna give you king size Snickers and 2 liter MtDew's again!
Glorious.
well I am prepared for WO's less spending!
but very informative article. i do wish it would have had a more positive tone, but oh well i learned i like the BSP even more,
Apologies. I get told often that I "type mean". I'm not very good at setting tones without the usage of emoticons 😛.
😁 Like that
Haha, glorious. Voted and endorsed
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absolutely tasteless.
I only see WO and/ or Gnil and alikes, even Kemal, not just having a blast of laughter on account of the both SFP and BSP but also the winners!!
What?
when i say tasteless i do not mean your writing but what is happening between these two parties!
personally i was really hoping the two would get closer and finally put into action the contents of their looooonggg discussions of things that were bothering their members.
i could name quite a lot of that, but obviously its pointless!!
*yawn*
Work Tax. The most overrated discussion in this game EVAR. Why is this worth anyone's breath anymore?