How Hard Should We Spank Colombia?
Jack Flufferton
First and foremost, screw Mexico. If you're a Mexican citizen and oppose this garbage, step up and make your voice heard.
We all know PEACE likes to justify their invasions with BS rhetoric about exacting revenge on the big guys that picked on the little guys. Should we give them more ammunition to attack us later by marching through Colombian-held Mexican regions and occupying Colombia? Should we get us summa dat cheap eYey?
Yummy!
The magnitude and duration of PEACE's invasion into the US was wildly disproportionate to the misdeeds we had committed - French Toast, Portugal Thunder, Taco Bell and FER operations. Mexico and France were the only two countries we made a dent in, and our occupation didn't last long. We didn't stay in France for long (not by our choice, of course), so the damage was done quickly, allowing them to rebuild almost immediately.
In case you don't remember, we didn't invade Portugal in January to take Azores - it was for economic stimulation. Way back then we didn't have war games and hadn't fought since French Toast a month earlier, and the populace's collective wellness was dwindling. We had to attack someone to get our wellness up and sell some guns, so we attacked. Take note that our attack stopped then and there. I do not regret this battle in the least bit.
Operation Taco Bell was carried out because we were bored as hell and wanted to get some high iron in Brazil. Can't defend this one too much, but it was fun for a few days. The attack on Far Eastern Russia (then Far Eastern Region) was an attempt to divert damage from the Indonesian attack on Western Siberia, although we did pour a lot of gold into trying to take the high diamond region. Again, the attacks stopped there.
But what about those wonderful Colombian women?
I have already heard the tots on the IRC clamoring for us to invade and crush original Colombian territories for this. I understand this knee-jerk reaction, but why? What the hell do we have to gain from that? We'll just end up pissing off more people and potentially cause more destruction on our home soil in the future. They don't have any high resource regions we don't have - they've got oil, wood and grain, like us - we have virtually no economic reason for invading them, as Colombia isn't developed well enough for us to deprive PEACE of their exports.
The non-aggression pact between the US and Mexico clearly states that we are to maintain amicable relations with Mexico. We tried, they went all Benedict Arnold on our asses - much like the UK did. However, that contract has more holes in it than Amadou Diallo, which was quite possibly by design for conundrums just like this. really don't think the admins can decide either way, so I think we should proceed to beat the hell out of Colombia in Mexico and let the admins sort it out. Sure, we'd could lose 1k gold, but in the grand scheme, that isn't too bad to beat the living piss out of Colombia. However, we need to stop at the Colombian-Mexican border.
Now, that may sound like like revenge, but keeping another PEACE puppet at bay is just a matter of national security. Important point there, PEACE puppet. They are likely being forced by PEACE to block us from attacking, but that means they aren't 100% to blame (note: this is pure speculation based empirically on months of playing).
Sure, we've gotten stronger now and would stomp Colombia 1v1, but we don't know what the geopolitical landscape will look like after the new economic module, where the map will be redrawn with respect to raw materials - amongst other things - and as a result, alliances and borders will be redrawn, but our memories will not fade. Pissed off people will want revenge, but someone has to grow the eff up and break the cycle.
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You cannot spank Columbia.
What could happen?
1. Columbia could pass the US regions it has taken to Mexico
2. Columbia would give back the Nortwest of Mexico to Mexico and would block the USA from getting to Columbia.
Zoli, you're missing the spirit of the article, which is ultimately not to pushing the hell out of them. The logistics don't matter right now because the conflict just started.
@Zoli - Ah, but you forget...we would only lose a thousand gold. Sure, its a lot...but I know many people would be absolutely fine with attacking eMexico to get our regions back (in point 1)...probably far less to get further revenge other than just defeating Columbia where they originally invaded so they'd probably just be satisfied with the region swapping keeping them away.
TVZ
Mexico cannot take US regions based on the NAP. But the USA cannot conquer regions from Mexico, so Columbia is on the safe side here 🙂
We learned a lot during Operation Taco Bell.
We learned it was stupid to start it.
Americans have learned a lot in the last two months.
One thing that should have been learned by our opponents, is it's not smart to start a war with a country you can't beat.
Good luck with that.
Congratulations on New Mexico, btw, I think that's going to work really well for you guys.
With great respect,
Jon Barack Bluejacket
Oh, and by the way, a big hug and kiss for Zoli!!!
My absolute favorite Hungarian! It's so good to see you back from the ban. The "time" you had to put in with Paris Hilton must have been interminable.
Very respectfully,
Your good friend,
JBB
I couldn't agree more. These dupes have been duped into being punching bags and, uh, dupes, we should have mercy on them. Kick the puppeteer not the puppet. But then also only within reason.
Lets spank them very hard.
Holy fishcakes! Zoli! *orgasms* I was starting to into withdrawals form his propaganda ways. 8D
Since the contract never mentions conditions whereby a third party (in this case, Colombia) TAKES CONTROL of a signatory party's "original territory," and thereby is granted access to attack US soil, can we still be bound by the terms of this contract? Can we not 'liberate' the original Mexican territory (at least on our border) from the third party occupiers, and then return said territory to Mexico via land-swap?
This would seem to uphold the intent of the treaty, whose purpose was to secure our mutual borders. It must be assumed that this was meant to include and prevent actions taken by allies on either side...
"What could happen?
1. Columbia could pass the US regions it has taken to Mexico
2. Columbia would give back the Nortwest of Mexico to Mexico and would block the USA from getting to Columbia."
Mexico would be required to give back any "original territory" of ours. That much should still be enforced by the treaty. Should Colombia land-swap with Mexico their Northwest territory, Colombia would not be in a position to continue to attack the US, and we could gain the initiative in our fight against Russia.
Your own argument defeats itself.
All the more reason not to lust for revenge, Jeffrey, which is the whole point.
I completely agree. I'd like to get to a point where the US and Mexico are at least neutral to each other, if not allies. I'm pretty sure that they don't (at least the government/president).
Hey O Holy One, how are you feeling about an eWhite House run next month?
Just beat the hell out of Colombia in Mexico and let the admins sort it out.
It is a basic principle that all contracts are made in good will and legalese has no power over this principle.
It is under the same principle (that of good will and common sense over legalese) that every player is prohibited of using not yet discovered exploits that would give them an unfair advantage in the mechanics of the game.
And keep the mexico occupied until they give back compensation for the war effort and the misuse of the treaty.
I would love to spank some Colombian women.
Me too Rusty...me too.
@Corey:
There's about a zero percent chance of that. I'm too lazy for anything with 1/10 the responsibility.
@Jack
All you would need to do is appoint like a hundred advisors and what-not to do your bidding.
We can not do anything to Columbia past our own borders due to the treaty. But like wise, contrary to the propaganda or rather sheer ignorance of Zoli, neither can Mexico. If Columbia gives the territories it took to Mexico, Mexico must give them back to the eUS and pay for the resistance war to give them back. Here is the NAP with eMexico and eUS. http://www.erepublik.com/en/forum/topic/116666/non-agression-pact-between-mexico-and-the-united-states/1" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/forum/topic/[..]tes/1
The Great Ape must have Miss Colombia!!
So basically in the end we'll end up with our states that Colombia took over, +NW Mexico if Colombia doesn't give it back to Mexico, right?
Or could we not since its original territory of Mexico? Would they be able to start a resistance war?
I'm still learning the ropes 😛.
@rusty shacklefor😛 you know, i think they have an app on myspace/facebook for spanking columbian women