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Confusion part 2

Day 2,286, 02:50 Published in Belgium Belgium by boer jan

Think it is clear by now that eBelgium is divided, not only in two but in 4 parts

- First: the part I will call the anti PTO and has the power at the moment.
- Second the part of eBelgiens who are RL belgiens or are eBe citizens who see this country as theirs but don't agree with the idea's of the first group.
- Third the PTO group, some say many some think few, who want power and money.
- And last but not least the group of citizens who think something is wrong but do not really understand what is right and what is wrong.

Now I hear more and more about a referendum among citizens.
Trouble is that the biggest part of citizens can be find in the last group, so they can not really be sure what to vote.

So, by this I want to the first two groups to explain why we must be occupied or why we must be free, think that there is no need to ask the PTO's why they want to conquer the country:)

Most easy is that first the current power (gov and friends) makes a clear statement with pro's and contras in an article.
then the second group can makes one too (it will take time to organise this cause even if they want the same free country history has made that they aren't always on the same line).
After that I am prepared to talk with both about the different arguments and making a résumé on neutral bases, only when both approves I publish it.
After that we can see If there is need for a referendum or not and in the meantime it makes a good première for the next elections
This way the people can make their own idea about all this without quarrels and lies.
All I ask is that it stays civilized

boer jan

Wegens gebrek aan tijd deze maal geen Nederlandse versie, sorry
Due manque de temps pas de traduction Français cette fois désolé



BaraBum Day 2,286, 02:58

There is no confusion at all, we know very well who is who and what they are doing.

Still I'll give you vote.

boer jan
boer jan Day 2,286, 03:06

you make part of group 2 but there a lot of players who really do not know who to believe or why and they vote also

BaraBum Day 2,286, 03:10

Het is niet moeilijk maar gemakkelijk; om alles te begrijpen.

JdlF Day 2,286, 03:46

Invitation accepted. An article will come out for Part 2.

boer jan
boer jan Day 2,286, 04:14

please try to work together with the others so that everyone's view of that group is represented , I do not want an extra division created 😉

JdlF Day 2,286, 04:39

I'll ask few representatives but it will remain my own view of the problem.

shadowukcs Day 2,286, 04:14


And tbf, there is no PTO group. What is there to PTO for? Money? Sorry, MQ and NLSP already ran off with all of that. Sell our regions to Poland? No need to PTO for that. Our government is already doing that.

I fail to see that, even if there is a PTO as the forum elite claim, what the goals of these PTO'ers would be?

boer jan
boer jan Day 2,286, 04:22

At least there are some players who openly told before they were PTO, so I assume that there are always such elements in every country, if we should be afraid of them is, I think,is one of the biggest arguments who will be used in the explanations I ask above.
Let's just clear it out so everybody can have his own idea without being forced to believe what others want we take for granted

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Thorin II Oakenshield
Thorin II Oakenshield Day 2,286, 05:02

We don't have congress, territories, national army, any funds or programs. Maybe we are already PTOed?

RDRDM Day 2,286, 06:36

Looks like a good initiative for openness and clarity. Good luck. 🙂

NLSP Day 2,286, 07:36

I like this article more than I liked your previous one ^^

However, there are way more groups in the eBe-community. I know a few people that could be put in a fifth group and people that are mixed between groups.
There have been a tendency in eBe to divide everything with 'label A' or 'not label A'. This is already done for a very long time. I'm pleased to see that you have come up with 4 different labels, but I personally would say this is still a simplification.

I do applaud your idea to come to some fair, transparent and honest communication. This is important and I hope that with better communication, eBe can become a better nation 🙂

Chihiroh Day 2,286, 09:11

I also really don't get why people want to divide eBe in groups. That's just the best way to polarize everything and make a problem out of thin air. (Same for RL Belgium btw)

e Vladimir
e Vladimir Day 2,286, 10:10

This may work... who knows.

BelgiumGeneral Day 2,286, 12:33

I'm one of the second part but I agree that eBe is in a bad situation

Antoine Cerise
Antoine Cerise Day 2,287, 00:04

I'm from group 4 and I thank you for this demand 😉

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